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Best Organic Produce - Farmers Market in Miami area

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MIAfromSFO Sep 20, 2007 06:37 PM

I'm from Northern California and live in Miami now. I've been a little grossed out with the produce at Wild Oats, Whole Foods, Homestead farmer Coops and even Epicure - so I did some research and found a fabulous outdoor organic produce market!

Sunday's only. Best to get there at opening time 9am but is open all day.

Beside the most amazing selections of exotic and unusual fruits and vegetables (yellow watermelon, mamey, watermelon radish) there is an amazing variety of mushrooms, many varieties of fresh picked lettuce, AMAZING and I mean the most AMAZING heirloom tomatoes you've ever seen and are to die for - really.

It's called Josh's Organic Garden. They are located at the end of Hollywood Boulevard at the beach on the boardwalk on the SE corner of the big hotel there. You are on the ocean and it's basically on the boardwalk. Can't miss it. It is SO worth the time to find it. There is EVERYTHING you need and it's the freshest and most beautiful produce you will find in ALL of Forida.

An excellent Thai restaurant a building south of the market. Try it if you go later in the day.

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    Sobe RE: MIAfromSFO Sep 20, 2007 08:38 PM

    Yes, Josh's is solid. The Thai place is called SushiThai on the Beach and it is so so but it is right on the beach
    http://www.chowhound.com/topics/433386

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      Sobe RE: Sobe Oct 18, 2007 05:57 PM

      I just realized that i didn't link the article regarding Josh's. Here it is. http://www.rawfoods.com/articles/holl...

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      mialebven RE: MIAfromSFO Sep 20, 2007 09:59 PM

      How does it compare with Glaser Farm's Farmers Market? Or the one in Pinecrest? I haven't been to either. Is there nothing comparable in Miami-Dade?

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        Mega RE: mialebven Sep 21, 2007 05:58 AM

        And how does Josh's compare with the Pompano or Las Olas farmers markets once they get rolling in the fall?
        Does anyone know if the local South Florida CSAs also sell excess produce at any local farmers markets?

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          lax2mia RE: mialebven Sep 21, 2007 06:39 AM

          The Glaser Farm's one blows unless you buy prepared foods. It's basically an outdoor Wild Oats. Most of the produce is not local and they don't even bother taking them out of the boxes they're from. I'm sure some stuff is local, but it's difficult to tell. I just find it hilarious seeing all these Groveites walking around and buying produce out of boxes at prices at or above the Fresh Market down the street.

          The Pinecrest market is a little better. They actually have local produce and, in answer to Mega's question, I believe the people that put on the CSA for Miami have a booth there. There's is the most expensive, but most unique stuff.

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            Miami Danny RE: lax2mia Sep 22, 2007 08:33 AM

            What you have to understand is that this is not the season yet. Glaser farms has organic whatever-is-in-season. If you go to a farmer's market expecting nothing but local produce, I'm afraid you have to wait until the season, which for the most part, starts later this winter. Right now you're gonna get a LOT of mangos. And would you feel better if they changed the boxes? Should they pretend the apples are grown nearby? I find it is a more pleasant experience to shop at an outdoor market, but you have to be realistic at this time of year. And the CSA doesn't even start delivering until January, although you can join now.

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              mialebven RE: Miami Danny Sep 22, 2007 02:43 PM

              That's exactly what I thought, Miami Danny... which makes me wonder - how is it that Josh's Organic is "local" while Glaser isn't, if we're not yet in "season?"

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                Miami Danny RE: mialebven Sep 23, 2007 07:32 AM

                The OP mentioned mushrooms, which can be grown year-round. Lettuce is by and large a winter crop, so I'm not sure when MIAfronSFO visited the market. Although the poster raved about 'exotics', yellow watermelon and mameys are not really that exotic if you live here-I bought a mamey yesterday at Publix, and I've actually bought some yellow watermelon at the Coconut Grove Farmer's Market as well. I was there yesterday, and they had over 100 organic items, not just fruits and vegetables, but many other items, including beans, lentils, grains of all kinds, organic dried fruits, nuts, etc. Mr. Glaser is an actual organic farmer, but, obviously, the oranges and grapes, etc., are not 'local'. There aren't a lot of grapes or apples grown here. But everything looked and smelled really fresh, despite being shipped here from wherever, and it is a great experience.

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                taiga RE: Miami Danny Oct 15, 2007 05:31 PM

                You can't join now; there are no more spots. The cost of organics is also absorbed in order to subsidize those making the effort to grow things that will not pollute. No one buys organics for the price. We support a movement.

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                  Miami Danny RE: taiga Oct 15, 2007 06:40 PM

                  No one buys organics for the price? Perhaps if money is no object! Anyway, the RedlandOrganics CSA has a waiting list as of today. Traditionally people change their minds, so if you're interested, go to their website and sign up. No one buys organics for the price? Then why are so many people in this thread and elsewhere complaining about prices? And by movement, I guess you mean The Whole Foods Corporation?

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                    taiga RE: Miami Danny Oct 18, 2007 05:25 PM

                    If price were the object, you wouldn't buy organic food. Instead you would go to Winn DIxie. People complain about the prices because money is tight. Whole Foods runs against the CSA movement, which, if you want to support local organic food, you must bite the bullet and cut corners elsewhere. However, if it is simply organic food one is after, Wild Oats and Whole Foods attempt to corner the market and have some good stuff. If the price overwhelms the cause, there will no longer be RedlandOrganics and you will have no choice at all. Therefore, I pay the premium.

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            chow003 RE: MIAfromSFO Sep 21, 2007 05:35 PM

            Josh's Organic Garden is nice, but he is now closed for a month. They reopen in the middle of October I believe.

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              yomyb RE: chow003 Sep 24, 2007 09:14 AM

              We actually went yesterday and had a great time. He has great stuff, but of course not everything is local, it can't be....But it is good stuff at good prices compared to what you can get at Whole Foods etc. We got great squash, herbs, tomatoes, lettuce, sweet peppers (no hot peppers yesterday), and had an amazing basically vegan dinner last night! Thanks for the tip.

