Driving out to Petrillo's...what should I order?
Finally making the trek out from West Hollywood to SGV for pizza. I haunt Vito's, Village, Lamonica's, and Mozza, so I'm anxious to see how pizza out there stacks up. My questions:
Does it matter which location I go to?
Should I order the regular or request thin crust? I've seen posts where people argue for each.
Any toppings I need to get besides the sausage?
I believe that a pizza should able to stand on cheese alone (Casa Bianca fails such a test), so I'm planning on getting a cheese pizza and something with toppings. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks.
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I go to the Glendora location about once a month and order their Speciality Pizza (no different crust request). Not sure what's happening in the kitchen, but the last 3 pies have been a bit off. The most recent visit (last weekend) the crust was very hard, toppings were spot on. The time before that - the meats were WAY too greasy (which NEVER has been the case). Prior to that pie, the toppings were extremely skimpy. But, the pie prior to that and others were absolute heaven. Perfect crust consistancy (enough dough for substance with the bottom firm enough to withstand all the toppings - without being too hard) - abundant meats, etc. My love of those perfect pies have me going back... but I'm starting to wonder what's going on in the kitchen.
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re: The Oracle
The only good thing I've ever noticed about the Glendora outlet compared to the one in SG (other than its proximity to Donut Man) is that they take greater care to distribute the toppings uniformly, whereas SG throws them around haphazardly, like the boss is on permanent vacation.
Both outlets are mediocre IMHO -- decent crust when ordered "thin" but a strong taste of stale, cheap spices in many of the toppings, green peppers that aren't cooked beforehand to bring out texture and flavor, and really foul mushrooms that should be marked "for animal use only," ... Unfortunately for us animals, Petrillo's is among the better pizza places in Southern California.
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SAVE YOURSELF FROM THE BRAIN DAMAGE & WASTE OF TIME/MONEY. JUST ATE PIZZA (WHOLE PIE) AT PETRILLO'S IN GLENDORA (SGV). THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY.
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re: CQB
Valentino's really is fantastic! A few years a go I worked in Manhattan Beach and we would have it for lunch all the time. Great sauce and thin crust! I used to have them par-bake it for me so I could take it back to West Hollywood and still have hot, perfect pizza after Ii got home. Definitely worth the trip for NY pizza lovers!
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Maybe this doesn't need to be stated, but the pizza at Petrillos is thoroughly American, by which I mean that it is heavy, greasy, and extremely limited in terms of available toppings. This is a far, far cry from the range of pizzas that you get in Italy or in serious Italian restaurants (rather than Italian-American ones). The menu looks pretty much exactly the same as other Italian(American) restaurants of this ilk, and the atmosphere, while fine, also leads towards the stereotypical.
I went there yesterday with my family and was unimpressed by the blaring Harry Connick Jr. and the faux-leather booths, not what you want to be sitting on when the weather outside is 105 degrees. The food was fine, perhaps a few millimeters better than Domenicos on Washington Blvd in Pasadena, which is close to where I live, but not quite as good as Casa Bianca, which is close to my work.
I guess I would just prefer artisinal Italian pizza/food any day of the week to this terribly homogeneous version of Italian food that seems to be found all over this country. The Italian chow that I crave is creative and seasonal. Salads are made with the freshest local ingredients and dressings do not come out of a bottle. Pizza's are airy and chewy, with a huge range of potential sauces, cheeses, and toppings. The wine, I think it goes without saying, should be superb and varied.
A number of people commented in the "Best Pizza in SGV" post that they noted the lack of Chinese residents of San Gabriel in Petrillos. I have to admit, I wasn't surprised. Why would you go to Petrillos when you could go to any of the incredible, regional, subtle Chinese and Vietnamese restaurants in the same neighborhood? The only reason I can think of is childhood nostalgia for restaurants like Petrillos rather than any particular delight in the food.
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re: altadenafoodguy
Of course. Love for many, many places is firmly based in nostalgia. Also, there are so many different styles of pizzas out there and even more tastebuds, so no one is right or wrong!
