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Aug 25, 2007 01:12 PM

Truely good steak house and prime rib

I recognize our U.S. beef possibilities have diminished but will be in San Fran over the long labor day weekend and wish to hear rec about a good steakhouse for Saturday night. Thank you. Also was given two Chinese cuisine recs by Hotel Con...Tommy Toys and Chang Hi...any feedback is welcome. I am always skeptical of Hotel consing's ops...but perhaps? Have reviewed your many opinions and zeroed in on other food spots for what will be a 7 day stay. The steakhouse is still a hole.
Thank you.

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  1. Never heard of Chang Hi and searches only return one in Cupertino. Tommy Toys is not stright Chinese, its fusion. House of Prime Rib is quite nice. Alfred's is a great old school steak place.

    1. I agree with larochelle on both counts for beef. House of Prime Rib will be crowded on Saturday night. Make reservations and expect a wait, anyway.

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      1. re: Jack

        There is no wait if you don't mind eating slightly earlier such as 6 PM or before. We've been able to walkin early and get a spot right away for the past 5 times or so on a Saturday night.

        HOPR is great but inconsistent. On some days, it can be heaven and on others it can be good but not superb. The value is undeniable, but they've recently done a price raise which we noticed on the last visit.

      2. Re: Tommy Toy: The steak dish and lobster dish were the best, very expensive. Do not get the seafood soup with puff pastry dome. Looked great but all of us hated it and left it. We had a very nasty old waiter. When one person asked what kind of melon was with the shrimp and melon dish, he said "melon, don't you know what melon is?" I would have walked out after that snotty remark but I was with a group and did not want to make a scene. It turned out to be cantaloupe but could have been honeydew or watermelon, etc.
        The setting is very quiet and very beautiful.
        At House of Prime Rib there's no steak but I love the prime rib, etc. Very good value. If you want steak, Ruth's Chris is really excellent but the steak is great at Houston's for less $$ and free corkage.

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        1. re: walker

          Actually all my friends like that seafood soup with the puff pastry dome. Of course it's *not* Chinese food.


        2. I'm no steak expert, so others may have much better info. I like Acme Chophouse - but we usually split a rather small steak and eat the sides - my favorite part of a steak house. You need to check the SF Giants schedule if you are considering Acme, though - the restaurant is in the ballpark. I've not been to House of Prime Rib on Van Ness, but it is apparently THE spot for prime rib. I've been to a couple of banquets at Tommy Toy's - what are you looking for in terms of Chinese? Tommy Toy's is very attractive in terms of decor, but you can probably do much better elsewhere in terms of food.

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          1. re: dinnerout

            Thanks for the assistance re: steak houses. Does not seem to be big in San Fran as I only had a handful of replies. We will try either Alfred's or Houston's. Thank you and might even hit the House of Prime Rib besides. We're coming from the midwest and beef is in my blood. Excuse the pun.

            What am I looking for in terms of Chinese? Well, I agree Tommy Toy's seems excellent...but not necessarily looking for prim/proper decor or high prices. Have seen consistent reviews for Yank Sing as well as R & G Lounge. I love friied noodles so any place that does noodles well would be appreciated. I will undoubtedly just drop into any place for lunch in China Town. Lived in Japan for 5 years so can do without recs there as I have experienced excellence already and know it is hard to find great, affordable Japanese in U. S. Could eat Chinese everyday during the 7 day stay with the exception of a couple of steakhouses and oysters, oysters, oysters. Please feel free to pile on about good chinese although it seems to be something the board has already done. One last question...any reservations/hesitation about Pescheria on Church St.
            Thanks very much. I will report back...

            1. re: ellintl

              Steak and prime rib are not big local specialties.

              Houston's and Ruth's Chris are national chains, shame to waste a meal in San Francisco in a chain restaurant.

              SF-only steak places include Alfred's, Acme, and El Raigon. Topics comparing them with other steakhouses:


              1. re: ellintl

                I'm a huge steak person and Acme is really great... Very straight forward. They offer both grass- and grain-fed and the sides are excellent. I'm a mashed potatoes person, but their mac and cheese is addictive.

                1. re: adrienne156

                  I love Acme also and agree about the macaroni and cheese. Their steak is excellent and they also do a very good pork chop. I have been there many times before Giants games when they have been slammed and the service and food quality has remained top notch just as it is when they are not so busy. Reservations are a must especially on a game day.

                2. re: ellintl

                  I liked Pescheria on my visit. I had the butterfish in parchment and it was very well cooked and quite good. I wouldn't travel far for it, however. There are probably 7 other restaurants I would hit if I was coming in from out of town. If you are trying to fill a seafood slot I would prefer Taditch's or Aqua at the higher end. Or even the House in North Beach where the sea bass is one of the few seafood dishes I think about and crave. (The House is not a seafood restaurant, more asian-fusion)

              2. Harris' is another option for a great steakhouse. I'm a frequent steakhouse diner, and my favorites in SF are Alfred's (for old school ambience), Harris' (for really good steaks, in a more formal atmosphere), and Acme Chophouse (for grassfed beef in a little more casual environment). House of Prime Rib is good for prime rib, but doesn't offer any other options. Boboquivari's has a very nice steak, but IMO the prices are very high given the atmosphere (restaurant is in a Travelodge parking lot). I have also enjoyed Izzy's in the Marina for a casual and relatively inexpensive steak - best steak bang for your buck. Bob's Chophouse in the financial district is okay, but clearly not a "local's" place. Ruth's Chris I find to be overrated, is expensive and has a prom-like atmosphere; plus, it's a chain. Morton's steaks are mere okay, and you definitely feel like you're dining in a chain restaurant. I also had a great non-steakhouse filet mignon at Le Colonial, a Vietnamese restaurant near Union Square - but I think the chef has since changed so not sure if it's still as good.

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                1. re: kresge86

                  I looked up @ Harris', to the peeling ceiling. In keeping with the rest of the joint; looks like it hasn't been renovated since its '84 opening.

                  Gave the steak a B; dessert an A, something with cherries and apples. Service was good. Price was high. 2nd visit as yet unscheduled.