Psst... We're working on the next generation of Chowhound! View >
HOME > Chowhound > Food Media & News >
Sep 10, 2007 01:27 PM

Overly salty meat results in arrest [moved from Not About Food board]

OK, this is just crazy - why wasn't the supervisor arrested instead of the worker? But more to the point, why was *anyone* arrested? And criminal charges? Stupid waste of taxpayer's money.

  1. Click to Upload a photo (10 MB limit)
  1. Something wrong with that story. McDonald's patties are made in a factory.

    30 Replies
    1. re: Robert Lauriston

      Apparently they salt on the grill, or at service. This is one of the worst stories ever of a police force over stepping its bounds.

      1. re: phneale

        If the judge doesn't throw this case out, there is no justice.

        That cop should be fired for abusing his power and showing extremely poor judgement. How is he treating other people? That woman should find herself a good lawyer and sue.

        1. re: rworange

          But the donut jockey who put extra icing on his donut is his pal.

          1. re: rworange


            It was a deliberate act. You don't pull ANYthing like that on a Peace Officer. If she gets away with it, it opens the door for all kinds of abuse on Law Enforcement.

            1. re: Cathy

              If "Peace Officers" don't have the good sense to spit out over-salted food like the rest of us mere mortals, they deserve whatever they get! This cop needs his attitude adjusted.

              1. re: pikawicca

                They also took the rest as evidence.

                It was a deliberate act. It cannot be tolerated. There are laws regarding this.

                Even if not against a Peace Officer, I don't want anyone who works in a fast food place to think they can "accidentally" do this and get away with it.

                1. re: Cathy

                  Pleeeeeaasssseee! Maybe it was an affront -but a crime?? Give me a break. I am an attorney and I will represent her for free! She did not know it was a police officer and when she spilled the salt- well you know the brains of adolescents are not fully developed!

                  1. re: emilief

                    "She said she didn't know a Police Officer got one of the burgers because she could not see the drive through window".

                    This implies she would *not* have given one to a Police Officer.

                    But maybe a bag of burgers for you to drive home to take to your family would have been OK? Then you would have to drive back, get an apology and maybe some free burgers...while you family sits at home, hungry...and how many people would not drive and bring back the burgers? How long could this go on?

                    Only because she said she did not know the food was going to a Police Officer did she not get additionally charged with assault on a Law Enforcement Officer.

                    She will be found guilty of reckless conduct.

                    1. re: emilief

                      emilief - go you. seriously - i applaud you!

                    2. re: Cathy

                      Get a grip! Salt is not poisonous. If there's too much of it in your food, don't eat it! If you get egregiously over-salted food, the restaurant should offer to replace it or refund your money. This is NOT an assault.

                      1. re: pikawicca

                        Let's try this scenario: You are a working mom. You have hungry kids at home. It is $1 burger night and you drive through, order 8 burgers and fries and drive home (10 minutes). The burgers smell wonderfil inthe car and you have sneaked a few fries while driving. WIth me?

                        You get home, hand the bags to the kids, and go to change clothes. One child bites into his burger and spits it out, grabs another ad it is also way overly salted. The other child has the same reaction. You are tired, hungry and frustrated. Each child has now taken a bite out of 8 burgers and spit them all out.

                        You are either going to have to drive back, with the burgers and hungry kids, after changing clothes, or say forget about it, toss $10+ out the window and go somewhere else, closer to home...and in either case wonder if what they did was deliberate and if they would do it again....and if you could do anything else besides complain and/or not go there again?

                        Nip this in the bud, make an example of her and it will not happen to anyone else ever.

                        It isn't frivolous. She did break the law.

                        1. re: Cathy

                          "It isn't frivolous. She did break the law." Do they have Anti-Oversalting statutes? Oh come on - clerk/cook made a mistake - the supervisor should have pitched the burgers

                          Mickey D made its rep on reprducability - same lousy taste all over the country - the bosses must have had a stroke reading that over-salted burgers were sold.

                          The cop should have gotten a ten day rip for stupidity

                          1. re: Cathy

                            " She did break the law."

                            You are so completely off-base. She did NOT break the law.

                              1. re: Cathy

                                I repeat - why wasn't the supervisor arrested as well? Ultimately he or she made the decision to continue to serve the hamburger meat with the salt. I agree with pikawicca and rworange - the "Peace officer" should have just spit it out and that the police office abused his power and he has a very poor sense of judgement. I truly hope the judge throws this case out. This is just as stupid as the consumer who sued McD's for hot coffee burning her because she had an open container between her legs while driving and it spilled.

                                Just. Plain. Stupid.

                                1. re: Cathy

                                  "Reckless conduct" with a salt shaker?

                              2. re: Cathy

                                Cathy- Exactly what will never happen again if this young woman is made an example of?

                                1. re: Cathy

                                  Will making an "example" of this girl really make fast food workers worldwide commit heart and soul to their soulless jobs, and inspire them to aspire to faultless seasoning of the alleged meat pucks? Her manager decided it was fine, why would she take it upon herself to challenge him/her? If you are working for someone with such shoddy standards and shady practices, would you feel like it was worthwhile to challenge them?

                                  1. re: Cathy

                                    state the law she broke. State it on record in the exact form it was enacted and then the rest of us will believe this ridiculious rant.

                                    1. re: Cathy

                                      The only reckless conduct in your scenario is feeding your kids this CRAP... If anyone should go to jail, it should be you for buying this stuff and setting a bad example for your kids.

                                      If over salted burgers are a crime, every Burger King employee should be put in jail.

