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Epicurious redesign - I hate it! [moved from Not About Food board]

lupaglupa Aug 22, 2007 05:40 PM

Maybe the Chowhound team will delete this - can you complain about another site on this site?

I have always loved Epicurious and get lots of recipes there - and I know from the references in the posts that others do too. Today I went on and found the new site design. It breaks my heart to say it but I think I won't be using Epicurious anymore.

This is another "let's add every new fangled graphic we can fit in" web design. The pages now load very slowly (and it's not my connection - I'm on DSL). Just when you think you can start to look at a recipe the page moves and you end up clicking on an ad instead of a link.

I don't mind sites improving but why do they have to add so much frou frou?

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  1. Gio RE: lupaglupa Aug 22, 2007 05:57 PM

    Oh it's not that bad. You just have to get used to it. Actually, I found it easy to navigate,,, fun to click on the various topics and see what comes up.
    Sometimes, change is good, you know.

    1. vvvindaloo RE: lupaglupa Aug 23, 2007 01:12 PM

      Honestly, I just saw the new epicurious site, and I prefer the old one, too. While I think I can get used to the new design/feel of this one, I have a big problem with all of the new types of features (mostly ads) that cause sites to require minutes to load. I really hate it when the page suddenly jumps and links move around! I have a cable connection, so I am pretty sure that it is not me. AOL recently made changes that cause the same problems, only to a far worse degree, and I said goodbye.

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        LindaWhit RE: vvvindaloo Aug 23, 2007 01:16 PM

        I was at Epicurious' website a few days ago, and found it *extremely* annoying that they put a teeny-tiny little "advanced search" banner underneath an automatic pop-down Recipes link on the main page. Everytime you scroll over the Recipe link, it blocked getting to the Advanced Search link. You have to maneuver your cursor around the Recipes link to get to Search. Yes, I know you can click on Recipes and get to an Advanced Search banner that way without any addition pop-downs, but why should I have to click through? If they PUT the Advanced Search on the main page, make it so it's easy to use!

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          lupaglupa RE: LindaWhit Aug 24, 2007 08:25 AM

          I had the same problem - among others. I (kinda) understand that sites need to sell ad space. But when their own graphics clutter things up and slow things down that really irritates me. Pretty graphics are nice - but it's the content that brings people to the site. And if you can't get to it - what's the point.

      2. sivyaleah RE: lupaglupa Aug 23, 2007 01:13 PM

        Oh! I thought it was just me!

        I dislike it too. And it's acting oddly - I"m on DSL too and it's like a slug now. Yea, change is good, but maybe not so good this time. I think it needs some tweaking.

        1. DanaB RE: lupaglupa Aug 23, 2007 01:31 PM

          Unfortunately it seems to be a trend. Yahoo, IMDB, Epicurious, the newspaper websites, all of them are adding intensive graphics and streaming video on their home pages, which makes it really hard for an older computer, even with a fast internet connection, to access. I can barely even use Yahoo Games anymore. I've actually called to complain to a couple of sites where I had major problems, and was told that the upgrades were because they want to be on the "cutting edge" technology-wise, but I'm sure it all has to do with ad revenue, and those moving ads that jump around the page are much more inadvertently clicked on than ads that stay in one place.

          If you notice, it's mostly the free sites that depend on ad revenue are doing it -- sites that are purely commercial, and depend upon revenue from customers, tend to keep their sites less graphics-intensive. Amazon.com and Ebay come to mind -- I think their design philosophy is to keep their websites cleaner so people with all kinds of computers can easily use them. But, yeah, to keep this on the original poster's point, I find the new design on Epicurious difficult to use at best. I'll probably keep using it, as it's the only source for recipes from Gourmet Magazine, but I'm sure it (and other sites like it) will continue to annoy me until I'm so frustrated I have to break down and buy a new computer.

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            itryalot RE: lupaglupa Aug 23, 2007 01:32 PM

            Glad it's not just me. I did not return to the site after my initial visit because I did not like it that much!

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              mpalmer6c RE: lupaglupa Aug 24, 2007 09:10 AM

              Odd. It seems to be as fast on my computer as the old version, and I had no trouble using advanced search. Maybe the browser haxs an effect (I'm using IE7),

              1. LulusMom RE: lupaglupa Aug 24, 2007 03:16 PM

                Completely irritating. Glad it isn't just me.

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                  traceybell RE: lupaglupa Aug 25, 2007 09:15 PM

                  I think they have kinks they need to work out. I always check out those links like most popular, most healthy recipes, etc..and they're not loading right. With multiple pages of the same recipes. I do like how they have the picture next to each one now, but you have to click onto so many more multiple pages to see the whole list now. I do like that they have Melissa Clark blogging.

                  1. Candy RE: lupaglupa Aug 28, 2007 11:17 AM

                    I just took a look, I hven't been there in awhile. It is okay and I am on cable so speed is not an issue for me. What I hate are any ads at any site including this one that uses annoying roll overs, crap that pops up etc. I have sworn off Hillshire products and I am sure there will be more.

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                      SweetPea914 RE: Candy Aug 28, 2007 11:20 AM

                      We have a wireless cable connection too (Now there's an oxy-moron!) But I do find the new format annoying and slow to load as well. I keep trying to scroll down and when looking at recipes and there is a puase each time before my page moves! I'm sure it will just be a matter of getting used to it, but so far I am not a fan!

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                        madwrk RE: SweetPea914 Aug 28, 2007 11:23 AM

                        I agree as well and I can 't seem to find the comments that used to follow under the recipe. They were often as helpful and more informative than the actual recipe. Are they gone all together or am I just too dumb to find them????

