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PLEASE! A decent pancake mix?? [Moved from Home Cooking board]

Aunt Jemima Instant Buttermilk Mix is awful. Any suggestions? I think I have the cooking technique down. But the batter is lousy.

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    1. re: tobycat

      Ditto, and use the ultimate recipe where you add baking powder and a little sugar. Use buttermilk instead of the lemon and regular milk if you have it. Makes awesome fluffy pancakes. Always let the batter sit in fridge for abut 1/2 hour before use. Crisco on the griddle also makes the outer edges crispy. Sorry, ditto to the post below as well. :) Just made them for dinner last night.

    2. 1. Baker's Mills (Salt Lake City) has a killer mix - it's called Kodiak Cakes Frontier Flapjack and Waffle Mix. Kodiakcakes.com. Ingredient list easy to understand - whole wheat and oat flours, non-fat dry milk and honey, leavening, egg whites and salt. This stuff tastes great. Just add water. Nutty taste.

      2. Arrowhead Mills. arrowheadmills.com. Great stuff.

      3. Bob's Red MIll. bobsredmill.com. Also.

      4. King Arthur Flour has super! mixes for scones. I haven't tried their pancake mix but if it's close to the scone mix, it's likely to be a winner. kingarthurflour.com.

      Everything should be available in national supermarkets, specialty stores (WF), or online.

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      1. re: jcr1

        I worked next to a newspaper food section, and the consensus there seemed to be
        Krusteaz. Haven't tried it myself.

        1. re: mpalmer6c

          Krusteaz's Mixes rock, but I don't know how far east their distribution ranges-

          1. re: bbqboy

            I think I bough a (huge) bag of Krusteaz's at Costco (in CT). Pretty good and easy to make.

            1. re: bbqboy

              We can get big bags of Krusteaz in the Morelia, Mexico Costco. I haven't tried it, because pancakes sound and smell SO good but are incredibly boring after a few bites. At least, IMO.

              1. re: Anonimo

                We get Krusteaz here in Ocean City, NJ. I have also gotten it at the kids house in Gilbert, AZ. The blueberry is excelent

            2. re: mpalmer6c

              Krusteaz is definitely the best. One tip: substitute fruit juice -- any kind -- for water in the mix.

              1. re: mpalmer6c

                Krusteaz is the best because it's fool proof. You can just add water and do it by sight according to your preference for how thick you like them. They always mix up light, without lumps, either way, and they cook perfectly. It's easy to screw up the other mixes and get verying results, but not with Krusteaz.

                1. re: sugartoof

                  Krusyraz is like eating cookies- it's gotta be at least 2/3 sugar.

                  LOL- I just read your login name, sugartoof- and I rest my case!

                  They're tasty for sure, my sugar-addict in-laws swear by it, but I always feel more like I skipped a meal and just had dessert. Not that satisfying for me- except as dessert.

                  1. re: EWSflash

                    but you cut down on the amount of syrup you put on them that way.

                    1. re: EWSflash

                      I'm not put off by the sweetness, obviously, but the appeal is the mix makes perfect pancakes. Not lumpy, not too cakey, light without turning crepey....just good, for something out of a box.

                2. re: jcr1

                  Second the Kodiak Cakes. I bought I box a few months ago and was very pleasantly surprised at how good they are given how healthy the ingredients are. Plus I love that all you have to add is water.

                  1. re: jcr1

                    King Arthur's mix is my absolute favorite. The pancakes it produces are amazingly tender, with a hint of maple flavor in the batter. I've tried many scratch recipes (I'm not typically a mix person) but these remain my favorite pancakes.

                  2. I think it is called Stonehouse Kitchen from Maine. A touch of malt and delicious.

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                    1. re: mgebs

                      I second this vote. The name is Stonewall Kitchen however.

                      I keep a few cans on hand so we can make them at a moments notice. Waffle recipe on the side is great too.

                      1. re: MSK

                        Stonewall Pancake/Waffle mix is perfect! They offer berry and gingerbread, but I've added berries, bananas and nuts to the plain with great sucess. Malty with lemon notes, fluffy yet toothsome. Pricier than some, but worth it...

                        1. re: Bunnyfood

                          I ruined a waffle iron once by adding blueberries to the batter. Ever since, I'm leery of adding extra stuff to the mix.

                      2. re: mgebs

                        I love the malt smell of the Stonehouse mix. It runs about $9/canister in Seattle but it's worth it. Even on mornings I don't eat pancakes, I love to open the lid to the mix and inhale. Mmm...

                      3. I haven't used it for pancakes but we love the Carbon's malted waffle mix and it can be used to also make pancakes.

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                        1. re: ziggylu

                          What ziggylu said - 100%. So there.

                          1. re: yayadave

                            Count me in as another fan if I am using a mix, love that malt flavor. I also like to make yeast raised pancakes and waffles. The batter sits over night and develops a nice tang.

                            1. re: Candy

                              I love the Carbon's Golden Malted Waffle and Pancake mix. Super easy and a real crowd pleaser. Mix comes in an easy to store tin. They also have a Pumpkin Malted waffle and pancake mix which is delicious especially in the fall/winter. I purchase Carbon's at Cost Plus World Market.