                                      1. re: Cathy

                                        cathy as per the scenario you described.......if my kids got oversalted burgers i'd hope that would put them off fast food. i would then hand them two peices of bread, a slice of cheese and perhaps a slice of ham, a couple of carrot sticks and pronounce it dinner.

                                        big deal, the cop got an oversalted burger. lesson learned. fast food can be really gross.

                                    2. re: Cathy

                                      How do YOU know it was a deliberate act? Were you there?

                                      She said she accidentally spilled salt on the meat. The supervisor try to "knock the salt off" but chose to make the worker use it. The worker had no idea the police officer was getting a salty burger - she had no idea who was ordering at the drive-thru window.

                                      Again - why was the WORKER arrested but not the supervisor?

                                      1. re: LindaWhit

                                        She knew SOMEBODY would be getting salty burgers (and there were multiples, since she said she ate one), therefore deliberately let salty burgers go out, therefore reckless conduct.

                                        Worker *says* supervisor knew. If supervisor denied and worker was the only one who admitted, that was the reason only the worker was arrested.

                                        Worker denied knowing customer was Law Enforcement, therefore was not *additionally* charged with assault on Law Enforcement.

                                        1. re: Cathy

                                          The supervisor has the ULTIMATE responsibility - not a minimum wage employee. Your "if the supervisor denied" is completely unknown.

                                          1. re: LindaWhit

                                            There would be grounds for arrest of anyone who admitted to reckless conduct.

                                            Worker admitted, worker was arrested.

                                            The only person who said the supervisor knew was the worker, after she was out on bail.

                                            1. re: Cathy

                                              My God, why are you so insistent on blaming a minimum wage worker for a mistake? As vvvindaloo said below - bogus arrest, just because the police officer was pissed off he got served a salty burger with no malicious intent.

                                              From Robert's link below:

                                              "If it was too salty, why did [the officer] not just take one bite and throw it away? Why did he take eight bites and finish it and come back later and say it made him sick?"

                                              She said she told her supervisor and another co-worker she spilled the salt on the burger. "They tried to thump the salt off," she said.

                                              Then she went on break and ate a burger made from the oversalted meat. "It didn't make me sick," she said.

                                              Meanwhile, the restaurant went ahead and served the extra salty Big N' Tasty to the police officer, said Bull. A few minutes later the officer, Wendell Adams returned to the restaurant and told the manager he got sick from eating the burger."
                                              He ate EIGHT bites of the burger. And the restaurant served the burger to him. Not her. Why are you completely discounting what she says and absolutely believing the police officer and disregarding the fact he ate MOST of the burger?

                                              If it is proven that there is an additional substance that actually made him sick, fine. Then someone should be responsible for that - but how can it be proven that this young woman did that, if there is another substance?

                                              And if all there is found is salt, then the cop is just plain freakin' stupid for eating the majority of a burger that is overly salty.

                                              1. re: Cathy

                                                Hilarious ... unless you are not just teasing the hounds ... I dunno ... maybe she was incorrectly charged ... shouldn't it have been a-salt & battery?

                                                "Nip this in the bud, make an example of her and it will not happen to anyone else ever."


                                                And I've never used that before ... but funny, funny, funny. I know I'll feel more confident in the future that I won't get an over-salted burger because of the example set by this case.

                                                I wonder if this was a real story or some sort of spoof. Can you imagine getting an over-salted burger, trotting over the police station and asking them to send it to the crime lab for analysys?

                                                And what are the chances of someone with the name Bull getting arrested for burger misconduct? If it is a true story, the woman should use the money she wins in the lawsuit to open her own fast food joint ... Bull's burgers.

                                                  1. re: rworange

                                                    I read it in the Washington Post, so its probably a real story.

                                                  2. re: Cathy

                                                    You should listen to the many voices of reason arrayed against you. Over salting of food is in no way, shape, or form reckless conduct. It's bad cooking.

                                2. "Union City Police public information officer George Louth said Saturday that police talked to Bull and other store employees who told them Bull knew the burger 'wasn't properly prepared.' He said she was charged with the misdemeanor reckless conduct because she served it anyway 'without regards to the well-being of anyone who might consume it.'"

                                  Doesn't serving McDonald's hamburgers always require a suspension of concern for the well-being of the customers?


                                  2 Replies
                                  1. re: Robert Lauriston

                                    I assume the cop never saw "Super Size Me."

                                    1. re: Robert Lauriston

                                      Thank you. I've been pondering just that idea since I first read of this remarkable story. The saturated and transfats are no problem...just the salt on this particular burger.

                                    2. The original comment has been removed
                                      1. I honestly do not see how any amount of spilled salt *that has been shaken off* could possibly make anyone "sick". The P.O. was probably annoyed that he got an overly salted burger, and went to complain- then got really mad when he found out that someone's knowing mistake had been the cause. What a bogus arrest, and an even more bogus waste of taxpayer dollars and law enforcement authority. If anything, the owner of the restaurant should be fined, and the supervisor dealt with in turn, by his own employer. The worker was actually the least unlawful actor in this whole scenario- her act was one of mistake (no malicious intent) and her consumption of the product to no ill effect takes "reckless conduct" off the table, as reckless conduct requires a possibility of serious bodily injury. The idea of assault is too silly to consider, given the facts. The cop, on the other hand, may be guilty of false arrest. Add me to the list of attorneys who are really disgusted by this story.

                                        1. The cop should be arrested for stupidity. I am left of left... and can't believe the level of whining & victim attitude among some posters who are trying to criminalize this minimum wage, minimum trained employee. Give me a break.... overly salty food is one of the normal risks we take in everyday life... if people think its too much... and want to be coddled like little babies then they can cook their own food... see if THEY never over salt it!