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FPFM a rant and a rave

little big al Aug 18, 2007 02:02 PM

First the rave. It was a perfect morning at the market. Sunny,nice ratio of shoppers to gawkers,and all vendors laden with juicy goods of summer. With the lamented departure of mariquita farms the award for best all round selection at lowest prices goes to Lucero Farms. Not only for their not so visually appealing but perfectly flavored strawberries, but most other produce (including awesome tomatoes) for 1.99 a pound. Now the rant. A place that sells food for humans is not an appropriate venue for DOGS. I don't care how cute you are or how much your dog thinks it's human or (at least in this respect) how they do it in Europe. I feel strongly that vendors should refuse service to dog-serfs much as they would to a smoker. Since that does not seem to be happening I will continue to go off on these trolls as neccesary. That's me there, in the Panama hat and home-made shirt. Are you with me?

  1. Paul H Aug 18, 2007 04:43 PM

    NO DOGS ALLOWED... IT'S THE LAW

    Under the provisions of the California Health and Safety Code, it is stated that "customers shall not bring any live animals into any food facility". We ask you to respectfully comply by not bringing your dog or other pets to the Ferry Building Marketplace or the Farmers Market located outside on the Ferry Building Plaza. Exceptions: Guide Dog for the Blind / Signal Dog for the Deaf / Service Dog for the Disabled or Handicapped.

    http://www.ferrybuildingmarketplace.c...

    Unfortunately, the policy is not well enforced.

    1 Reply
    1. re: Paul H
      The Chowhound Team Aug 19, 2007 03:04 PM

      Hi Folks-

      We have removed various digressions about dogs, bikes, children and old ladies from this thread. Paul H has provided a definitive answer about why there are no dog policies above, let's leave it at that.

      Please keep the focus of the discussion on the food available at these markets.

      Thanks.

    2. larochelle Aug 18, 2007 02:29 PM

      If you love Mariquita, you can always do their guerrilla boxes.

      I'm not with you regarding dogs. I think Americans are uptight and sanitation-crazy, often over completely imagined threats.

      1. MorganSF Aug 18, 2007 02:16 PM

        I agree about Lucero--great prices, lots of varieties of tomatoes, cucumbers, squash, and eggplant. They even have the romanesco-type zucchini.

        I'll take the dogs over those double-wide strollers any day.

        6 Replies
        1. re: AntarcticWidow
          rworange Aug 18, 2007 03:25 PM

          It's even more tragic at Ferry Plaza. Marin Sun sells packages of dog meat. You could drop a bundle of money if your dog starts getting used to that pricy meat.

          Speaking of Mariquita, it's time for thier annual tomato u-pick next week - Aug 25th. The are a California Board discussion. Here's a link to last year's u-pick that some Chowhounds attended.
          http://www.chowhound.com/topics/326588
          http://www.mariquita.com/events/Event...

          1. re: rworange
            dedicateddourly Aug 18, 2007 05:31 PM

            Oh geez, I guess I didn't read that first paragraph too well because I went to the Marin Sun website to see if they actually sold dog meat. To my relief, I'm just a careless reader.

            1. re: dedicateddourly
              little big al Aug 18, 2007 08:19 PM

              Dear Ded, remember Bob and Ray and market futures reports on" groundhog meat", sorry,that's" ground hog meat"?

              1. re: little big al
                rworange Aug 18, 2007 10:00 PM

                That's what I get for typing wihout thinking again. Then again, it would be a way to solve the dog problem at the farmers market ... meat for dogs to eat.

            2. re: rworange
              AntarcticWidow Aug 18, 2007 08:23 PM

              Hmmm, I'll be at the Marin Farmer's Market tomorrow morning. Maybe I'll check out Marin Sun Farms or Prather Ranch.

              My dogs are weird. They're vegetarian chowhounds - their favorite snack foods are bell peppers, carrots, green beans, strawberries, gala and pink lady apples, Cesar salad or chopped iceberg lettuce with blue cheese dressing. One has this thing for tea, but not just any kind, it has to be Earl Grey.

              He's in the kitchen right now whining for me to brew him an evening cup. I've created a monster ...

            3. re: AntarcticWidow
              Ruth Lafler Aug 18, 2007 11:03 PM

              How odd. As others have pointed out, Farmers' Markets are considered food facilities, dogs are not allowed by law, and I've seen signs to that effect at Grand Lake. Of course, these days there are lots of people abusing the service dog exemption by bringing dogs they say are service dogs of some type but who aren't legitimate service dogs.

              Temescal FM has an enclosed, supervised area where you can leave your dog, which I think is great. Of course my dog -- who can get more than a little hyped up when there are lots of people and dogs around -- couldn't be kept in the "general population" and had to go into isolation.

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              Alan408 Aug 18, 2007 02:15 PM

              IIRC, San Jose's Japantowns farmer's market has signage against dogs.

              Write the FPFM management, or get a neighbor who has a male dog, take them to the FM and let the dog do his thing. My male dog got us kicked out of a few places, I had to buy a few things he marked too.

              Just be advised, it you are successful, you will have to change your appearance.

              1. rworange Aug 18, 2007 02:09 PM

                One vendor I like a lot with the exit of Mariquita is Everything Under The Sun. The produce tastes excellent and the prices are reasonable. I think Lucero has gotten increasingly better. Great cucumbers and as you said, the most reasonable prices on tomatoes. Nice squash too. They sell at the Thursday Berkeley farmers market and a few others.

                Complaint about dogs? I think Chowhounds should be allowed to remain.

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                1. re: rworange
                  JasmineG Aug 18, 2007 02:23 PM

                  Lucero is also at Berkeley on Saturdays, and Temescal on Sundays. I agree with the rave about them.

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                    chompy Aug 18, 2007 03:02 PM

                    Also Oakland Grand Lake FM on Saturdays...although for some reason I may be confusing them with Lacier, whose stall is right next to Lucero, I think. Lacier had the best cherries during cherry season. Lucero has the armenian cucumbers, right? They're good.

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