                              1. re: foodseek

                                I get it at Cost Plus also...was buying it at Williams Sonoma for $10/tin so was very happy to find it at Cost Plus. Haven't seen the Pumpkin version though...my husband would love that. Need to find some! Cost Plus also?

                                1. re: ziggylu

                                  Yes, the pumpkin version was available at Cost Plus. It may be a seasonal item, though. Golden's pumpkin malted mix makes a terrific pancake and waffle-I served it with a warmed maple/boubon syrup for holiday breakfast and the aroma wafting through the kitchen set the mood for the whole day.

                          2. re: ziggylu

                            I was wondering if malt, for example, was one of the ingredients in mixes that is often missing from scratch recipes.


                            1. re: paulj

                              I think you're right. Carbon's also has corn meal. Maybe it's corn flour, because the mix is smooth, not grainy.

                              1. re: paulj

                                yes, it is. It is in the huge sacks of p'cake mix that restauants use. Malted wheat or barley flour.

                            2. My absolute fave pancakes (even over homemade) is Bisquick Ultimate. Regular Bisquick mix, but use the alternate recipe on the box, in addition to milk & egg, it calls for baking powder, sugar and lemon juice. Wonderful!

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                              1. re: JaneRI

                                I agree. Bisquick, despite being a mainstream product, makes very good pancakes, much better than any pancake-specific mix I've ever tried, including the little "boutique-y" one's, which, IMHO, taste like sawdust.

                                I use the lowfat Bisquick (white box), and haven't noticed it giving up anything to the regular (yellow box). One nice mod...use buttermilk instead of plain milk if you have it.

                                1. re: ChefBoyAreMe

                                  Ohhhh, good call on the buttermilk - I'm going to try that!

                                  1. re: ChefBoyAreMe

                                    Doesn't Bisquick contain buttermilk powder? I use my own buttermilk and had to give up on Bisquick for that reason, and use Jiffy instead.

                                2. What don't you like about this mix? What are you aiming for?

                                  For those who like specific mixes, is there something about them that you can't duplicate from scratch?


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                                  1. re: paulj

                                    Not sure how to answer that Paul - I like Bisquick AND it's super-easy....why would it be worth my time to futz w/homemade recipes to TRY to duplicate it?

                                    1. re: JaneRI

                                      Because it is likely to be a) cheaper b) less processed and c) tastier, if made from scratch?
                                      I make pancakes for my family virtually every weekend, and it takes no more than 3 minutes to assemble the batter, using ingredients that I always have on hand and which can be used for other things (salt, butter, flour, baking soda, eggs buttermilk). The recipe is from Marion Cunningham's The Breakfast Book.

                                      1. re: curranthound

                                        I love that cookbook - but I have had many different homemade recipes and the Bisquick Ultimate are my all time favorites - pancakes aren't exactly healthfood no matter how they're made, so why on earth would I forego my favorites?

                                        1. re: curranthound

                                          I always used the Jou of Cooking's recipes for pancakes, and mine're not very good- Bisquick's a lot lighter than my homemade leadcakes.

                                          1. re: curranthound

                                            Curranthound, this is an old posting, but I would love you pancake recipe, I'm not into boxed mixes either! But a great from scratch pancake recipe is always welcome...

                                            1. re: heylids

                                              Buttermilk Pancake Mix
                                              Mix for 24 pancakes


                                              • 3 cups all-purpose flour
                                              • 4 Tablespoons dry buttermilk
                                              • 1 Tablespoon sugar
                                              • ¾ teaspoon baking soda
                                              • 1½ teaspoons baking powder
                                              • 1½ teaspoons kosher salt

                                              Method: Pancake Mix

                                              1. Combine all of the ingredients in a lidded container.
                                              2. Shake to mix.
                                              3. Use the mix within 3 months.

                                              1. re: speyerer

                                                What liquid and how much do you add? And do you need an egg?

                                                1. re: viperlush

                                                  Buttermilk Pancakes
                                                  Yield: 8 3” pancakes


                                                  • 1 cup Buttermilk Pancake Mix
                                                  • 2 Tablespoons butter, melted
                                                  • 1 cup water
                                                  • 1 egg
                                                  • - non-stick cooking spray


                                                  1. Heat a black cast iron griddle to 350° F.
                                                  2. Heat oven to 200° F.
                                                  3. In heated oven melt butter in glass cup.
                                                  4. Add one cup water to melted butter
                                                  5. Whisk together the egg with the melted butter and water.
                                                  6. Put one cup of pancake mix in a large mixing bowl.
                                                  7. Pour the liquid ingredients on top of the pancake mix.
                                                  8. Using a whisk, mix the batter just enough to bring it together.
                                                  9. Don't try to work all the lumps out.
                                                  10. Check to see that the griddle is hot by placing a few drops of water onto to the griddle.
                                                  11. The griddle is ready if the water dances across the surface.
                                                  12. Spray the griddle with non-stick spray.
                                                  13. Wipe off thoroughly with a paper towel. (No spray should be visible.)
                                                  14. Gently ladle the pancake batter onto the griddle.
                                                  15. When bubbles begin to set around the edges of the pancake and the griddle-side of the cake is golden, gently flip the pancakes.
                                                  16. Continue to cook 2 to 3 minutes or until the pancake is set.
                                                  17. Serve immediately or remove to a towel-lined baking sheet and cover with a towel.
                                                  18. Hold in a warm place for 20 to 30 minutes.

