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NY/Philly-style Water Ice?

franksnbeans Sep 27, 2007 11:00 AM

Been in Boston 15 yrs, but I'm a Philly guy. I make my own soft pretzels and cheesesteaks and roast pork, etc. to satisfy those cravings, but has anyone found a local place for good WATER ICE? I'm not talking "slushies," I'm talking real NY/Philly-style Italian ice.

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    tdaaa RE: franksnbeans Sep 27, 2007 01:03 PM

    Unfortunately, no. And it doesn't travel well either. For those of you who have not experienced "water-ice" (or thought all ice was made of water), it is essentially a granita that is served in paper cups with extra artificial food coloring. Nothing like frozen fruit juice (or chocolate) on a hot day, and the startling color of the tongue for hours later just makes people jealous.

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      litchick RE: tdaaa Sep 28, 2007 09:13 AM

      Is this not the same, essentially, as a sno-cone? We used to get these on the streets of Chicago when I was growing up, but haven't seen it here.

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        tdaaa RE: litchick Sep 28, 2007 09:48 AM

        Snow cones are shaved ice with flavor poured on top. Water ice is water and flavoring frozen together, but not allowed to solidify into a block - kept granular with a small amount of residual liquid.

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          litchick RE: tdaaa Sep 28, 2007 02:02 PM

          Ah, this makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.
          (Wierd name though, right?)

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            tdaaa RE: litchick Oct 2, 2007 10:22 AM

            Yeah - kind of redundant. As mentioned below, generally served with a long handled spoon-straw implement - can spoon up chunks and keep up with the melting liquid in the bottom.

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            Guilty Glutton RE: tdaaa Jul 7, 2008 06:35 AM

            There's another difference between a snow cone and water ice. A snow cone is flavored with syrup, but high-quality water ice has small, diced cherries, pineapple, or other fruit blended into the ice.

            The best water ice I ever had was Diane's Italian Water Ice in Voorhees, NJ on Evesham Road. I usually get the vanilla chip, with real chocolate chips and vanilla bean, or the cherry flavor, with juicy diced cherries.

            I would give up all the ice cream and gelati in the world for their water ice -- a New Jersey summer in a cup.

      2. itaunas RE: franksnbeans Sep 27, 2007 01:19 PM

        There are places that do non-shaved Italian Ice, but not certain enough its the right variety. Polcari's in the North End has a machine running outside the shop during the summer, where you serve yourself (from a pre-made barrel) and pay inside. Richie's on Rt 16 in Everett (better right at the takeout window where they have lots of flavors) is called slush around here, but it is frozen in a machine. Other places I think resell (spadafora's in Malden). A bit more upscale Cafe Paradiso used to do granitas, but I think they stopped that several years ago.

        1. Chris VR RE: franksnbeans Sep 27, 2007 05:07 PM

          The only place I've had it in Boston was (of all places) on the room service menu at Brigham & Women's Hospital. I'd presume they are sourcing it locally, but I have no clue from where.

          1. trufflehound RE: franksnbeans Sep 27, 2007 05:09 PM

            There is a guy in Jamaica Plain who shaves ice off a block and adds the syrup. I've seen him on Center st., but I understand he has a regular spot somewhere. The Speed's of ice.

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              Velda Mae RE: franksnbeans Sep 28, 2007 08:11 AM

              I used to live in Philly so know exactly what you're talking about. Polcari's in the North End is the closest in consistency to water ice but they only sell lemon. Richie's slush is everywhere but if you go to the place on Rte. 16 in Everett, you'll get the best flavor selection and consistency. They serve it with the same straws as you get in Philly.

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                franksnbeans RE: Velda Mae Oct 2, 2007 08:39 AM

                "...only sell lemon" isn't necessarily a minus, just old school. Purists like my old man would argue the only two flavors are lemon and cherry.

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