              This is the article that gave me directions:

              http://www.living-foods.com/articles/...

              Once you are at the boardwalk, it is easy to spot, and if it isn't you will hear Josh shouting things like "no hot peppers today" etc. ;-).

              He mentioned he will be closed for the next two weeks, not a month.

              Have a good one guys!

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              lorilaw RE: MIAfromSFO Sep 23, 2007 07:13 AM

              Is there a specific address or the name of the hotel for Josh's Organic? I am a Miami Dade resident and not familiar with that area. Thanks!

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                Sobe RE: lorilaw Sep 23, 2007 07:37 AM

                Lorilaw, here is a link to the only listing I can find. It's on the Broadwalk behind the Ramada just south of Hollywood Blvd.

                http://www.rawfoods.com/articles/holl...

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                lydiainflorida RE: MIAfromSFO Oct 14, 2007 10:14 AM

                Does anyone know if Josh's open today? Thinking about going over there this afternoon. Thanks!

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                  ruckus_bringer RE: MIAfromSFO Oct 19, 2007 02:42 PM

                  i cant believe nobody has mentioned Norman Brothers. Go there. great produce, great prepared food too. 1/4 mile south of sunset drive on 87th ave (galloway)

                  www.normanbrothers.com

                  forget the rest. go to Norman Brothers.

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                    Miami Danny RE: ruckus_bringer Oct 19, 2007 10:51 PM

                    Love Norman's. Also can't believe it's never come up before.

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                      Miami Danny RE: Miami Danny Oct 20, 2007 02:10 PM

                      Of course, it's not a farmer's market, nor do they have any organic produce other than carrots from California.

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                        Frodnesor RE: Miami Danny Nov 4, 2007 05:06 AM

                        Don't be so hard on yourself - I love Norman's too.

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                          Miami Danny RE: Frodnesor Nov 4, 2007 05:29 AM

                          Just having some fun. My point was it didn't come up on this thread because it's not a farmer's market, nor do they specialize in organics. . I love the Wagyu burgers, though-highly recommended. And the Wagyu steak's pretty amazing as well, if it's not priced thru the stratosphere.

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                            Frodnesor RE: Miami Danny Nov 4, 2007 05:40 AM

                            Just impressed by your discipline in adhering to topic. When you mentioned Norman's I thought "Oh, yeah, I always forget about Norman's". Then when you pointed out it is neither a farmer's market nor does it do much organic, I once again said "Oh, yeah."

                            What is their pricing per pound on Wagyu beef?

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                              Miami Danny RE: Frodnesor Nov 6, 2007 09:38 AM

                              Discipline is my middle name. They have the Mishima Ranch Wagyu burger patties at $10/lb (two patties) which are amazing, especially (maybe only) if you like rare beef. The sirloin was $18/lb-worth every penny. The ribeye was sky-high-I think $40-something (maybe even 60(?)/lb. Must cook this stuff high-heat, briefly. Here's more pix and info.
                              http://dailycocaine.blogspot.com/2007...

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                    sfchow RE: MIAfromSFO Oct 26, 2007 09:55 AM

                    My husband and I go to Josh's every Sunday morning; the market is open from 8:30am to 5:30pm. We like to get there early, before things get picked over. The selection is amazing, and of course continually changes throughout the year. Josh is very helpful; he'll be happy to tell you what the 'best buys' are as far as what it is in season. We've bought vegetables that will stay fresh for 2 weeks in the fridge! We live nearby, but I'd drive 60 minutes to get my fruits and veggies here.

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                      miagreek RE: sfchow Nov 3, 2007 06:08 PM

                      Here's my assessment--I live near downtown Miami and I've shopped at Whole Foods, Wild Oats, Glaser in the Grove, and Josh's. While I used to go to Glaser every week, it's been Josh's for years (since he had just 4-5 tables) Of the two markets, Glaser has WAY more variety (esp. in spices, dried foods, unique fruits, fermented foods, salad dressings, etc), but the prices are higher (like Whole Foods/Wild Oats) and most produce comes from California. Josh's is cheaper and fresher (a substantial amount comes from Florida), but it is just produce and juice. My father owned a produce company for 25 years (and I worked with him occasionally): Josh's is the freshest produce I've ever seen.

                      When you start to buy organic it is easy to get shell shocked by the prices because you are used to the deceptive packaging at the grocery store and organic places price things by the pound. Example: Publix's fresh spices: $32 per pound.

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                        madtheswine RE: miagreek Nov 5, 2007 04:54 AM

                        I've heard Laurenzo's in NMB runs a Farmer's Market. Has anyone ever been? Is it any good?

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                          yomyb RE: madtheswine Nov 5, 2007 05:03 AM

                          It is not really a farmer's market and it is nothing you can't get at Publix. I may be wrong, but I think I remember nothing being organic and barely anything being local. But I guess it is cheap and convinient if you are already shopping with them at the Italian market.

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                            Frodnesor RE: yomyb Nov 5, 2007 05:10 AM

                            Mostly agree with yomyb's description, with one minor exception. I haven't been in a couple years, but I do recall that they did have some unusual items that you didn't often see elsewhere - cardoons, yellow tomatoes, nice herbs, etc.

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                              Miami Danny RE: Frodnesor Nov 6, 2007 09:47 AM

                              Funny-I was there the other day and they had some 'cactus' pears. They looked so interesting I picked one up and started examining it and then proceeded to get about ten painful mini-needles stuck in my hand...exotic, indeed. Other than that, there weren't really any items I'd go out of my way for-they call themselves a 'farmer's market', but that's really in name only. And the place is looking a bit ragged. Cannolis still rock, though.

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                          taiga RE: miagreek Nov 6, 2007 10:23 AM

                          I agree -- it's easy to get shocked by the prices. But as I wrote before, if it is price one is after, organics would not be an issue. When we buy organics, it is not for ourselves, but for a movement. It's a sacrifice we make for the land, the small farmers (though Publix, Horizon, and Whole Foods bastardize this), and a future without GMO's, pesticides, and hormones.