                                      2. Stonewall Kitchen
                                        Morse Farm (small maple syrup producer in Vermont)

                                        1. Surprisingly Aunt jemima's WHOLE WHEAT pancake mix is really quite good. Also, Cook's Illustrated did a piece on how to make the perfect pancakes. Do not over mix the batter... stir until just combined. Med high heat, 1/4 cup of mix in a greased pan. Wait for the bubbles and flip. They went on to explain why some only brown in spots, etc. I forget all the details but it was an interesting read.

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                                          1. re: lynnlato

                                            I agree about the Aunt J WW, lynnlato. I usually make them with frozen blueberries dropped on the pancake before the first turn. I also mix a 1/4 cup of toasted wheat germ into the mix for extra nutrition.

                                            1. re: lynnlato

                                              I agree with the Whole Wheat version too! Most of the time, I do make homemade pancakes and waffles, but I like to have the whole wheat mix on hand for rush mornings (like before school). It's so much better than any formulation of "white" pancakes I'd tried.

                                              1. Another vote for Kodiak Cakes. They're great for waffles OR pancakes. And they're so healthy, too. I make them with seltzer instead of water -- soooo easy and delicious!

                                                1. Trader Joe's buttermilk pancake mix is quite good. We've been making blueberry pancakes lately. With Trader Joe's grade B syrup.

                                                  1. Polly's Pancake Parlor packages and sells their own online! There is none better.


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                                                    1. re: Jill Brazil

                                                      Love my Bisquick! I use it for all kinds of baking goodness! I especially love to top my chicken pies with it- makes the best crust going... so simple...

                                                    2. Better than any I've tried including TJ's and Bisquick...Snoqualmie Falls Pancake & Waffle Mix...In the Northwest, you can find this mix that only needs water in most supermarkets. It makes a thin delicate cake that is very flavorful, not doughy or dry. online order at:

                                                      1. Krusteaz's takes my vote, I cook over med heat... w/butter rubbed on the pan then wiped off w/a paper towl, pour the batter then sprinkle w/fresh berries turn over.....etc.... and plate with real butter and real warm maple syrup...YUM!

                                                        1. I like Highland Sugarworks when I'm too lazy to make my own.. I think I've seen it at Whole Foods, and might also have found it in smaller grocery stores on the East coast.

                                                          1. A friend of mine has me ship Krusteaz to her in Oklahoma from Oregon. I personally use either the Fred Meyer or Winco in house brand that uses only water. Both mixes make great fluffy pancakes. There are a couple of cookbooks out there on pancakes alone but I like the ease of add water and pour myself.

                                                            1. http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recip...

                                                              Great pancakes. I've never made them from pre-mix though.


                                                              1. Believe it or not, the best pancake mix is right there in upstate New York! New Hope Mills Buttermilk Pancake Mix. It's made by New Hope Mills, Inc. in Moravia, N.Y. Can't be beat, period.

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                                                                1. re: TriPod

                                                                  Krusteaz rocks. I've tried fancy schmancy ones, and I think its even better than what I've tried at Williams Sonoma.

                                                                2. Krusteaz....made with buttermilk, a little cinnamon, ginger and brown sugar added to the batter. Sit for a half an hour. Yep, good stuff.

                                                                  1. I love King Arthur's baking mix, but I also make sourdough and buttermilk pancakes.

                                                                    Alton Brown has a great pancake mix than can be modified into a very respectable waffle mix, if you don't want to make yeast waffles.


                                                                    1. I use the Southaven Farm baking mixes -- http://www.southavenfarm.com/products.... You can only get them online but so totally worth it. I love them for muffins but the Ginger Spice and the Multi-grain mixes make awesome pancakes and waffles. Healthy and delicious, a pretty unusual combination for pancakes.

                                                                      1. I made low carb pancakes tonight using New Hope Mills pancake mix.

                                                                        Very light and fluffy pancake. I also saute some sliced pears in agave syrup, cinnamon and other apple pie spices -- and poured over the pancakes. Not bad for a low carb treat.

                                                                          1. re: Mother of four

                                                                            I've tried this recipe a few times (even have the episode on my Tivo to watch the techniques, like the ladle, the dancing water drops, the electric grill, etc) and it's just not that good.

                                                                            1. re: NAtiveNewYorker

                                                                              I like the multigrain mix from Trader Joe's.
                                                                              But yesterday my daughter made a batch of our own (that is from Alton Brown's recipe), haven't tried it though yet.

                                                                              6cups all-purpose flour
                                                                              1.5 tsp baking soda
                                                                              3tsp baking powder
                                                                              1tbs kosher salt
                                                                              2tbs sugar

                                                                              will keep for 3 months, but check expiration dates on ingredients!

