Carroll Gardens: New to the neighborhood. . .what are my staples?
- chowcito Aug 24, 2007 07:56 AM
Wine Shop (Currently digging Smith and Vine's $10 and under table)
Thai (Nine-D was pretty tasty)
Latin (Can be Mexican, South American, etc.)
Nice Dinner Out:
Heavy hitting neighborhood restaurants (Good wine, food and ambiance)
For casual meals, Frankie's 457 for really good Italian and Joya for solid, though unspectacular Thai. They both have great atmosphere, IMO.
General-purpose butcher: Los Paisanos, Smith @ Bergen (not Carroll Gardens, technically, but within walking distance)
Pork, sausage, prepared Italian dishes, etc.: Esposito & Sons, Court @ President
Wine shop: Smith and Vine is great, but try Scotto's on Court Street (b/w Degraw and Sackett) as well
Bakery/bread shop: Mazzola, Henry @ Union
Welcome to the neighborhood!
We bought some lard breads and a semolina twist from the new Cammerari/ Monteleone partnership on Court (very friendly, very nice place) and have been eating them all weekend wondering why we didnt go the 2 blocks to Mazzola instead. No comparison... very little taste from these. Oh well. Mazzola's, definitely.
Welcome to the neighborhood. Can't speak to every category, but here are some thoughts:
Wine shop: agree re Scotto's though I like Smith & Vine
Delivery: Em Thai, Zaytoons, Chicory & Pita Grill (for salads or turkey burgers) are my staples. Joya is good too but sometimes hard to get through on the phone.
Casual meals: Paninoteca, Cafe Cubana, Cube 63 (best sushi in hood in my opinion, a touch pricier than some but worth it) (all of the above deliver)
Nice dinner out: Lunetta is my favorite of late (not v. expensive, but a little pricier than most in the hood); Chestnut.
Good list from LJW.
Smith and Vine is my standby choice.
For delivery, I'd add Chance for dim sum, Layla Jones for pizza.
Casual meals, Chance works well too in this category. Sample for small plates of cheese, meats, wine.
Nice dinner - Lunetta is a favorite of ours too, but we also like the new Po, Frankies, Saul.
Burgers - I've had good ones at Apt 138, Bar Tabac, Waterfront.
Closest great steak i know of is Convivium Osteria, not a bad walk on a nice day.
Osaka on Court is worth checking out too. There have been some mixed reviews on here, but most of the bad reports are from people who don't like the sushi. But Osaka's strength is their prepared hot dishes. Go for the appetizers and entress and you'll see why they are a Michellin Recommended restaurant. (The sushi isn't bad, but it's not the best and a little too Americanized in portion size.)
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Just a word about Province en Boite. I went to their brunch recently. The food was really tasty--very fresh salad with nice lettuce, pancakes with fresh berries. But you'd better not be too hungry. The portions are delicately sized. I think you're supposed to order multiple courses.
Butcher: Staubitz has really great quality stuff and is closer to CG. Los Paisanos is good too, esp for wilder weirder stuff, but a longer walk. Esposito has AWESOME sopressata.
Wine Shop: Smith & Vine is a great wine geek wine store. The owners really know their stuff and can make really good recommendations, particularly with French wines. Agree that the $10 table rocks. My current fave is the CDR they've got out now. Scotto has a wider selection of California wines, but their selection is more hit or miss. Heights Chateau for Aussie and New Zealand wines.
Bread Shop: Mazzola is the best locally baked. Cobblestone foods carries Sullivan St Bakery breads, which are also very good.
I can't recommend any delivery in this hood -- CG is an eat out or cook neighborhood IMHO.
For casual, don't miss Lucali for the best pizza in NYC outside of Dom's, Paninoteca for great sandwiches, and Luluc's pulled pork sandwich.
For a nice dinner, we've really enjoyed Le Petite Crevette lately, despite their shitty service. It's BYOB and the grilled fish is fantastic. We also love Saul for the food, wine and atmosphere.
