434755 Fri Aug 24 17:34:24 -0700 2007 3 2 Los Angeles Area 0 2879404 I lived in Munich for about 8 months, 47 years ago. I found several German food items that I liked, but my two favorites were cheapies that you could get in any Bavarian Gasthaus: 1) Gulashzuppe -- obviously related to Hungarian Goulash, but a very different animal: a spicy, meaty red/brown soup that was a bit like chili. VERY flavorful, and would warm you up on a cold night. 2) German camembert -- quite different from the real French thing. Rubbery, less inclination to ripen, and a delicious flavor of its own. I could get a bowl of zuppe, a wrapped Camembert, and a couple of semmels for about a buck. I found it all delicious and filling. I was back in Southern Germany about 10 years ago and found similar Gulashzuppe (just as I remembered it) but I have never seen it, or a comparable Camembert, anywhere in the US. Can anyone suggest where to find these items? Fri Aug 24 17:34:24 -0700 2007 59967 Tony Miller 1 2880542 Gulashzuppe (*): -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Red Lion Tavern - Silverlake - Goulash Soup (nice & spicy). http://www.redliontavern.net/sandwich.htm Old Vienna - Ventura - Gulaschsuppe http://www.oldviennarestaurant.com/dinner.htm Jagerhaus - Anaheim - Gulash Soup http://www.jagerhaus.net Camembert: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The above restaurants might have it? Not listed on their on-line menu. Any number of German Deli's would be your logical first quest location (they even might make some zuppe too?). Here's one to call: Alpine Village - Torrance http://www.alpinevillage.net/market.htm (*) I must have had the Goulsh Soup 50 times at Knoll's Black Forest, closed, so I have an idea what your talking about; however, theirs probably had a tinner broth than what you described. I haven't tried the Goulash soup at any of the above 3 locations. Red Lion Tavern lists theris as spicy, the other 2 might be spicy as well? Call & ask. Sat Aug 25 09:41:06 -0700 2007 2879404 11205 JBC 1 2880572 For the cheese: Try Artisan Cheese Gallery in Studio City. Or Whole Foods Or another good import cheese store. http://www.artisancheesegallery.com/ or order online from these people: http://www.germangrocery.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=GG&Product_Code=CH02 OR Try: ALPINE DELI GROCERY STORE 14423 Sherman Way Van Nuys, CA 91405 818-989-4902 Or one of the people featured on this page: http://www.germanfoods.org/consumer/germanfoodonweb.cfm The soup, I dunno. JBC has the best options. Sat Aug 25 09:58:21 -0700 2007 2879404 11201 Diana 1 2882775 While searching for the address of Mattern Sausage in Orange that my family swears by, I came across this link for German delis/bakeries, etc.. in LA and OC: http://www.californiadeutsche.com/Deli_Bakery_Market2.htm Sun Aug 26 10:25:01 -0700 2007 2879404 107331 chris1621