                                                                            2. re: Mother of four

                                                                              Agree with NativeNewYorker - I made the Alton Brown mix and tried it this morning. The pancakes were flat and dense, without much flavor.

                                                                            3. I much prefer wholegrain mixes to white-flour mixes, partly because they're less likely to be gluey. Currently using two mixes from Bob's Red Mill (available in health food stores). I do believe, as some have mentioned, the mixes from small mills are likely to be good. Lately I'm much more often doing waffles than pancakes, BTW.

                                                                              Never have mastered buckwheat when making my own pancakes. Wonder if there's a good mix out there.

                                                                              Oh, and here's a hint for waffle irons. They are the best use ever discovered for cooking spray! They always want to stick to the upper grid, but the spray prevents that.

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                                                                              1. re: comestible

                                                                                For buckwheat pancakes -- try Polly's Pancake Parlor

                                                                                You can order their mix online.

                                                                                1. re: Jill Brazil

                                                                                  Jill, thanks for this. You are bringing back memories...stopped at Polly's some 35 years ago while on a bicycling trip through New England. They were legendary even then. (Also getting good ideas for gifts from their site.)

                                                                                  1. re: comestible

                                                                                    You're welcome! Yes -- we had a hiking day in the White Mountains and stopped at Polly's for lunch. A truly unforgettable experience. Unless you've been there -- you wouldn't understand! They truly have the best pancakes and best atmosphere in the world to eat pancakes!

                                                                              2. Definitely Krusteaz. I use it all the time and it's simple and delicious!

                                                                                1. Tyler Florence's Ultimate had a wonderful pancake batter recipe about 2-3 weeks ago. It had ricotta cheese and flour and looked yummy. I kept my TIVO of the show in the hopes to be able to make them soon... worth trying to find on foodnetwork.com

                                                                                  1. A few years ago, my Aunt (who lives in the midwest) gave me a canister of "Cooper's Best Pancake Mix" from a company in Nebraska. It is the best pancake mix I've ever tasted. I have no idea what their secret ingredient is, and am astonished that they aren't in "gourmet" stores--they are that good! My Aunt graciously keeps me well supplied, but I'm sure you can order them online.

                                                                                    1. PLEASE! A decent pancake mix?? Why not mix your own?

                                                                                      Buttermilk Pancakes

                                                                                      Ingredients: Buttermilk Pancake Mix

                                                                                      • 3 cups all-purpose flour
                                                                                      • 4 Tablespoons dry buttermilk
                                                                                      • 1 Tablespoon sugar
                                                                                      • ¾ teaspoon baking soda
                                                                                      • 1½ teaspoons baking powder
                                                                                      • 1½ teaspoons kosher salt

                                                                                      Directions: Pancake Mix

                                                                                      1. Combine all of the ingredients in a lidded container.
                                                                                      2. Shake to mix.
                                                                                      3. Use the mix within 3 months.

                                                                                      Yield: 8 3” pancakes

                                                                                      Ingredients: Pancakes

                                                                                      • 1 cup “buttermilk” pancake mix, recipe above
                                                                                      • 2 Tablespoons butter, melted
                                                                                      • 1 cup water
                                                                                      • 1 egg
                                                                                      • - non-stick spray, for greasing the pan

                                                                                      Directions: Pancakes

                                                                                      1. Heat a black cast iron griddle to 350 degrees F. Heat oven to 200 degrees F.
                                                                                      2. Melt butter in glass cup.
                                                                                      3. Add one cup water to melted butter
                                                                                      4. Whisk together the egg with the melted butter and water.
                                                                                      5. Put one cup of the “buttermilk” pancake mixture in a large mixing bowl.
                                                                                      6. Pour the liquid ingredients on top of the pancake mix.
                                                                                      4. Using a whisk, mix the batter just enough to bring it together. Don't try to work all the lumps out.
                                                                                      5. Check to see that the griddle is hot by placing a few drops of water onto to the griddle. The griddle is ready if the water dances across the surface.
                                                                                      6. Spray the griddle with non-stick spray. Wipe off thoroughly with a paper towel. (No spray should be visible.)
                                                                                      7. Gently ladle the pancake batter onto the griddle.
                                                                                      8. When bubbles begin to set around the edges of the pancake and the griddle-side of the cake is golden, gently flip the pancakes.
                                                                                      9. Continue to cook 2 to 3 minutes or until the pancake is set.
                                                                                      10. Serve immediately or remove to a towel-lined baking sheet and cover with a towel.
                                                                                      11. Hold in a warm place for 20 to 30 minutes.

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                                                                                      1. re: speyerer

                                                                                        it must come as a shock to you, but not only do i not have buttermilk on hand, it is not stocked in the market closest to me. baking powder and baking soda go flat after about 4 months, especially if we have been having high humidity.

                                                                                        sure, home made are great, but there is certainly nothing wrong with using a mix.

