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So what's new? (looking for Flushing Chinese, or any cuisine in JH/Elmhurst and Astoria)

Brian S Aug 23, 2007 11:53 AM

I've been away far too long (since December) but I'm back for a while. I don't have to tell you I will check out my old faves ... but what's new? The last meal I had in NY was at the just-opened Burmese Cafe. Has anything as good come along since?

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    seneca RE: Brian S Aug 23, 2007 12:26 PM

    There's a new Peruvian place called Urubamba in Jackson Heights, a description of which can be found here http://queens.about.com/b/a/217778.htm . Haven't been yet and haven't seen any reviews but maybe someone else has?

    1. east elmhurst al RE: Brian S Aug 23, 2007 02:11 PM

      Have you tried any of the Korean fried chicken places? I've enjoyed UFC (on the same block as Burmese Cafe) but I understand the ones in Flushing are even better.

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        Brian S RE: east elmhurst al Aug 23, 2007 05:20 PM

        No I haven't. Thanks. I've been meaning to go to Murray Hill for years now. But if I did I would probably try a place like Han Shin Pocha (maybe)


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          ammel_99 RE: Brian S Aug 29, 2007 12:58 PM

          I tried UFC twice and was disappointed both times. First time took forever (right after NYT review) and the second time it was smothered in sauce. Tried Kyo Chon on Northern Blvd and found that to be much better but he Hot wings were really HOT.

      2. Polecat RE: Brian S Aug 23, 2007 07:21 PM

        Not exactly new - and this is only an option if you're a half-crazed early riser like myself - but have you ever checked out the early morning scene in Flushing?

        I'm speaking specifically of two early morning hubs - the Mayflower and Everbest, the former on Main, the latter on Kissena, facing each other like gunfighters on either side of the library. There's also the Northern Chinese Breakfast options at J&L - up the street - at 41-28 Main (but then that wonderful joint has gotten its' share of coverage - worth a few trips in and of itself).

        The food is good at these places, yeah, but it's the total scene I'm recommending - worthy of a thread all its' own when I get the energy - the late night workers getting off their shifts brushing past the early morning guys just starting theirs, the insomniacs and stray characters (like myself), all huddled over newspapers, buns, coffee, noodle soup. Nothing like some hot soup at 6:30 am, big winding football sized steamed bun, looking like something out of a Magritte painting, perfect for tearing, dunking. Although I'm partial to the congee, and the early morning picture window view, at Everbest, I really dig the cold tea selection at Mayflower, Flushing's best in that regard - go for the green tea with ginseng floating up from the bottom, like some beautiful undersea forest of vines. Mayflower serves up items I haven't seen anywhere else in NYC, such as Ying/Yang style pancakes, big flat muthas with eggs cooked right into the dough. Greasy yeah, but good nonetheless.

        Anyhow, Brian, a 6:30 am trip to Flushing might not yield anything new, no. But it's pretty good as welcome wagons go in this great old town.

        Welcome back.

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          Brian S RE: Polecat Aug 24, 2007 01:16 PM

          I dont think I'll ever get there that early, just as I never made it to Fulton Fish Market. But your post is so vivid, I don't have to! Thanks.

        2. Gary Soup RE: Brian S Aug 23, 2007 07:45 PM

          When I was in NY in early July there appeared to be a couple of new places opening in the Flushing Mall (downtairs). One that particularly intrigued me had a big (60-item) menu sign up which seemed to feature Shanghainese small eats. The signage was all in Chinese except for a small hand-written one saying it was "coming soon." I'm dying for some reports on it before my next trip to NY (which might come in October) but no one has yet reported on it despite my pleas....

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            Brian S RE: Gary Soup Aug 24, 2007 01:17 PM

            I'll try to remember to have a look next time I'm there. Thanks.

            Is J & H Mall open????

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              Luther RE: Brian S Aug 25, 2007 08:23 AM

              J&L is open

          2. Brian S RE: Brian S Aug 28, 2007 09:39 AM

            A lot of people on the Manhattan board tell people to steer clear of Manhattan Chinatown and head for Flushing. But for Cantonese in Flushing, there are not that many stellar options. Ocean Jewels and Imperial Palace and maybe one or two I havent tried on 37 St, like Gala Manor. Are there any others?

            From memory, the best places in Flushing are these. Am I leaving any out?????

            Sichuan -- Spicy& tasty, Little Pepper
            Manchurian -- Waterfront Intl
            Eclectic northern -- a fan ti
            Cantonese -- Imperial Palace, Ocean Jewel

            What am I leaving out?? (not counting the malls, which are a different story)

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              Gary Soup RE: Brian S Aug 28, 2007 10:24 AM

              Shanghai Tide (née Shanghai Tang) had decent Shanghainese food when I tried it a couple of years ago.