Last night several of us descended upon Bollini's Authentic Neapolitan Woodfire Pizza in Monterey Park for a tasting. I have to say it was phenomenal! Very thin crust, sparingly, but deliciously topped and charred in places (I would have preferred the pizzas even more well done, but that is my preference). The pizzas were absolutely fantastic as were the pastas we had and the salads (we had 6 pizzas, 3 salads, 3 pastas, 1 fish dish, 1 appetizer and dessert). They have been there for about a month and just got the space next door last week, so they plan on expanding soon (which is good, because look out if you are sitting near that oven!!). Look out for PleasurePalate's review (w/pics as always). It will make your mouth water!!2315 S Garvey Avenue
Monterey Park, CA 91754
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re: WildSwede
Swede,
I believe Bollini's is at 2315 South GARFIELD Avenue (not Garvey).
Just in case it matters to anyone ...
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re: WildSwede
Killer stuff... even when cooled a bit. The cauterized sauce on the upper 1/5th (nearest the crust) tastes less tomato-like and more vinegar-winey when coagulated by time. Unfortunately, they ran out of pasta and salad when we arrived @ 9PM, a full hour before they supposedly close. Chef said that they started shutting down because the place was empty an hour before. Funny, it was full when I was there... Either way, Chef Chris gave me a personalized coupon for 1/2 off my next visit--written and autographed on receipt paper. What a bad-ass.
Overall, agree 100% with WS' review. Used to frequent mulberry, nicky d's, etc. This is the best.
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re: altadenafoodguy
(in reply to Altadenafoodguy - I hit the wrong reply link) I happen to like Petrillo's but I understand your points about the limited cuisine. However, when you ask why anyone would go to Petrillo's instead of the Chinese and Vietnamese places, well.. it's all about variety of cuisines. While you do get variety with the various types of Chinese or Vietnamese food, that's like saying why would you want to go to In-N-Out (which is as basic as can be), one of the many Mexican places in the SGV, etc. Some days, nothing but a pizza will do. I think Petrillos is basic, but what they do, they do very well.
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re: monkuboy
Agreed, but this is about pizza, not a search for unlimited cuisine, or even unlimited pizza toppings (like cucumber). What about the reference to artisanal Italian style pizza when the discussion is about Petrillo's American pie? It seems to not be anymore relevant than artisanal foods of Hamburg and Frankfurt entering into a talk about burgers and dogs at Carney’s.
The idea about childhood nostalgia has been applied to Casa Bianca here before but to explain Petrillo’s popularity it is way off. When you consider that only Petrillo’s, unlike any other local pizza joint mentioned here, has expanded to three locations, with long lines of young people buying pizza at each new location, it is clear that the reason is the product. The quality of the ingredients which manifest in the flavor and texture of the crust and toppings, and you actually getting your monies worth, is why Petrillo’s has grown – it’s the pizza.
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re: JeetJet
If you want real "Italian" pizza then go to Italy; if you want real "New Yawk" pizza, then go to New Yawk. Like I said, Petrillo's does what it does very well - why does it have to be like something else in order for it to be good? Pizza is subjective, but the popularity of Petrillo's on the CH board would indicate to me that they're doing something right. Why does something have to be "authentic" in order to taste good? I don't think Petrillo's ever claimed to be 'authentic."
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re: monkuboy
monkuboy, the point I am trying to make is not that the pizza is "inauthentic" - it's that it is completely bland and utterly similar to thousands of other bland pizza joints that thrive, for reasons that are hard for me to understand, all across the U.S. Why is it that the toppings are so limited in these places? We are surrounded by farmers who could provide all kinds of fresh ingredients? Why is it that it always has to be the same pepperoni, sausage, canned mushrooms, etc.? I'm not saying that this isn't real Italian pizza, I'm drawing the comparison because it illustrates, I think, the faults with this kind of pizza. I'm 100% into imaginative fusion cooking, messing around with tradition, and doing the non-P.C. thing in a restaurant. I could care less about authenticity. What I care about is taste.