                                                                                        1. re: KaimukiMan

                                                                                          It must come as a shock to you, but even you can make pretend buttermilk, add 1¾ Tablespoons of cream of tartar to a cup of milk, or add a tablespoon of lemon juice or white vinegar to a cup of milk and let it stand for 5 to 10 minutes. You can also just use plain yogurt or sour cream instead of buttermilk.

                                                                                          1. re: KaimukiMan

                                                                                            Since the recipe calls for "4 Tablespoons dry buttermilk" this may be of help to you:
                                                                                            "I happened to run across your posting, and just happen to be the public relations director for Saco Foods who makes the Buttermilk Blend. Our Buttermilk Blend is sold through Amazon.com, who will ship to Hawaii from what I understand, plus sometimes people can find this in the dry milk section of Safeway stores, as a few of them on the Islands get from their warehouse in California. Hope that helps! Amy Verheyden, Saco Foods."

                                                                                            1. re: speyerer

                                                                                              thanks for the input speyerer. ill keep my eye opened.

                                                                                        2. My son and I love Classique Fare Pecan or Apple mixes.
                                                                                          You can go to there website, print their order form and send it out snail mail.
                                                                                          Here's the address --- http://www.modernfearn.com/index_file...
                                                                                          Their stuff is great.

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                                                                                          1. re: chefstu

                                                                                            Another vote for Krusteaz. Milk, water, it's good with both.

                                                                                            Don't forget the chopped chocolate and peanut butter chips.

                                                                                            Or the chopped Violet Crumble.


                                                                                          2. Pamlea's gluten-free pancake mix is pretty good -- and not just for gluten-intolerant people. I think it's a lot better than Aunt Jemima, Bisquik, Hungry Jack, etc. (although I haven't tried those in a long time). I believe Pamela's has some ground almonds in it that gives it a nice richness.

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                                                                                            1. re: Miss Needle

                                                                                              I grew up on Bisquick and Krusteaz and EWWWW. I wholeheartedly vote for homemade buttermilk pancakes any day.

                                                                                              That said, I just doctored the TJ's mix with watered down kefir, a splash of rice vinegar, a teaspoon of agave syrup and a splash of vanilla for the liquid. Upping the acids and adding a touch of sweet in most mixes makes a huge difference. If I'm stuck with a mix, I usually throw in whatever cultured dairy I have in the fridge. Sour cream, yogurt, kefir, whatever, diluted with water a bit they all help with flavor and texture.

                                                                                              1. re: Miss Needle

                                                                                                I also think that Pamela's baking/pancake mix makes excellent pancakes. You're spot on about the ground almonds adding a lovely richness. They are also come out very tender. I suppose this is true because there's no chance of developing gluten as you stir the batter. If you didn't know they were gluten free, you'd never suspect it.

                                                                                              2. Williams-Sonoma Malted Pancake and Waffle Mix is a great traditional mix.

                                                                                                I'd like to know how their Dutch Baby mix is too...

                                                                                                1. Just use the rule of one and you may never go back to a mix.

                                                                                                  One egg, one cup milk (or buttermilk), one cup flour, one pinch salt, one tbsp sugar, one tsp baking powder (also one tsp baking soda if you use buttermilk), one tbsp melted butter.

                                                                                                  If you want fluffier pancakes, use more baking powder. If you use buttermilk, you may find the need to add more than one cup to thin the batter out. If you want buckwheat or wholewheat, just use that type of flour.

                                                                                                  In any event, I use this every weekend and it is a ton cheaper than a mix and better. And once you realize that you don't have to dig out a recipe, its just as easy.

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                                                                                                  1. re: Phil W

                                                                                                    I use a recipe almost exactly like this, my local market stocks half pints of butter milk. Simple and easy.

                                                                                                    I do keep Krusteaz wheat mix around for a backup.

                                                                                                  2. I was totally serious about the Batter Blaster! (First post was deleted...?)
                                                                                                    It is a real thing, you can get it at Whole Paycheck, and it's actually pretty good.
                                                                                                    Now I'm just waiting for them to come out with a buckwheat version...

                                                                                                    1. Why not make your own "instant" mix? You spend a little time making a big batch of the mix, which saves you the time later. You can even mix together the wet ingredients the night before- just keep the bowl in the fridge.

                                                                                                      I like Alton Brown's recipe:


                                                                                                      1. hi all,
                                                                                                        any thoughts on the healthiest pancake mix-in either pre packaged or make ur own mix

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                                                                                                        1. re: divya

                                                                                                          Try something from Bob's Red Mill. I love most of their products!