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Fresh Direct has better meat than Staubitz which is very over-rated - been there approx. 10 times and never had quality meat. Mazzola is inconsistent, but the best there is. Smith & Vine hands down over Scotto's. I never tried the sushi from Osaka but the beef dish I had tasted like dog food. Cafe Cubana is pitiful.
Good delivery - Joya (Thai), Savoila (pizza), Zaytoons (Middle Eastern), Chance (Chinese/French)
Eating out - Frankies 457, Fragole, Chestnut, Jolie, Saul and Grocery (Cobble)....Crave also used to be good to great (depending on night) in Carrol Gardens but haven't been in a while.
While I prefer Los Paisanos as posted, I can't see what you didnt like about Staubitz. Anything I've had there was always of high quality, especially their whole chickens from Canada.
I've only ever had sashimi and sushi at Osaka---my first visit was superb and where I first fell in love with white salmon. Second visit they seemed to be out of half of their fish on a thursday night and that seemed pretty odd...and therefore nothing seemed as good as the first visit. I agree that there's nothing that recommends visiting Cafe Cubana.
Joya, however, is about as overrated as it gets in our neighborhood. 'Em is really the only Thai worth having in the area.
Grocery and Jolie are also overrated and Chestnut, sadly, seems to be slipping.
Agree -- regretfully -- re Chestnut, had dinner there recently and the service and food weren't as wonderful as they usually are. However, I'm hoping that this might be a summer lull -- I'm not ready to give up on them yet. The set price Tues. and Wed. menus are still a great deal -- there are pricier places in the nabe w/ food and service that's subpar to even a bad night at Chesnut. I eat sushi and sashimi regularly at Osaka and find it consistently good and fresh. Nothing earth-shattering, but a good value for $.
We've recently re-discovered Bar Tabac and are really enjoying it -- after a few years of giving it a rest. Service is iffy but they seem to mean well, and the food is v. comforting.
We've always been Chestnut fans even when we lived in the city -- and are looking forward to the prix fixe offerings during the week now that we're so close.
Does anyone know what's going on with the "Farmer's Market" on Carroll? Is it there on a temporary basis or is it there to stay? Haven't seen anything worth stopping for yet. Anyone else have a different impression?
I feel these rumblings of Chestnut's demise are greatly exaggerated. Admittedly, I am a regular, but I have had several stellar meals there of late. There is a new pasta dish with clams, a delicious white wine sauce, chorizo and fresh herbs. A few weeks ago I enjoyed some of the best braised short-ribs I have ever had served alongside a mouth-watering potato gratin. The pansotti with chestnut filling, herbs, and braised shallots has been quite addictive. They even offered a Navy bean soup that hit the spot on a chilly night last week.
As Steve R mentioned in another thread, even the best of restaurants can have an off night. From my perch at the Chestnut bar, they are raising their food to a higher level of quality and execution. Don't miss out.
Don't forget Stinky Bklyn, a fairly new fabulous cheese shop, owned by same folks who own Smith & Vine, and diagonally across the street.
Chicory Brooklyn for Mac and Cheese terrine and Seitan rubens. Good fries too.
Crave for Tuna sandwiches, and excellent fries as well.
And don't miss Loucalli's.
for top notch pizza without all the pomp and circumstance go to Sam's on court street..consistently good for as long as i can remember ..in addition to the plain and pepperoni try the garlic- ricotta its killer......for slices, try ninos on union at or fascati in brooklyn heights if you want to take a walk
steak - cross the river to MarkJoseph
wine: in addition to scotto's, if you like italian wine go to the little store on henry st bet sackett and degraw
mazzola hands down for bread
Nice dinner out
I like Marco Polo on Court St. It's consistent with great service and atmosphere.
here are my recs:
butchers: los paisanos is good for most things, but avoid the sausages there, they're terrible. Staubitz for steak (try the newport--it's great) and hot dogs; Espositos for italian sausage
wine shop: love the $10 dollar table at smith and vine, but if you want to buy a case, scotto's does a nice discount, even for mixed cases. scotto's is also better for liquor, tho the best for this is leNell's in red hook.