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                            Miami Danny RE: miagreek Nov 6, 2007 10:42 AM

                            I was at Josh's this past Sunday and I really loved it. Got some fresh organic rosemary. The only local produce as far as I could tell was lettuce. His produce was from Canada, Pennsylvania, and I think I saw some California boxes (L2M?) too. Fresh from Cali, or Canada is still traveling a long way to get here. Additionally, some of these growers are not small farmers at all. And, again, this is not a farmer's market, but he is merely acting as a retailer for wholesale products-although there's nothing wrong with that. As I've said before, the season hasn't started here yet. Be patient. And could you please explain "Publix fresh spices: $32 per pound'? I'm not sure what you mean.

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                              Frodnesor RE: Miami Danny Jan 7, 2008 10:11 AM

                              I suspect $32/pound means $2 / oz (which I believe is the usual package size for fresh herbs at Publix) multiplied out.

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                          mialebven RE: MIAfromSFO Jan 7, 2008 09:48 AM

                          Critical Miami brought up another farmer's market I haven't seen mentioned down in this thread. And for the first time, the location of this farmer's market actually makes some sense! It's where? Down in Homestead.

                          http://criticalmiami.com/2008/01/07/h...

                          244th St and US 1. Has anyone been?

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                            Miami Danny RE: mialebven Jan 25, 2008 07:26 AM

                            I know there's not a lot of 'organic' produce here, but Chef Dewey LoSasso of North One10 will be heading down to the Redlands to grab some fresh produce, and promoting it at the Upper East Side Greenmarket on Saturday, from 9AM-3PM. He's also making Virgin Dewey's ( see www.dailycocaine.blogspot.com for a photo of the bottle) and will be offering espresso, key lime creme brulee, Indonesian chicken salad, and some other stuff. Chef Sandra Stefani of Casa Toscana will have artisan breads, and other Italian products, Chef Michael Schwartz of Michael's Genuine was shopping here last week, and Michelle Bernstein of Michy's has been spotted shopping here both Saturdays the market has been open. I think tomorrow will see a lot more chefs shopping here, and maybe some more vendors, as well.

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                              lax2mia RE: Miami Danny Jan 25, 2008 07:57 AM

                              Vendors! More vendors! Real farmers! Please!

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                                taiga RE: Miami Danny Jan 25, 2008 08:12 AM

                                If more chefs go to the Redlands, that would be great news!

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                                  Frodnesor RE: taiga Jan 25, 2008 11:11 AM

                                  I think a number of local chefs are now procuring produce from the Redlands - obviously not nearly as many are taking such responsibility to promote it as what Dewey's doing. Good stuff.

                                  Took a look at his online menu recently and saw that some dishes included "Miami Shores Mangos" - how's that for going local?

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                                    taiga RE: Frodnesor Jan 25, 2008 03:41 PM

                                    Bill McKibben, global warming God, says local is the new organic. Both would be great!

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                                  Frodnesor RE: Miami Danny Jan 26, 2008 12:18 PM

                                  Visited the Upper East Side Greenmarket today and was glad I did. Given the typical experience at Miami "farmers" markets I had low expectations, and they were exceeded by quite a bit.

                                  Dewey LoSasso (from North One 10) was indeed out and had dragged along an exotic fruit farmer from the Redlands, and brought some thai guava, pomelos, some sweet little finger bananas, and a some other exotic tropical fruits. Dewey had made some "Virign Deweys" and a few other items and had some home-made hot sauce for sale. There were at least 3-4 other fruit and vegetable stands, a couple of which had some nice locally grown produce - we got some delicious red navel oranges (5 / $1.00) and ruby red grapefruit, there were also some nice-looking Immokalee beefsteak tomatoes, some zucchini, peppers, one guy had some farm-fresh eggs. Another vendor had some produce which I suspect was not locally grown but was organic, other had brought in some boxed fruit and veg which at least looked pretty nice quality. There was a honey producer who had several varieties of local honeys including orange blossom, wildflower and palmetto.

                                  Grabbed some Colombian baked goods - a nice arepa con carne, and a cheesy bread thing - then regretted not saving some room for the Argentinian empanadas.

                                  Saw the $8/lb stone crab guy, they looked and smelled good but I'm just not that brave.

                                  This was my first visit, but it sounds like market is improving every week. Certainly better than my experiences at several others. Another great addition to the Biscayne Corridor (MD - is this the "surprisingly hip restaurant row" or is it 79th Street? I get confused.)

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                                    Miami Danny RE: Frodnesor Jan 26, 2008 05:40 PM

                                    Great report, Sir Frodesnor. Patience, as they say, is a virtue, and I believe they will keep improving every week. I had a nice, long, conversation with the organizer, Claire Tomlin,and she is confident that the market will get bigger and better. She told me that she is speaking to farmers (at least one that I know personally), to get more participation. Roger Washington of Red Dragon Fruit Company (the farmer you mentioned) told me that getting up to Miami on a Saturday is very tough. In fact taking any time away from the farm is very hard.for him. So the problem is not really that the farmers don't WANT to come, they are simply too busy. They probably need to make upwards of $1000 just to make it worth their while (a figure quoted to me by several people). Vito, the fresh mozzarella guy from Apulia was pretty much sold out when I arrived at 1:15, and Casa Toscana had sold out of their artisan breads. I bought two containers of blackberries, and one of raspberries, that were perfectly ripe and ready to eat, all three for $5. The photo is below. The berries are
                                    imported from Mexico and Chile, but you don't see them all the time, and that's pretty cheap. They tasted great, warmed by the sun. The same vendor also had cheap papayas and mangoes. Oh, and two words...Mango Mousse. I have more shots of the Virgin Dewey and his hot sauces (including guava), at www.dailycocaine.blogspot.com For you celebrity-chef watchers, Michael Schwartz was shopping there again today, and Michelle Bernstein sent her mother. And Dewey and Dale had their kids with them. Very down-home.