                                                                                                          Dixie Diner is also a good option

                                                                                                        2. blessed be this thread! i just picked up a package of bob's red mill buttermilk pancake and waffle mix at the store. even money says my pancakes turn out twice as good next time (i was trying to make them from scratch previously)

                                                                                                          1. A very enthusiastic endorsement for the Kodiak cakes. Great flavor, and if you're out of eggs and milk, no problem. Also a thumbs up for Trader Joe's Multigrain. On the other end of the spectrum, thumbs way down for Stonewall Kitchens. I first discovered their products at a tasting at an upscale country store, and loved their Roasted Garlic&Onion Jam, which became a staple in my fridge. So I bought a bunch of their other preserves/jams/sauces and was disappointed in all of them. There was lots of sugar and pectin, not much fruit. No comparison to Trader Joe's/Hero/Trappist, etc. The lemon curd would have been good if not rancid. Mailed it back to them and received a jar from a different rancid lot. Last week I won a raffle basket containing Stonewall Kitchens Buttermilk Pancake Mix. I happened to look at the directions and ingredients. You had to add eggs, oil, and BUTTERMILK. No powdered buttermilk in the canister. I gave it away before leaving the event. By this reasoning, Aunt Jemima, et. al., could all label their mixes "buttermilk".

                                                                                                            I once made pancakes for a friend who was recovering from a near-lethal GI infection, and couldn't have fat or dairy. Using Bisquick, I added egg-white and diluted applesauce instead of milk. They were delicious and tender and thereafter I usually added applesauce to pancake batter. Before that, I used to have trouble with pancakes not rising enough, and being rather tough. Then I learned that the trick is to let the batter sit for at least 15-20 minutes before cooking. It will bubble a little and that's fine.

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                                                                                                            1. re: greygarious

                                                                                                              Kodiak Cakes is now in most Target stores, and is aiming to be in all of them by June. They have other products now, too, but I have only had the plain whole wheat flapjacks. All you add is water, and I love them. I have also found that they are okay many months past their best by date, if the package is unopened. Once I open one, it goes into a glass jar in the refrigerator.

                                                                                                            2. For me, it is just as fast to whip up homemade pancakes as it is to use a mix. Nothing tastes better then homemade in my book.

                                                                                                              1. I second the poster who said Cooper's Best from Nebraska. I was raised on that and now buy it for my family. It is so good.

                                                                                                                  1. Coyote brand is what we usually use up here in Calgary for our Stampede breakfasts. It's the best. Not sure if it is available south of the border.

                                                                                                                    1. http://www.frankensteinmills.com/
                                                                                                                      Aretha Frankenstein's pancake mix from Chattanooga, TN. We give it as Christmas gifts with New England maple syrup. You can make a little at a time or mix up the whole box in a milk jug and keep it over the weekend for lots of guests.

                                                                                                                      1. Might be a stretch, but my dad just yesterday was saying he LOVES the pancake mix from a place in Jacksonville, OR, the Gary West tasting room. I'm sure you could order online. It's a whole wheat mix. They also have AMAZING beef jerky.

                                                                                                                        1. Bruce's Sweet Potato Pancake Mix is delicious and more nutritious than most mixes. I like to give a bag as a host/ess gift to spread the love.

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                                                                                                                          1. re: marthasway

                                                                                                                            PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me there is a place in Seattle or in Vancouver BC where I can buy Bruce's! The shipping on their website (and on Amazon to Canada) is absurd. I brought back some of this stuff from my last trip to New Orleans and I can't wait to get more!!!

                                                                                                                          2. Morinaga! refer to my posting in the General Discussions called "Pancakes or Crackcakes?"

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                                                                                                                            1. re: tokoyoko

                                                                                                                              Good morning tokoyoko, from Sherman Oaks, California. Not knowing which part of our little planet you reside, I am sending you some advance thanx from the greater Los Angeles area. I am a 99.9% "from scratch" type of fellow in everything that I cook. That being said, reading your amazement of the Morinaga mix grabbed my attention, but big time! This morning I had planned to leave the valley area of Los Angeles for a fun stroll in the beach community of Santa Monica and Venice....now because of you, on my way back home, I'm going to stop by one of the Japanese markets on Sawtelle Blvd., to pick up a box of that mix! Those pancakes are going to be a fun obsession to ponder, until they fill our plates---and tummies.

                                                                                                                              Cheers and thanks again for your post,

                                                                                                                                1. re: yayadave

                                                                                                                                  Hey Yayadave,

                                                                                                                                  BIG thanx. I just got home from a fun day by the water---with my box of pancake mix! As soon as I can figure out how much 100CC of milk is in ounces, I'm good to go! One egg, one packet of mix (2 packets in one box), and the aforementioned amount of milk. Maybe within the link that you sent, I'll be able to learn about the "mystery" technique of putting a hot pan onto a wet towel, before making the pancakes...I hope so. Thanx again for your post.


                                                                                                                                    1. re: yayadave

                                                                                                                                      Wow, this is one stop shopping! So cool of you to share the conversion site. Heck I already feel like calling you "yaya" as a nickname as opposed to your formal name of "yayadave"---have a great weekend and thanx muchly.


                                                                                                                              1. Pioneer Buttermilk Baking Mix used with buttermilk, melted butter, and vanilla.
                                                                                                                                So light and rich!

                                                                                                                                1. Mulit Grain Waffle and Pancake complete mix. I just discovered a one step, add water only mix that is every bit as good as made from scratch. I found it on amazon.com while I was shopping for a cookbook. This mix is made by Heartland Food Products and it turns out they make mixes for some of the finest hotels and restauants around. You have probably had one of their vanilla malt mixes at a great establishment. Enjoy!