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                          itryalot RE: madwrk Aug 28, 2007 11:29 AM

                          There is a tab at the top; called reviews. It will have the number of reviews listed beside it.

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                            SweetPea914 RE: madwrk Aug 28, 2007 11:37 AM

                            Yes, it's still there
                            I had trouble finding it too, it's the tab 2nd over from recipe near the left hand of your screen

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                        Val RE: lupaglupa Aug 28, 2007 11:35 AM

                        I don't like the new design either! I haven't found their "most popular" list on the new format either....does it still exist does anyone know? sheesh!

                        Okay, I found it (but hate the format of it!)

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                          evansmom RE: Val Sep 12, 2007 05:59 PM

                          Whenever I check "most popular" now that the site has been redesigned, I get 30 recipes from the September 2007 issues of Gourmet, some of which have not been reviewed and several of which don't even get four forks. What gives? I have written Epicurious twice to complain about the redesign and get the "thanks for your e-mail" automated reply. What a loss!

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                            Val RE: evansmom Sep 12, 2007 06:06 PM

                            "What a loss!"

                            AMEN! It wasn't broken...why did they feel the need to 'fix it'?

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                              sivyaleah RE: evansmom Sep 13, 2007 05:07 AM

                              That reminds me. I never got a followup to my complaint, other than that canned response. Very disappointing.

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                                DanaB RE: sivyaleah Sep 14, 2007 03:09 AM

                                Keep complaining. Eventually, the (hopefully) smart heads running the business will realize that their real market is not tweens and they will shape up. That, or all marketers will sacrifice the 30-somethings+ for the teen market, and they'll have to wait several years for a profit to come through.

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                            kgebhard RE: lupaglupa Aug 28, 2007 11:41 AM

                            Awful! Can't stand it.

                            1. amanda3571 RE: lupaglupa Aug 28, 2007 11:41 AM

                              oh my god....my entire recipe box got deleted!!!!!

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                                sivyaleah RE: amanda3571 Aug 28, 2007 11:51 AM

                                Mine too! Yikes! I had about 60ish recipes stored, and nearly all of them were things I actually had made! I just sent them an email about it. It was there a couple of days ago, it must have just happened.

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                                  sivyaleah RE: sivyaleah Aug 28, 2007 11:53 AM

                                  Amanda - it's still in there but showing "0". Try clicking on the link that says "recipe box". Mine were all there, even though the link showed nothing was in the box.

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                                    amanda3571 RE: sivyaleah Aug 28, 2007 11:57 AM

                                    Haha PHEW...they're safe & sound. Thanks Sivyaleah.

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                                      sivyaleah RE: amanda3571 Aug 28, 2007 01:33 PM

                                      That's great. But, I wonder how many other people aren't going to bother even looking and just assume like we both did that they have disappeared? I'm not sure why I even bothered to click on it - I guess my curiousity got the best of me. Will be interesting to see what their tech department has to say about it (whenever they answer me...)

                              2. JungMann RE: lupaglupa Aug 28, 2007 11:49 AM

                                The first Epicurious site re-design is what got me to branch out and explore other websites. It seems the site designers are trying to load the site with more and more graphics and new-fangled applications that only serve to confuse and bewilder. I'm on T1 and it still takes a while to load the site. And the new format is like navigating Times Square. Really a terrible jumble.

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                                  gotogal RE: JungMann Aug 28, 2007 11:54 AM

                                  I am busy enough as it is, have fast connection but the change just doesn't work for me and I also lost all recipes.

                                2. lupaglupa RE: lupaglupa Aug 28, 2007 02:21 PM

                                  I sent in a complaint, got back a form reply "thanks so much for taking the time to let us know what you think!" Maybe they will work out a few kinks but I doubt they'll roll back all the new graphics. Everybody wants to be flashier than the next guy. It makes me love Google all the more - that simple page is so fast and easy to use. Next up - Google recipes?

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                                    Val RE: lupaglupa Aug 28, 2007 03:30 PM

                                    I've seen Chowhound and Epicurious re-designed in the past mostly resulting in folks being up in arms...they never "go back to how it was"...never...you have to adjust or bail out, that's all...tho' I may be a bit cynical! :o) You know? WHY do they have to fix it if it ain't broken??? Whatever...they ALL do it.

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                                      JungMann RE: lupaglupa Aug 28, 2007 04:42 PM

                                      Google recipes already exists.

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                                        HillJ RE: JungMann Sep 13, 2007 06:01 PM

                                        Google Recipes is still beta and not worth a visit just yet.

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                                      lagatta RE: lupaglupa Sep 14, 2007 02:13 AM

                                      I hate it. Won't say I will boycott it, because their stock of recipes is too good, but the old design was far more elegant. I loathe busy, overloaded website designs.

                                      Stories and articles are almost impossible to find.

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                                        mordacity RE: lupaglupa Oct 5, 2007 09:25 AM

                                        I didn't like the ads and all those extra graphics, but they didn't really affect my experience using the site, so I let it slide. However, I just discovered that the "Part of Menu" search option has disappeared from the advanced search. This is something I really loved, as it allowed me to search for recipes to get the most out of fresh seasonal produce, and then get a good idea of how to fill out the rest of the meal.

                                        1. LulusMom RE: lupaglupa Oct 12, 2007 01:57 PM

                                          Today I went on the site and wanted to look at the most popular board, which used to be a good way to check up on new (or old) recipes that people loved. I have no idea why they're calling it the most popular, as some of the recipes on there has as few as 3 reviews. Fairly pointless, I think.

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