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re: altadenafoodguy
Well I guess we have to agree to disagree then, because Petrillo's is one of my favorites. I can tell the difference between a Petrillo's pizza and the other ones I've tried, and I would not put them in the same class as the many bland pizza joints (I agree with you there - far too many) that exist. Also, I think that while there are plenty of things you can put on a pizza, many of us keep moving back to the same list because they seem to work well. It's kind of like you can put a bunch of things on a hamburger but most folks will gravitate back to a shorter list of favorites. Also, the economics of offering a wide variety of toppings is in itself a hindrance - if people don't order them, they'll spoil. I guess our tastes are different, but that's what keeps all these restaurants in business, huh?
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re: altadenafoodguy
You asked, Why would you go to Petrillo’s when you could go to Chinese / Vietnamese restaurants in the same neighborhood? I have been thinking about that question and since this thread is about pizza....
I have had meals at more Chinese / Vietnamese places along Valley Blvd., SGV than I care to admit. Only two, maye three I return to. So, I really have to flip that question. Why would you go to a Chinese / Vietnamese place when you could go to Petrillo’s in the same neighborhood? For example, dumplings. Buy $25 worth and take them apart. Compare the small pile of...? pork hash? And the pasta wrappers to a Petrillo’s pizza. Compare the amount and quality of meat and cheese to that small pile of...?. For that matter, order $25 dollars worth of ravioli and compare. The first thing you would notice is the wonderful sauce that Petrillo’s puts on the food. The dinner bread is outstanding. All you get with dumplings is the water that was once steam. Petrillo’s is simply one of the best food values in the SGV – food quality, amount, and price.
Stack $12 worth of In’n Out Cheese Burgers next to $12 of dumplings – nuff said. What it gets down to is what do you feel like eating and how much are you willing to pay for it?
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In pizza I look for a tender but firm crust of thin or medium thickness, tomato sauce, where appropriate, that tastes fresh (especially, not metallic), ample real cheese but not so much that the fillings stew into mush rather than bake, and fresh-tasting meat and vegetable flavors, without the stale seasonings common to the low-end chains.
I tried Petrillo's on Valley Blvd. this afternoon for the first time and had a regular-crust pepperoni, Italian sausage, and mushroom pizza. The crust had the right thickness and very good but not exceptional texture and flavor. The tomato sauce was also above average, and I appreciate that, because so many places are careless with the sauce. Just about the right amount, too. The cheese was okay but lacked much flavor. As noted elsewhere, Petrillo's uses canned mushrooms. There's nothing wrong with that, but you really need to saute the mushroom slices in olive oil (preferably with oregano or rosemary) until browned lightly, to improve the texture and flavor and turn them into little sponges that will soak up flavor and excess moisture as the pizza bakes. These mushrooms had obviously jumped straight from the can to the pie, and I didn't care for their rubbery texture and canned flavors. The sausage was very nice -- excellent texture and flavor -- but I couldn't stand the pepperoni, which was overseasoned with unappealing spice, concealing whatever flavor the sausage meat might have had. (That might be the point.)
Finally, I applaud Petrillo's for not skimping on the meats and vegetables.
All in all a decent but not great pizza, at least to someone who favors the delicious stuffed pizzas of Chicago and the extraordinary thin-crust, white-clam variety that sustains New Haven and an estimated 98% of I-95 travelers between Boston and New York!
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re: sbritchky
You mentioned tomato sauce at least twice and finally close mentioning the favors of Chicago pizza. I thought that was whare you were heading when talking about tomato flavor. The only place near L.A. that I have found that tomato flavor, which seems to rule in Chacago, is at Taste Chacago. The pizza is just OK , not deep dish, but the sauce is a very good Chicago style sauce. That kind of sauce is diffrerent than NY style. A good NY sauce cannot be added on heavy becasue it will take over all flavor of the pie. IMO, that Chicago pizza sauce could be doubled until the pie is dripping with it and it would be just fine. But also, IMO, a Chicago deep dish is not pizza as known in any other city. It is a casserole, just like a layered lasagna, in a deep pie crust (as in apple pie crust) without any pasta but dripping in that great tomato sauce.