                                                                                                                                  1. Just found out that Heartland's Waffle Mixes are going to be displayed on the today show this Thursdah. Hampton Inn has started serving Heartland's Waffles and they are doing a promotion from Central Park.. Enjoy! You can find them at amazon.com.

                                                                                                                                    1. OK. People's "best pancake mix" opinion is subjective. My son likes them sweet and my husband likes them dry. My parents like them CHEWY. I know. Anyway, the best pancakes are made from scratch. I've tried Krusteaz. If you grew up with them or like sweet pancakes they may be for you. When I was looking for the best waffle recipe, I found that the best waffles were made from a mix that I purchased online. Delicious. If you want something easy, do a search online as to whether there is a mix that hotels and restaurants use to make their pancakes with. Most of them do not make pancakes from scratch.

                                                                                                                                      1. Am I the only one who uses oil? I also add an egg, and use milk instead of water.

                                                                                                                                        The secret to pancakes is to not mix it too much, just enough to combine.

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                                                                                                                                        1. re: GraydonCarter

                                                                                                                                          I regularly use oil in my pancakes. A chocolate pancake recipe from Jose Andres (Spanish chef) uses stronger tasting olive oil (and chopped chocolate).

                                                                                                                                        2. Ooh! Sturdiwheat, made in MN. Available in a number of states and via mail order.


                                                                                                                                          So good that when I brought out a sample from the store to my homemade-pancakes-only husband in the grocery store parking lot, he made me go back in and buy a package.

                                                                                                                                          1. Krusteaz and cheap beer for the liquid.

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                                                                                                                                            1. re: dcrf

                                                                                                                                              Beer -- It's Not Just for Breakfast Anymore

                                                                                                                                              Beer Pancakes with Beer Syrup
                                                                                                                                              (4 servings)

                                                                                                                                              Ingredients Batter:

                                                                                                                                              1 3/4 cups All-purpose flour
                                                                                                                                              1 1/2 teaspoons Baking powder
                                                                                                                                              1/2 teaspoon Baking soda
                                                                                                                                              1/2 teaspoon Salt
                                                                                                                                              1 Egg
                                                                                                                                              3 Tablespoons Oil
                                                                                                                                              1 Tablespoon Molasses
                                                                                                                                              1 Bottled beer

                                                                                                                                              Batter Method:

                                                                                                                                              1. Mix all-purpose flour, baking powder, baking soda and salt
                                                                                                                                              2. Beat egg with oil and molasses.
                                                                                                                                              3. Add to dry ingredients along with beer.
                                                                                                                                              3. Stir lightly, just until blended.

                                                                                                                                              Note: Batter with be slightly lumpy and somewhat thick.

                                                                                                                                              4. Using about 2 Tablespoons batter for each pancake, spoon batter onto hot and very lightly greased griddle.
                                                                                                                                              5. Spread with back of spoon to 3 1/2 to 4 inches in diameter. Cook until browned turning once.

                                                                                                                                              Ingredients Beer Syrup:

                                                                                                                                              1 cup Packed brown sugar
                                                                                                                                              1/2 cup Beer
                                                                                                                                              1 Tablespoon Butter (optional)

                                                                                                                                              Syrup Method:

                                                                                                                                              1. Combine sugar, beer and butter in saucepan.
                                                                                                                                              2. Boil for minutes.
                                                                                                                                              3. Serve over pancakes

                                                                                                                                              Yield: 1 cup

                                                                                                                                              1. re: dcrf

                                                                                                                                                What does beer do for the taste? I guess this would be hard to describe, but do you taste beer, or hoppy bitterness, or what?

                                                                                                                                                If there is no real difference in taste, why do it? Other than for the carbonation?

                                                                                                                                                1. re: GraydonCarter

                                                                                                                                                  Not much beer taste.Its the carbonation.Fluffy and lite.Hand full of huckleberries your in like flynn!

                                                                                                                                              2. TJ's Multigrain pancake mix is very good. I add buttermilk instead of milk and drop on blueberries when cakes are cooking. Mmmmmm

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                                                                                                                                                1. re: shaebones

                                                                                                                                                  That's my favorite mix. I like to sprinkle in some cinnamon, wheat germ, and a dash of vanilla. Sometimes ground pecans. Their Buttermilk mix is also pretty good.

                                                                                                                                                2. I think the very best mix is from the Kerbey Lane Cafe in Austin, TX. They are known for their pancakes and now, thankfully, sell a mix! You can get it at Central Market (in TX) or online. It's pricey, but it's so good!

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                                                                                                                                                  1. re: jnb336

                                                                                                                                                    Best and easiest is the New York Times Cookbook by Craig Clairborne, No need to put up with empty sweet tasting nothings..Use multigrain flour, blueberries or whateverIt is the best!!!

                                                                                                                                                  2. Get Michael Ruhlman's Ratio cookbook & use the recipe in there. It's the best one I've found especially if you use buttermilk.

                                                                                                                                                    1. No one has satisfactorily answered the question "why not make homemade?" I think one poster mentioned shelf-life of baking powder/soda but I would assume that most home cooks have this stuff on hand anyway.