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                                      The Chowfather AKA sobe RE: Miami Danny Jan 26, 2008 06:38 PM

                                      Couple of questions and I apologize in advance if I the answers were previously mentioned.
                                      When do they do the Upper East Side Greenmarket?(every sat, just sat?)
                                      Are there food vendors involved or is this basically produce? I ask b/c I was recently in London and loved the Borough Market. Amazing place and I've never seen anything like it. (you guys mentioned some food items)
                                      Who is this Vito guy and how do we find him outside of the market?

                                      Off thread topic but related- Casa Toscana, thoughts?
                                      I've never been to Dewey's restaurant, should I go?

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                                        Miami Danny RE: The Chowfather AKA sobe Jan 26, 2008 07:33 PM

                                        Right now it's just Saturday, 9AM-3PM, and just a ten week 'trial period', to appease the neighbors who were vocally skeptical. I think the trial period, due to the success and pretty smooth operation, may be extended. There is food. North One10 has espresso, key lime creme brulee's, Indonesian Chicken Salad, and something else I've forgotten. I don't have Vito's info at hand, but I can get it. I just met him today thru Sandra of Casa Toscana. There was an organic stand selling escargots, and wraps, and mango mousse.. One vendor sells homemade hummus and other dips and sauces (the girl who gets her produce from Immokalee). There is a cookie guy, and the Colombian and Argy vendors Frod mentioned. There's also your standard juice lady, There are croissants at Casa Toscana's booth. I think that's it. And the Virgin Deweys...

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                                          Frodnesor RE: The Chowfather AKA sobe Jan 27, 2008 05:01 AM

                                          Just to make clear so you (or others, really, since I suspect you already know this) don't get your hopes up too high - the Upper East Side market is nothing like Borough Market. Borough Market covers a few city blocks and must have hundreds of vendors. This is a small-scale temporary deal with maybe a dozen or so vendors who set up tents and take them down at the end of the afternoon. Otherwise I think MD's answered your other questions.

                                          I think Casa Toscana is a nice neighborhood place with pretty good Northern Italian food and an incredibly charming hostess/chef/owner, Sandra. I've had some very yummy chicken liver crostini there, a nice ravioli w/ truffle oil that was a special one night, I didn't love the lasagna, and keep meaning to try the osso buco but have never been there with a sufficient appetitte to take it on. The wine selection is short but interesting with primarily Italian wines, and a sort of amusing way to do it - all the wines are up on shelving on the wall, and you go over, take a look and grab whatever bottle you want (prices on a little sticker on the back of the bottle). Sandra's always glad to help choose.

                                          North One 10 is also worth a visit. Dewey was one of the original "Mango Gang" and the food I guess I'd call "New American" with a tropical twist, but with ingredients that will literally go all over the map. It's been a while since I've been and it looks like the online menu's been updated, so I don't know if I can recommend particular dishes, but the salmon croquetas (w/ "damn hot guava sauce") were good, as was the duck.

                                          I've always been intrigued by their special event menus though I've never been. Check out the Valentine's menu and the Super Bowl brunch menus on the website ->
                                          http://www.northone10.com/events.cfm

                                          MD, did you happen to catch where the guy with the unlikely combination of escargot, wraps and mango mousse was from?

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                                            The Chowfather AKA sobe RE: Frodnesor Jan 27, 2008 05:59 AM

                                            Thanks MD & Frod for your responses. Yeah, I wasn't expecting a large market and certainly nothing like Borough. Just looking for a food oriented market. Sounds like this has some potential. I need to bump North One 10 up on the "to do list".

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                                              Miami Danny RE: The Chowfather AKA sobe Jan 27, 2008 06:27 AM

                                              The guys selling the escargots had a chalkboard that said 'Be Organic'. I don't know if that's their name or just their mantra, but I can tell you that the people scarfing down that mousse looked like they were in bliss. I posted some photos, and I'll try to do it here, as well. Didn't work last time.

                                               
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                                                Miami Danny RE: Miami Danny Jan 27, 2008 06:30 AM

                                                'Be Organic' had, I believe, an avocado or avocado/mango mousse as well.

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                                                  lax2mia RE: Miami Danny Jan 27, 2008 12:20 PM

                                                  That stand is hilarious. The sign said "Be Organic" and then the menu ran down" Escargot...$X, Avocado...$X, Mango Mousse...$X". They also had wraps. It was the most patchworked menu I'd ever seen! I wish I'd gotten the mousse though, it looked very good.

                                                  I saw Michael Schwartz there and was going to ask him about my eggs and grits (see ridiculously long post on the Michael's Genuine post) but he looked like he was going to rip someone's head off. Does the guy ever smile? I think the most happy expression I've seen on him has been one of ambivalence, otherwise he just looks mad. Maybe my waiter was scared of asking for the fried egg. I understand why. Regardless he made the rounds at the Casa Toscana and North 110 booths but didn't look too interested in anything else.

                                                  And many thanks to Dewey for bringing the dragonfruit guy up from Redlands. They guy was superfriendly and kept wanting people to try his stuff. Granted it was a little expensive, but maybe with more turnover he'd be able to get his prices down. Come on people! Buy some thai guavas and sunburst tomatoes. They're awesome!

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                                                    Miami Danny RE: lax2mia Jan 27, 2008 06:36 PM

                                                    Funny-I always thought of Michael as a sunny guy! And by the way, those eggs are double-yolked, so you would have been in for a treat had you had one over your grits. And if a waiter stuck a spoon in my food, it would probably end up coming out the other side, if you get my drift. And I'm a sunny guy. too. You showed remarkable patience.

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                                                      lax2mia RE: Miami Danny Jan 27, 2008 07:10 PM

                                                      The experience was so absurd I had to keep it going. I was waiting to see if he'd scoop the ice cream for my dessert tableside.

                                                      Michael sunny? I believe he's easily gotten the most censor bleeps ever for a guest on Top Chef.

                                                      And Mr. MD sunny? Anyone who comes up with Press Chops has gotta be more dark side of the moon than shiny happy person. But keep it up, the skewering is hilarious!