You think Petrillo's cheese was okay but lacked much flavor? I think it has a very clear, almost sour flavor. Maybe not sour but I love it and I think it is the same cheese used at Casa Bianca. I also think CB uses the same sausage as Petrillo's except at CB you get less than half the amount for a higher price all on top of a bad crust.
I wish all mushroom, bell pepper, oinion, tomato toppings were sauted in olive oil with oregano or rosemary. Now you are talking. That is how meatloaf should be made also. Maybe after they are done and removed then the meat toppings could be half cooked in the resulting sauce before put on top of the cheese. On the other hand, the sausage at Petrillo's is perfect as is.
Pretty good Combo beef / sausage sandwich at Taste Chicago.
http://www.tastechicago.biz/-
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re: ipsedixit
I agree and I never really order mushrooms when they are fresh because they go bad so fast (even at home). I get all ascade jus thinking about it. It would really hav-ta be a high volume Pizza Paula fo me to orda dem fresh mushrooms on my pie.
Also, see “Fresh vs. Canned” below. The next paragraph talks about frozen mushrooms. I wonder if some of what we think is canned could really be frozen. IMO, frozen french fries are better than fresh and maybe that holds true with mushrooms on pizza.
http://www.correllconcepts.com/Encycl...
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re: JeetJet
i'm curious about the sausage...i've commented on this before and i believe someone answered where the sausage came from - i thought CB had more of a fennel taste...i love the sausage at both locations. for me, the cheese at petrillo's is decent, when i take home, i grate some reggiano on top...perfection !!! i'm 1 week from my planned piiza pig-out - i'm shooting for 7 locations / 7 slices...but i might make it to 8 !! i will post pics of all !
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re: kjs
In over four decades of loving the perfect flavor and texture of the sausage used by Petrillo's on their pizza I have recognized it at only three other places. Casa Bianca and Pizza Place California each put a small amount of small pieces on their pies. These two places also use a cheese very similar in quality and flavor as used by Petrillo’s but in a much smaller amount. The major difference is the poor cracker dough crust at Casa Bianca and the high prices at both of these places compared to what you are given for your money at Petrillos. Taste Chicago makes a pretty good Itallian Beef / Sausage Combo sandwich on a good roll using a large link sausage with the same flavor and texture as the large chunks (not slices) of sausage on the Petrillo’s pie .
I look forward to your post. Please take notes on flavor and texture of; 1, crust, 2, sauce, 3, cheese, 4, toppings (if you try the same toppings). Have a ball.
Petrillo's Pizza Restaurant and take-out
833 E Valley Blvd
San Gabriel, CA 91776
(626) 280-7332Casa Bianca Pizza Pie
1650 Colorado Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90041-1436
(323) 256-9617Pizza Place California
303 S Mission Dr
San Gabriel, CA 91776
(626) 570-9622Taste Chicago
603 N Hollywood Way (corner of Hollywood Way & Verdugo)
Burbank CA 91505
(818) 563-2800
http://www.tastechicago.biz/-
re: JeetJet
hey all,
just tried Petrillo's and it was not great at all.
This is what I ordered:
Cheese pizza, thin crust, and medium size, and asked to cut it pie style.
yest, still it wasn't great at all, Casa Bianca is better (and i'm not even bianca's biggest fan).
i do like taste chicago's square slices. not real pizza, but real tastey.
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re: Skunk2Racer
The more I think about it the more I realize that I liked the sausage and really disliked the pepperoni and canned mushrooms. (At least the way Petrillo's prepares their mushrooms. I also agree with another poster that small buttons are superior to large slices when you use the canned variety.) I'll try the place again for a sausage, sauce, and cheese and see where that leads. By the way, if fresh mushrooms turn into chips in your homemade pizza, then you're overcooking them in the fry pan. I like to overcook them slightly but then throw in a small splash of white wine or chicken stock, which the mushrooms absorb readily.