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                bigjeff RE: Gary Soup Aug 31, 2007 04:27 PM


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                el jefe RE: Brian S Aug 28, 2007 05:57 PM

                A Fan Ti on 41st Ave for NE Chinese -- all lamb, all the time.

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                  Brian S RE: el jefe Aug 28, 2007 06:01 PM

                  Yeah. I listed it as "eclectic northern" since it has dishes from Xinjiang, Sichuan, and Manchuria... but lamb is what it is.

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                    Gary Soup RE: el jefe Aug 28, 2007 06:54 PM

                    No ox pizzle? Then I guess it's not related to the Afantis in Beijing and Shanghai.

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                    ltlevy RE: Brian S Aug 29, 2007 07:53 PM

                    While I like Gala Manor for dim sum, I don't think they do as well for their dinner menu. The last time we were there (6 months to a year ago), we were pretty disappointed. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find my original post on that and the brain cells with the specifics of our disappointment no longer seem to have died.

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                      ltlevy RE: ltlevy Aug 29, 2007 08:27 PM

                      On the subject of Cantonese fare, I forgot to mention Full House on 38th Avenue. We've been there quite a few times and always have been happy with both the food and the service.

                      Around this past Chinese New Year, we had live Alaskan King Crab. They prepared it 3 styles. One was the legs steamed in garlic, the shell steamed in egg yolk, and the body stir fried in garlic. Each was amazing.

                  3. Brian S RE: Brian S Aug 29, 2007 02:55 PM

                    I'm surprised no one mentioned Corner 28. I read about it on this board after I left NY and forgot it. I looked in yesterday, and the top floor (which had plenty of seats at 6:00 PM) had some interesting dishes on the menu.Reasonably priced too, for an elegant place. I plan to go back soon.

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                      Gary Soup RE: Brian S Aug 29, 2007 06:59 PM

                      Elegant? I guess I didn't look closely enough. It was those blasted ice cream truck chimes that kept me away. What was with that, anyway?

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                        ltlevy RE: Gary Soup Aug 29, 2007 07:44 PM

                        While I wouldn't call it elegant as Ocean Jewels. The upstairs at Corner 28 is more upscale than the downstairs. The one trying thing though is that you can't get the won ton noodle/congee menu in the upstairs dining room until after 10:30 pm. So for that reason alone, I usually prefer to sit downstairs.

                        And yes, that ice cream truck chime can drive you crazy! :-D

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                          Brian S RE: Gary Soup Aug 31, 2007 08:35 AM

                          The elegant part is on the second floor. Plush velvet upholstered armchairs, big windows overlooking Main St. The ground floor is the opposite of elegant, it makes the snack shop in Wong Kar Wei's "Chungking Express" look elegant.

                      2. Brian S RE: Brian S Aug 31, 2007 08:38 AM

                        Last night I went later than usual, and before eating at Little Pepper, walked around 40th and down Prince. I took note of which places were the most crowded, since that might mean they are very good. They were Lu's Taiwanese, the Canton place and the noodle shop just to the left of it with Nan in the Chinese name, all on the same little strip of Prince St between 38th and 37th.

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                          Gary Soup RE: Brian S Aug 31, 2007 09:34 AM

                          The Noodle House is presumptiously named "Nanxiang Xiaolong Bao" in Chinese but the xiaolongbao weren't up to snuff when I tried them.


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                            Lau RE: Gary Soup Sep 3, 2007 10:07 AM

                            how was the xian doujiang?

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                          FarVistas RE: Brian S Feb 4, 2008 05:35 PM

                          A relatively new Chinese restaurant in Flushing, is "Full House Seafood Restaurant" (also mentioned in one other reply to this post) - 136-14 38th Avenue: 718-358-0666. This is Cantonese - Hong Kong style food, and it is excellent - perhaps one of the best Chinese restaurants in Flushing. Try "Fresh Oysters with Black Bean Sauce" - 6 huge oysters, very well prepared. If you like noodle soup, "Roast Duck with Noodle Soup" is my favorite. If you would like to try something you have probably never had before, which I find delicious, try "Country Style Congee." This is a great restaurant.

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                            Brian S RE: FarVistas Feb 5, 2008 10:15 AM

                            I've been meaning to try that place for a long time. I even have a copy of their menu. But each time I make the long subway ride I take the easy route and end up at Spicy & Tasty or some other safe bet. Last week I went back to Corner 28 and had an excellent meal. Perfectly sauteed squid atop a bed of pea pods. But now I have to try Full House!

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                              Chandavkl RE: FarVistas Feb 6, 2008 12:23 PM

                              Thanks for the tip. I remember that location many years ago as being Jade Palace, which was good but not great.

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                                squid kun RE: FarVistas Feb 9, 2008 01:04 AM

                                Thanks, FV - what's in the "Country Style" congee?

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