                                                                                                                                                      Also, as others have pointed out, you don't need to make the mix every time. Just mix the five or so dry ingredients and add the wet when you're making, a la Alton Brown's recipe.

                                                                                                                                                      I'm not trying to be a food snob at all but I cannot think of a reason to not make homemade when there are five ingredients or less. Bisquick Shake n Pour is $2.50 for 12 pancakes. I would imagine that a few cups of flour and small amounts of other pantry staples totaling $2.50 would yield a lot more than 12 pancakes.

                                                                                                                                                      Salad dressing is another one. I cannot imagine paying $5 for an item I can make at home with as little as two ingredients and I am the only person amongst my friends/family that makes their own dressing. I can't wrap my brain around it so I thought maybe someone here could help me out.

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                                                                                                                                                      1. re: ribeye621

                                                                                                                                                        I previously posted a recipe for pancake mix as well as a recipe for buttermilk pancakes using the mix that I use at home. So you are not alone.

                                                                                                                                                      2. Going to second (third, fourth?) the TRADER JOE”S BUTTERMILK PANCAKE MIX. All you need to add is eggs. The real eggs I think make it taste better then any other “just add water” mix. I have written it up here: http://traderjoesrants.wordpress.com/...

                                                                                                                                                        1. First of all I love pancake. But I can't stand dry or gummy one. The best box pancake mix I have found thus far is.... drumroll.... Krusteaz. You can buy a regular sized box for family/home use. Or if you are doing a pancake breakfast or some huge event, you can purchase large bags from Sams Club. Enjoy.

                                                                                                                                                          p.s. - Dennys in Cleveland Ohio finally has a decent pancake.

                                                                                                                                                          1. I've yet to have a mix that comes anywhere near homemade. And it takes no time to mix it up.

                                                                                                                                                            1. I don't know whether it is still available but Cracker Barrel restaurants used to sell their house brand in their stores and it was very good. Does anyone have current information about this?

                                                                                                                                                              1. If anyone else posted the same recipe, I apologize. I have not yet read all of the responses to this thread.

                                                                                                                                                                We have made pancakes using this recipe for several years. It is much better than Bisquik.


                                                                                                                                                                1. Over the past few months, I've bought a box of every pancake mix on the shelves to find if there was one I would really, really like more than the others.

                                                                                                                                                                  The winner was a complete surprise, and won by a wide margin: Mrs. Butterworth's Buttermilk Complete Pancake and Waffle Mix.

                                                                                                                                                                  Mrs. B's is about $2 for a 32 oz. box at the local stores here.

                                                                                                                                                                  I couldn't believe how many of the other mixes were simply slightly adulterated Bisquick imitations, or didn't even have a speck of egg in them. I've dropped my life-long Krusteaz habit for good.

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                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: RelishPDX

                                                                                                                                                                    What makes it different or special?

                                                                                                                                                                    These days I make pancakes from scratch using a simple formula:
                                                                                                                                                                    1 1/2 - 2 c flour (usually mixed white and whole grains, rye, barley, oat, nuts, etc)
                                                                                                                                                                    2 eggs (soaked ground flax also works)
                                                                                                                                                                    2 t bp
                                                                                                                                                                    1/2 t salt
                                                                                                                                                                    sugar to taste
                                                                                                                                                                    good splash of oil or melted butter
                                                                                                                                                                    enough buttermilk and water to get the right consistency (do I want thin or thick)
                                                                                                                                                                    other additions depending on what's available (cooked grains, squash, sweetpotato, etc).

                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: paulj

                                                                                                                                                                      Mrs. B's is very light without that all-purpose biscuit mix heaviness to it. They fluff up beautifully as they begin to bubble, get a nice brown color to both sides, and just taste deeeelicious.

                                                                                                                                                                      I made a stack of 'em tonight for dinner along with three strips of thick bacon, just for thinking about them earlier.

                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: paulj

                                                                                                                                                                        I pre-mix dry ingredients from the Martha Stewart recipe, and when I make a batch I add the wet ingredients (buttermilk, egg, vanilla and butter) as needed.

                                                                                                                                                                    2. For those interested in a whole-grain mix, I have just tried the Arrowhead Mills brand mix and so far I like it. It has more "graininess," if you will, than Bob's Red Mill, which is extremely finely ground. I've been making the waffle recipe, as I haven't a good pan for pancakes right now. I do prefer some coarseness, some evident fiber, in the texture.

                                                                                                                                                                      I have a box of Trader Joe's Multigrain Mix waiting in the wings, and I'll let you know how it compares.

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                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: comestible

                                                                                                                                                                        Hands down best pancakes we've ever had from a mix are King Arthur's Gluten Free.


                                                                                                                                                                        Pamela's is a close second.. in fact, we thought Pamela's was the best we'd ever tasted before we found KA.


                                                                                                                                                                      2. Tried Krusteaze from Costco and nobody liked it, mealy taste, pushed their plates away. Tried several other brands and the tastiest is Betty Crocker buttermilk mix. The kids begged for more !!