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                                                        Miami Danny RE: lax2mia Jan 28, 2008 08:55 AM

                                                        LOFL! Thank you. Speaking of Michael, He bought fifteen pounds of Vito's fresh mozzarella on Saturday, and made a killer caprese with it, including Paradise Farms' basil, heirloom tomatoes, great olive oil and fleur de sel. Buying local is getting easier, and that's good news for everybody.

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                                                          madtheswine RE: Miami Danny Jan 29, 2008 06:07 AM

                                                          I don't see an exact address to the Upper East side greenmarket, where can I find it?

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                                                            Frodnesor RE: madtheswine Jan 29, 2008 06:19 AM

                                                            Biscayne Blvd. between NE 65th and 66th Street on the east side of Biscayne, at the entrance to Legionnaire's Park. There's a parking lot just south (@ 64th Street?)

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                                                              miachef RE: Frodnesor Jan 29, 2008 09:03 AM

                                                              It's at Legion Memorial Park (6447 NE 7th Ave.).

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                                                                Frodnesor RE: miachef Jan 29, 2008 11:15 AM

                                                                The NE 7th Ave. reference may confuse rather than help as that it is a tiny little half-block street basically within the park itself. The advertisements placed by the market itself refer to it being at Biscayne Boulevard @ 66th Street.

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                                                                  miachef RE: Frodnesor Jan 29, 2008 12:16 PM

                                                                  You're right. The NE7th Ave. takes you to the park parking lot which is on the street behind Biscayne. You can't miss it if you're driving along Biscayne and the 60s...

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                                                                    lax2mia RE: miachef Jan 29, 2008 12:41 PM

                                                                    You can't miss it and you have a good chance actually driving into it. It's right on Biscayne!

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                                            Mr. yomyb RE: The Chowfather AKA sobe Jul 5, 2008 08:33 PM

                                            Whenever we go to a restaurant I really like, I get on Y's case to write something about it on Chowhound. She finally got fed up and told me to get my own darn account, so here I am.

                                            We just got back from a nice meal at Casa Toscana on Biscayne. I really like this place. It has a cozy little dining room in the front, decorated with old black and white pictures of Italian-looking folks, and is very homey. Charming, clean, and non-pretentious. Our server was polite and personable. Water service was prompt, tasted filtered, and was kept refilled at appropriate intervals throughout the meal.

                                            The pre-dinner bread experience is usually a good indicator of the quality of the coming meal, and tonight was no exception. We were served a few pieces of light, very fresh wheat bread, delicately crusty, with a nice nuttiness, and warmed up slightly beforehand. This is served with a cruet of herb-infused (I think rosemary and perhaps something else) olive oil. At a lot of Italian restaurants they serve you more of a dipping sauce, in which the flavors (garlic, maybe oregano, or chiles) predominate, and the base could be any old olive oil. But here, the herb only served to enhance the vegetable, grassy taste of fine oil. Such a simple thing, really, bread and oil, here done exactly right, emphasis on simplicity and quality of ingredients.

                                            Y is well into her third trimester, and can't fit much food, so we split an appetizer of Fontina-stuffed lemon flavored risotto croquettes with citrus sauce. These were excellent - very well-planned and effortlessly executed. I still can't decide whether they were fried or baked, the crispy outside was so free of grease. Using risotto for a croquette gives a wonderful consistency and flavor, which complemented the taste of the fontina nicely. "Stuffed" may have been a slight misnomer, because the ingredients blended nicely together rather than having a distinct cheese/rice boundary, but I won't fuss too much over semantics. The lemon flavor added a nice sweetness to the croquettes, and the citrus sauce (on the side in a ramekin) had a slightly sweet taste as well, and the consistency of homemade mayonnaise. Overall: Very Good.

                                            For our main course (we always share so as to have the opportunity to taste as many things as possible), we had the meat lasagna, and the ricotta and pear ravioli with brown butter sage and shaved parmesan. Lasagna: served in a oven dish. Meat ragu complemented well by other ingredients. Good sauce ratio. Good integrity of construction (i.e. you can cut into it with your fork and the layers don't slide apart horizontally). Going out on a limb here: ricotta, fontina, parmesan, maybe a little mozzarella (but maybe not - no stringiness, not too much to the teeth)? Not heavy or over-salted. Overall: Excellent, wouldn't hesitate to order it again. Ravioli: temperature was exactly right - not served too hot so the ricotta kept a nice consistency and the delicate flavor of the pear wasn't damaged. Purse-shaped, which was a good call because the wonderful brown butter sage sauce could be captured well in the gathered bit. While eating it, I felt as though the dish was sweet, but each bite I took was not that sweet - it was the oddest and neatest thing. Pasta had a great color - the chef must use the same eggs as Michael Schwartz uses in his double yolk, the pasta is such a great yellow - almost orange, really. Overall: Excellent, would order it again with pleasure.

                                            The most wonderful, mysterious thing about this restaurant is that I felt that everything we ate was comprised of the highest-quality, richest ingredients, yet the chef has a trick of preparing them so one is not left feeling heavy or weighed down. Casa Toscana is my and Y's choice for Italian food in Miami.

                                  2. Frodnesor RE: MIAfromSFO Feb 4, 2008 01:15 PM

                                    One interesting little discovery from this weekend's Upper Eastside Green Market - the "Honey Man" has several different varieties of locally produced honeys. Aside from the usual orange blossom and wildflower, he had some more exotic items including avocado, mangrove, and palmetto. He also has all sorts of other odd honey-related products including bee pollen, royal jelly, etc., the purpose of which I don't fully understand.

                                    We got some of the mangrove honey out of curiosity and it is indeed curious stuff. Very heartily and robustly flavored, not just overtly sweet - indeed Mrs. F said it tasted like motor oil. I thought it was really interesting though I'm still trying to figure out what to do with it. I think it might make a good pairing with an equally full-flavored goat cheese, maybe.