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re: sbritchky
It all depends on how thin or thick you slice your mushrooms. For Me the canned mushrooms petrillo's uses are fine by me. i also Enjoy the Mushroom Pizza at Lamonicas in westwood, they use thin slices of fresh mushrooms so tasty you don't need any meat.....WTF did I just say you don't need Meat? Must be the heat.....LOL But to each his or her own. When I sautee mushrooms I perfer using Red wine or Beef Bullion. That is what I enjoy. Well Try it again and Enjoy
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re: kevin
Hi All,
Just went to Petrillo's for the very first time...What a disappointment. My family and I were there on a Sunday (4/13/08) at around 5:30 PM. It must be at least 80 degrees inside...uncomfortably warm. All three of us ordered pasta. To our surprise, all the pasta dishes were drown in sauce. I mean a lot of sauce (soup!).
What is worse is the service. It is very rare that I check my bill but it just happened that I saw a "2" on the drink order when we only ordered one. When questioned, the server did not apologize and even questioned us as we had made the mistake. The server came back with the new bill and said nothing to us...What an attitude! I am believer that patrons do not need to put us with bad service. I will need to find another local pizzeria as my family will never visit this place again!
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re: keithlca
Sorry to hear about your experience. I've only taken out pizzas from Petrillos and have never eaten anything but their pizzas. I think most Petrillo fans would tell you to order the pizza rather than anything else on the menu and if you dine in, all bets are off. Sunday was a horrible day in L.A. (especially the SGV) with temps in the mid-90's. They could probably cook a pizza on the sidewalk. I wouldn't go to Petrillos for anything other than a takeout pizza. That said, theirs is one of the best I've had.
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re: keithlca
Like monkuboy, I've never eaten anything other than pizza from Petrillo's, and I've only ever had take-out. I don't think that they're known for their pasta dishes - it's the pizza that's incredible (no matter how you have them cut it).
Sorry you had lousy service - but, please, consider ordering a pie or two to-go at some point.
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re: SoCal Foodie
That's actual size, right? Like 2" x 2"? Haha.. those pizzas are huge and weighty. The only other place I've found that has pizzas that are as loaded with stuff and heavy like that is Angelo's in Alhambra. Compare that to stuff from Dominos where you have to open the box to make sure they put the pizza in it..
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re: sbritchky
Made the trek from the valley to Petrillo's on Valley Blvd today. I ordered thin crust, 1/2 sausage, 1/2 sausage/green peppers/mushrooms. The crust was not really thin but more a smashed down version of their regular crust. My immediate thought after biting into the slice was the sauce seemed a a tad too tomatoey -- not enough zip, more of a flat flavor. The italian sausage was a step up from the normal sausage on most pizzas out here. But again, it was a little less robust than my taste. I do not think it is the same as Casa Bianca - Casa Bianca has more fennel seeds and flavor. I liked the sausage/cheese combo more than the other side. As mentioned earlier, all the extra ingredients weigh down the crust. While it is better than the average pizza out here, it still falls into the mddle of the pack for me. I still prefer Casa BIanca any day. As a former Chicagoan, it lacked the "punch" I look for in pizza. Taste Chicago pizza/pizza sauce does not come close to Chicago pizza even though it's a Chicago place. Given many comments have been made regarding square cuts vs pie cut -- in Chicago, all pizzas were cut into square. The only pie cut was NY pizza which was almost non-existent.
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re: sloanedone
My kind of ordering!! Glad you enjoyed it! I took P. there for the first a month or so ago and we REALLY liked it. It's still NOT the thin style of his youth (Pizzeria Regina in boston) and for that reason we still perfer Vitos, however, as you noted the toppings really impressed him and the other overall feel reminded him so much of his old neighborhood red sauce italian places :)
--Dommy!