bread: we use caputo's because it's most convenient, but i won't claim its the best (try the french country bread and the lard bread there) i think the best bread and bagels are at brooklyn bread (court and 1st--or is it second?)
delivery: none of the thai is great, but Nine-D is the best, though EM has a liquor license if you want to eat in and want some drinks. Chance is good and cheap if you stick to dim sum, apps, and sides, which are plenty big. Burgers--pit stop on columbia st. has the best in the area imho. Latin, skip cafe cubana and get delivery from el cibao or nuevo portal (i prefer cibao)--much cheaper and better. also, great delivery is hanco's on bergen--vietnamese sandwiches and stuff. Nicky's on atlantic is also vietnamese sandwiches but haven't tried them yet.
Casual meals: best steak is probably at bar tabac. I like the pasta at fragole on court street, tho the atmosphere isn't great. many of the pastas are homemade and good risotto. oh, and they have a good organic tuscan steak as well. zaytoons is decent but not great, tho the food is fresh. Lucali's pizza is wonderful--a must try. I think layla jones pizza is terrible, the sauce is like franco-american. If you want lots of decent italian american food, vinny's isn't bad. Frankie's 457 is hit or miss but they have good drinks and a nice garden. feel the same way about robin des bois. also have heard good things about Hibino on henry but haven't made it there yet.
nice dinner out: we leave the neighborhood, but others like some of the places on smith.
other things to know:
great rice balls at Joe's Perette on smith and 1st. try the proscuitto balls, they also have meat and plain cheese, both good. these make a great snack.
IMHO, the best slice is from sal's on court and degraw or the grandma slice from house of pizza and calzone, union between hicks and columbia. they are good for pizza delivery, too.
try the panelle sandwich at ferdinando's foccaceria, union between columbia and hicks.
hit sahadi's--a great store. some things are hit or miss, but many wonderful discoveries. Among the takeout things that are good are the spinach filo pies, the hummos, the taramasalata, the fried cauliflower, and any bean stew. they are the go to place for nuts, dried fruit, middle eastern goods.
farmer's market on sunday on carroll between court and smith. small but decent--right now great peaches and other things.
best sandwich/hero--i'm partial to brooklyn bread, but both esposito's and joe's perette do decent ones as well. i think they make a good veggie sandwich at good food further down court street but i've never actually ordered it myself, just had one at a party they catered.
anyway, welcome to the neighborhood!
wow, thanks for the detailed list!
we went to lucali's on sunday night and it's a great neighborhood spot...pizza and atmosphere were spot-on.
also made it to lenell's on friday. . .a great find however they're closing. i asked the cashier about plans to relocate and he said there were no plans as of yet. red hook gentrification rearing it's ugly head?
Largely because of this thread, I ate in Fragole last night. I'm glad I did. The decor, though quite nice, is generic young urban professional. The food is anything but! Homemade pasta with a rich, hearty lamb and olive ragu. Italian from Italy, not from Brooklyn. I though it was Emilia-Romana style though the owner disagreed (though he was too polite to contradict me) $12 for a great meal.
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Schnack sadly hasn't been edible in years and is going out of business soon. (Seriously, it really is closing.)
Ferdinando's is a gem. Panelle special is fantastic. The rice ball is pretty tasty, though not as good as at Joe's of Ave. U. Haven't had the pasta con sarde there yet.
House of Pizza across the street does a very tasty upside-down Sicilian and their deep-fried ham and cheese calzones are addictive, though I don't know I'd say they're good. They're like Cool Ranch Doritos to me ... ;)
5 years, and for the first year or so the burgers were pretty awesome especially at the price. But then they changed the bun and raised the price and suddenly it didn't feel so special anymore. I will forever love them for the Purple Cow though...black cherry soda milkshake, though I can do that on my own.
For a nice dinner out at casual meal prices, add Noodle Pudding to the list (though I haven't been in a while). I know that, at 38 Henry, it's a bit far afield. But the walk there from Carroll Gardens, along Clinton to Atlantic and then along Henry, is one of the most beautiful walks in New York. You can even make a quick detour to see the view of lower Manhattan from the Promenade and the stately old homes nearby.