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                                      Miami Danny RE: Frodnesor Feb 4, 2008 04:48 PM

                                      Motor oil and goat cheese. Standard pairing according to Brillat-Savarin. You know I hate to be all sunny and bright, but I bought some more mozzarella from Vito at the UES Green Market (the parking's in th back btw-head west on 64th St, then make the first left toward the lot). Okay. I'm going to post a picture because it is that beautiful. He also, in addition to cannoli's, had little pastries called canestrini (ricotta and chocolate-filled), and panzerotini's (sp?) which are little half-moons filled with walnuts and something else. They were both curiously different, and delicious. Hints of amaretto or sambucca-I have photos at www.dailycocaine.blogspot.com
                                      Senor Frod-I bought some $8/lb Stone Crab Claws. They are not the kind you get at Joe's-they're probably seconds, or whatever they're called, but they were tasty and fresh. Sixteen beauties for $16. My constant companion and I ate them all with a little mustard/mayo sauce. while cooking dinner-pasta with eggplant/tomato sauce covered in melted fresh mozzarella. The round eggplants the girl in the back sells are super-sweet, and need no pre-salting. I also picked up a half-dozen double yolk eggs. I hesitate to tell people about them because they're so freakishly good. I had an onion soup at Michael's Genuine last week topped with these very same eggs, poached. I had them for breakfast today and they were amazing. That is just TWO eggs in the pan.

                                       
                                       
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                                        Frodnesor RE: Miami Danny Feb 4, 2008 07:36 PM

                                        Those eggplants (did they say they were sicilian eggplants?) looked nice. Her strawberries were also pretty good (only 3 actually made it all the way home). I also saw in your most recent PressChops photo what looked like some of those nice spring onions on top of that (nearly extinct) Chilean sea bass.

                                        I'm glad to hear you lived to tell of the stone crabs.

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                                        The Chowhound Team RE: Frodnesor Feb 5, 2008 07:19 AM

                                        We've moved a discussion of different kinds of honey to the General Chowhounding Topics board at http://www.chowhound.com/topics/486508 . Although the discussion was spurred by honey available at this local vendor, the discussion of different kinds of honey and honey products would be of interest to hounds everywhere.

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                                          Icantread RE: Frodnesor Feb 5, 2008 09:51 AM

                                          makes sense there'd be a bit of tarriness and saltiness added to the honey taste. Saw the avocado this past weekend, glad i didn't see the mangrove one then though! Murkying our waters and now turning honey to motor oil. Could this be the future of ethanol???

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                                            Frodnesor RE: Icantread Feb 5, 2008 10:42 AM

                                            I liked the mangrove honey and thought it was interesting and had character, though there was not a consensus of opinion in my household. There's apparently a long history of making the stuff in Florida.

                                        2. Frodnesor RE: MIAfromSFO Apr 13, 2008 08:03 AM

                                          Reviving this thread just to give a short report on a visit to UES Green Market a couple weeks ago (I've missed the past couple weeks). There were a couple new faces there, incl. a BBQ guy (James?) with big beef ribs and chicken. The ribs were decent but I prefer BBQ Beach. We picked up a Florida-grown Sicilian eggplant, spring onions and fresh corn and the veg were just awesome. Used the eggplant and onions in a sort of ratatouille variant w/ thin-sliced eggplant, onions halved lengthwise, along w/ some roasted red peppers and a little sun-dried tomato, all sauteed, then layered and roasted a bit.

                                          But the real revelation was the corn. I have heard and read how when corn is really fresh it is so sweet you can eat it raw - as it is transported and sits, the sugar convert to starch and it gets ... well, starchy instead of sweet. I shaved the corn off the cob to use in a dish and tasted some off the board, and lo and behold - it was sweet and delicious. Let the kids try some, and they loved it - kept coming back into the kitchen to sneak off with some more before I could cook it. Great stuff.

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                                            taiga RE: Frodnesor Apr 14, 2008 06:59 AM

                                            Corn off the board! Frod just keeps elevating it. Can it, add something to preserve it, give it a good name like Blue Monster or Bel Vonte, and you could get rich! Who would have thought that fresh food would taste good?

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                                              Miami Danny RE: taiga Apr 14, 2008 11:16 AM

                                              Ouch! I eat a lot of raw corn, raw beets, too, as I feel that cooking them doesn't necessarily make them taste better. I was on a raw foods cleanse in January, and you'll be amazed at the taste of real food, in case it has been a while. Good for the digestive system, too, if you know what I mean. Try doing some juicing. Getting back to the market, the BBQ guy is indeed James, and he also works out of the parking lot behind Publix on Biscaune and 48th (it's actually called N. Federal Hwy.) Smokes 'em.
                                              http://dailycocaine.blogspot.com/2008...

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                                                winegirl1973 RE: Miami Danny May 3, 2008 04:55 AM

                                                Hi -- I'm new to the area (moved here yesterday from Chicago), and checking out the Farmer's Market possibilities. It looks like the Upper Eastside Green Market was a 10-week experiment that started in January -- have they continued it or is it done?

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                                                  Frodnesor RE: winegirl1973 May 3, 2008 02:19 PM

                                                  I had heard, but am not sure, that today was last day for UES Green Market. Most do not go through the summer.

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                                                    mialebven RE: Frodnesor May 3, 2008 07:06 PM

                                                    According to Mango & Lime's website... in the first picture, it shows that the market ends on May 15th.

                                                    http://mangoandlime.net/2008/01/12/up...

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                                                      Frodnesor RE: mialebven May 3, 2008 09:27 PM

                                                      Umm ... that's an old post, but that sign says March 15 (which we're now well past).

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                                                        mialebven RE: Frodnesor May 4, 2008 04:02 AM

                                                        Oh, you're right! Sometimes my mind register it as May, not March! Oy! But you're right, last day was May 3rd - unless if they decide to extend it due to public opinion... now here's crossing our fingers that they didn't decide to end it!