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re: sloanedone
sloanedone. Your post several nights ago has had a substanital impact. IF what we read is true then more than a handfull of Hounds left cooler areas of L.A. to drive into the HOT SGV (well over 100 degrees) to have a Hot pizza this weekend at Petrillos and report there impressions here. I am glad you liked your pizza. Petrillo's also makes a great dinner bread that they give you when you order a dinner there.
Now, if I could just invest in the next place you decide to go to, before you post about your plans.....
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re: sloanedone
Hey, Pizza Moses. I think you mean Tony's Little Italy. That place is far beyond the spot where WildSwede lost his sandals during his pizza trek to Bollini's. So take water along because you might get as thirsty as that Petrillo’s pie leaves people to be.
Try a stuffed pie with sausage and what ever else your like. I have had enough Deep dish in Chicago to have observed that what makes this type of pie seem so good in Chicago is the amount of beer that can be consumed while waiting for it to bake. IMHO, the more beer the more liked is the pie.
When you come back from the mountain I pray that you have two tablets in your hands – “Plop, Plop, Fizz, Fizz...”
Tony's Little Italy – try a stuffed pie and IMO that is as close as you will get to a Chicago style deep dish in L.A.
808 N Placentia Ave., Unit B
Placentia, CA 92870
(714) 528-2159
http://www.tonyslittleitaly.com/-
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re: kevin
I went to Chicago Pasta House once and thought it to be good (we are talking about thicker pies then normally found out West). However, I really have a bias against these thicker pies because I suspect it to be a ploy created by that Uno guy in Chicago. I idea is to make the customers think it takes longer to bake which translates into higher beer sales during the wait, which means happier customers – even when the food is crap. But hey...., for all I know maybe that is what all pizza is about.
Below is a little post about CPH with a reply from a Chicago hound looking for these pies like the ones that they remember when.... I really think that all memory fails over time when it comes to food. Sometimes something can seem OK to good for a long time but once it is gone, “Wow, I didn’t know what I had till it was gone.” Then is “SEEMS” better than it actually was and no one can ever do it as good as they had it before...
http://www.chowhound.com/topics/88855
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All Petrillo's pizzas are made with a medium thick crust (not thick – not thin). If you want a thin or thick crust you must request it when you place your order. The small and medium pizza are made in the traditional circle shape but the medium pizza will get cut into squares unless you request “pie cut.” The large is a very large rectangle which always gets cut in to squares.
I always request thin crust and pie cut, pepperoni and sausage. Some people like the Petrillo's special. The special has several meats (pepperoni, sausage, ham – not sure?) and bell peppers, onion, canned mushrooms – maybe more? I find that all that oil and moisture from all those toppings can make the crust a little moist -- but maybe a flavorful moist.
I MO the food is the same at all three locations but I like the San Gabriel location most for the ambiance both inside and outside. The Upland location has no dinning room.
Petrillo's Pizza Restaurant and take-out (plenty of seating)
833 E Valley Blvd
San Gabriel, CA 91776
(626) 280-7332Petrillo's Pizza Restaurant and take-out (Dinning room is not as large as San Gabriel location)
750 W Rte 66 Ste A
Glendora, CA 91740-4163
(626) 335-1289Petrillo's Pizza (Take-out only, NO dinning room)
110 South Mountain, Suite F
Upland, CA
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I assume everyone is referring to the location on Valley just east of San Gabriel Blvd (since you asked which location). Dont' confuse it with Mama Petrillo's which is on Las Tunas as they are not the same thing. Like Skunk2Racer I also recommend the Petrillo's Special - it's very hefty and very good. Even thought they use canned mushrooms, surprisingly they work well on the pizzas.
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Try the Petrillos Specialty, It's loaded with cheese, onions, peppers, sausage, pepperoni, salami, mushrooms. If you get a Medium or small ask for the "Pie Cut" Otherwise they cut it into funky squares. The Half & Half is good also it's a half order of spaghetti & Ravaoli....... Enjoy!
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