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                                                          winegirl1973 RE: mialebven May 20, 2008 01:17 PM

                                                          I believe that this coming weekend is the last for the Delray Beach market; I went two weeks ago. A couple of truly organic vendors, one bakery, a pasta company, an olive oil company, a crepe vendor, and a few selling soap, jewelry etc. It's small and still needs work, but they're excited about continuing it next fall, so hopefully it will grow.

                                                          In the meantime, I spoke to someone on the phone today and they've decided to continue the Upper Eastside Market (at Legion Park, 6447 NE 7th Ave. 305.775.2166) through the summer. Saturdays, 9AM - 3PM. I haven't been yet, but will report as soon as I go.

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                                                            mialebven RE: winegirl1973 May 28, 2008 11:34 PM

                                                            AHHH! Seriously? I must have missed the news... so it's literally going to be up and running this Saturday? I was under the impression that they were going to hold it off for the Fall and then decide to run it next year's summer.

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                                            chevrehead RE: MIAfromSFO Jul 5, 2008 08:58 PM

                                            This is not a farmers market, but www.deliciousorganics.com is a south Florida based website, where you can order organic produce and more for delivery. They are a family bussiness that serves the east coast of south Florida. Not everything they sell is local, but everything that is local is marked as such, and you can pretty much count on finding whatever is available locally at the time.

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                                              sethny RE: chevrehead Jul 26, 2008 10:46 AM

                                              Just an FYI - I stopped by the UES Greenmarket today - was rather pathetic - 4 vendors only two with produce - despite desire to keep this going during the summer I think it's likely only a winter thing...

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                                                Frodnesor RE: sethny Jul 26, 2008 04:02 PM

                                                There is very little that is locally in season right now other than mangoes, so not surprising.

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                                              rima_gerhard RE: MIAfromSFO Aug 22, 2008 10:03 AM

                                              Go to the Mexican Farmer's Market on US1 an 248th. This place is fun, tons of fresh fruits and veggies, not to mention fresh pressed juices, exotic items such as cactus, and a flea market on the weekend too. Don't be afraid to step into a whole new universe! Open on FRI, SAT,SUN only!

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                                                taiga RE: rima_gerhard Aug 26, 2008 07:26 PM

                                                No extra charge for the pesticides!

                                              2. Frodnesor RE: MIAfromSFO Oct 5, 2008 01:27 PM

                                                Hmmm ... saw a sign up at the Vagabond Hotel (73rd St. & Biscayne Blvd.) announcing there was going to be a farmers market there starting Nov. 1 Saturdays and Sundays. Also saw a sign up at Legion Park (around 65th & Biscayne) for the Upper East Side Green Market, which had a nice run this spring; website for the Market Company says they'll be resuming October 25. I can't really believe there's going to be 2 farmers markets within 10 blocks of each other - anyone have any more info, are they moving the UES Market to the Vagabond location?

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                                                  lax2mia RE: Frodnesor Oct 6, 2008 07:03 AM

                                                  The owner of the Vagabond is trying to do something, anything, with the site. One move is to turn it into a retail area with markets (produce, fish, etc.). The guy seems to have a lot of ideas. I just wonder what'll happen as far as suppliers go. There aren't that many farms in the area to supply the "farmers markets" we have now (Gables, UES, Lincoln Rd), much less another one. We'll see.

                                                  Here's an article on his plans.

                                                  http://www.biscaynetimes.com/index.ph...

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                                                    Frodnesor RE: lax2mia Oct 6, 2008 07:29 AM

                                                    Wow - pretty ambitious plans. Sort of baffling why he wouldn't start by making a deal to move the UES Market onto the Vagabond property rather than trying to go head-to-head with it - the county must be giving the Market Company a better deal.

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                                                  minimalistdog RE: MIAfromSFO Jul 6, 2009 04:27 PM

                                                  goldcoastfarmersmarket.com

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                                                    meeatgood24 RE: MIAfromSFO Sep 14, 2009 08:27 AM

                                                    We just came from SF as well recently and unfortunately truth be told Miami cannot compete with California! Josh's is really good as well as Glaser, thats about it. Keep in touch and let me know what you find here worthwhile, taco trucks maybe? haha! not here..unfortunately!

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                                                      lax2mia RE: meeatgood24 Sep 14, 2009 08:34 AM

                                                      Yes to taco truck! On the weekends on Douglas Rd (37th Ave.) at Douglas Park there's a truck called Orale.

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                                                        Frodnesor RE: lax2mia Sep 14, 2009 09:41 AM

                                                        Same truck during the week can be found at a gas station on NW 27th Avenue between State Roads 836 and 112, on the west side of the street. I've got a card from them that says 17th St. & 27th Ave. but I'm not sure that's right.

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                                                          yomyb RE: Frodnesor Sep 14, 2009 04:30 PM

                                                          As of a couple of weeks ago, that gas station was under construction and Orale is not there....anyone know where they are or if the station is back business?

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                                                            Frodnesor RE: yomyb Sep 14, 2009 05:10 PM

                                                            I have a card with a couple phone numbers on it but No hablo espanol, so if someone wants to try to find out:
                                                            305-970-0270
                                                            786-290-7308

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                                                              yomyb RE: Frodnesor Sep 15, 2009 09:51 AM

                                                              Just called. They are now "by the liqour store and the Department of Children on the corner of 15th St and 27th Ave, ahi estamos"

                                                              Thanks Frod!

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                                                                meeatgood24 RE: yomyb Sep 15, 2009 08:08 PM

                                                                Oh my! I must try Orale! Thanks everyone!

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                                                        taiga RE: meeatgood24 Sep 14, 2009 10:40 AM

                                                        The farmer's markets get substantially better here in winter if you search a little bit.

                                                      3. herbage RE: MIAfromSFO Dec 17, 2010 07:40 AM

                                                        There is an awesome farmer's market in Liberty City that started up two weeks ago. My wife affectionately calls it the 'Ghetto Farmer's Market.' Don't worry, it is a cultural experience going to this area of town and the market itself is safe.

                                                        The market is all local farmers with a large organic selection. The best thing is...it is super cheap.

                                                        They run from now until April.

                                                        12-6pm

                                                        Liberty City Farmer's Market
                                                        TACOLCY Park
                                                        6161 NW 9th Ave
                                                        Miami, FL 33127

                                                        Organized by: http://www.urbanoasisproject.org/

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                                                          lulydonikian RE: herbage Dec 23, 2010 06:14 AM

                                                          I don't know where you are, but the Pinecrest Market is excellent also, there is a great variety
                                                          of vegetables, also fresh and dry pasta, cheese, seafood, it is a really great experience.

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                                                            taiga RE: lulydonikian Dec 24, 2010 02:17 PM

                                                            Pinecrest is good. My wife affectionately calls it the 'Insensitive Upper Class Farmer's Market.' Don't worry, it is a cultural experience going to this area of town and the market itself is safe, as long as you don't do any banking transactions with these monster house people who have profited from taking advantage of others like I have.

                                                            The market is local with a reasonable organic selection. The best thing is...it is super expensive.

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                                                              Miami Danny RE: taiga Jan 4, 2011 07:25 AM

                                                              The Roots in the City/Wholesome Wave Farmers Market has reopened at NW 2nd Ave and 10th St. Chef Michael Schwartz is the major local supporter. Food stamps get double value and there are local vendors like Troy Gardens, (from the Troy Academy who work with at-risk youth), as well as more traditional farmers like Teena's Pride and Bee Heaven Farms.
                                                              http://thegenuinekitchen.com/2010/12/...

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                                                          rkanter RE: MIAfromSFO Jan 4, 2011 12:11 PM

                                                          The greens at Josh's outdoor market are the best. Excellent quality. But some of the vegetables are very expensive. Shop carefully.

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                                                            caraelaine RE: MIAfromSFO Feb 6, 2011 01:32 PM

                                                            This is exactly what I was looking for. I am also from Northern California in Lodi and I grew up on a farm with the freshest of everything. Now I am in Miami and I have no idea where to find the healthiest foods. Do you know of any farmers market in Miami-Dade or markets like Trader Joes? Thanks for sharing the info.

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                                                              Frodnesor RE: caraelaine Feb 6, 2011 08:28 PM

                                                              This thread hasn't been updated for some time and there are a few farmers markets that I don't think have been mentioned here.

                                                              - Roots in the City (Overtown, 10th St. NW & 2nd Ave.) Wednesdays
                                                              - Pinecrest (5855 SW 111th St.) Sundays
                                                              - Coral Gables (405 Biltmore Way) Saturdays

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                                                                lulydonikian RE: Frodnesor Feb 7, 2011 03:08 AM

                                                                Never been to Coral Gables, but I have been to the Overtown Market, and Pinecrest there is also the one in Liberty City I am planning to this Thursday. Overtown is great but more limited than the Pinecrest one but the veggies are great.

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                                                                  miaedu RE: lulydonikian Feb 7, 2011 06:57 PM

                                                                  The Liberty City farmers’ market has a new home from now though April 2011!

                                                                  Still every Thursday from noon to 6pm, about 10 blocks west of original location, new address is:

                                                                  African Heritage Cultural Arts Center
                                                                  6161 NW 22nd Ave
                                                                  Miami, Florida 33142
                                                                  305-638-6771
                                                                  www.urbanoasisproject.org

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                                                              miaedu RE: MIAfromSFO Feb 7, 2011 07:09 PM

                                                              South Miami Farmers Market
                                                              City Hall
                                                              6130 Sunset Drive, South Miami

                                                              Saturday 9 am – 2 pm

                                                              http://earth-learning.org/index.php?o...

                                                              1. taiga RE: MIAfromSFO Feb 10, 2011 11:14 AM

                                                                Some Farmer's Market history:

                                                                http://measuringmiami.blogspot.com/

                                                                1. RebeLeeous RE: MIAfromSFO Jul 31, 2011 03:50 PM

                                                                  Does anyone know where the farmer's market from Jackson Hospital moved to while they do construction at the hospital? Also, which is the best one to get edible flowers (or best place if you know of a really good nursery or flower shop that carries more than the typical popular plants)..I'm looking for zucchini flowers, pumpkin flowers, marigolds, borage, and elder (both the berry and the flower)..Also looking for Juniper berries..

                                                                  Also, what about u-pick farms? I only know of one left..I thought it was criminal when they paved over the old strawberry field out in horse country..the politicians in that area are a disgrace bending over backwards for developers. What they are doing to the ranchers is shameful at best.

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                                                                    Mike Moskos RE: RebeLeeous Jul 31, 2011 06:34 PM

                                                                    As far as I know, they just closed Jackson during construction; it didn't move.

                                                                    For edible flowers, I've seen them regularly at Josh's in Hollywood (Sundays only) and a few times at Overtown (closed for the season). You might have more luck stopping by one of the community gardens on a weekend; maybe someone will let you have/buy some of the vegetable flowers.

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                                                                      Frodnesor RE: RebeLeeous Jul 31, 2011 09:22 PM

                                                                      Here's a good (other than the Comic Sans font) and apparently fairly current listing of u-picks ->

                                                                      http://www.pickyourown.org/FLsoutheas...

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                                                                        RebeLeeous RE: RebeLeeous Aug 7, 2011 01:32 PM

                                                                        Thank you for the info guys..I know the one at Jackson was looking for a new temp location, just wasn't sure if they actually found one or not..I'll definately have to try hitting up the community gardens..thanks again to both of you :)

                                                                      2. CFByrne RE: MIAfromSFO Aug 7, 2011 05:10 PM

                                                                        As a bit of a side note... if you are into gardening - organic or otherwise...

                                                                        This is the time to start thinking about planting in So Fla.

                                                                        Of course it's way too hot for almost anything to grow NOW.

                                                                        But you'll want to have plants such as tomatoes in the ground sometime around Oct 1. So if you want to garden - look for info now.

                                                                        Community Garden meetings are starting up...

                                                                        The time to think about veggies in FL isn't January when you see all that bounty -- but in August, when you can prepare.

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