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European bag-in-box wine in SF / East Bay?

Robert Lauriston Aug 18, 2007 08:59 AM

Farmstead Cheeses & Wines in Alameda has two, a Picpoul de Pinet and a Grand Veneur Côtes du Rhône.

Anybody seen others? I've seen only California and Australian, which aren't to my taste.

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  1. rworange RE: Robert Lauriston Aug 19, 2007 09:22 PM

    Yeah, a Riesling from Germany of all things. I think this might be it

    I just noted Pfalz and bottled by Zimmermann-Graeff & Müller.

    Maybe that should have read "boxed by". I'm not really sure if the first link is the same wine I saw. I remember the color blue but it seemed more blue than the picture. I was taken aback seeing Riesling in a box and then seeing it was really from Germany.

    Albertson's in Hercules. Scoff if you must, but some Albertson's have above average wine aisles. This was actually one of the best I've seen. I know you don't care for Australian, but they had a boxed Australian wine I've never seen before, Box Star. Also had a few domestic boxed wines that were new to me.

    Edited ... googling around it turns out two of the other boxed wines are European.

    Seeberger Riesling, Germany

    Angel Juice – Italian origin, One of SF-based Underdog Wine Merchant’ offerings

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    1. re: rworange
      Robert Lauriston RE: rworange Aug 19, 2007 11:54 PM

      You saw those two rieslings at the Albertson's in Hercules?

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        rworange RE: Robert Lauriston Aug 20, 2007 12:06 AM

        Yeah ... amazing. Didn't note the price exactly but I think in the $20 range. Maybe there's a German population in Hercules. Then again doesn't reisling go well with some spicy Asian foods?

        The bottled wine section looked pretty impressive too.

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          Ruth Lafler RE: rworange Aug 20, 2007 11:52 AM

          Yup. Riesling goes well with spicy food. Goes well with almost anything, in fact. BTW, has that Albertson's been rebranded as a Lucky's yet? Because if not, it might be under different management than the Lucky's-branded ones.

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            rworange RE: Ruth Lafler Aug 20, 2007 12:25 PM

            Nope. Still Albertsons.

      2. re: rworange
        Robert Lauriston RE: rworange Aug 23, 2007 08:44 AM

        Thanks for the tip, they had the riesling and "Angel Juice" Veneto pinot grigio at the El Cerrito Albertson's as well. I'll report on the Wine board next week.

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          rworange RE: Robert Lauriston Aug 23, 2007 08:48 AM

          Cool. Looking forward to hearing what someone who knows about wine thinks about them. Hope you'll put a link to your report here since I know I'll forget to check the Wine Board.

          Depends on the Albertsons on the wine selection. The San Pablo Dam Road has a miserable selection and doesn't carry them. However, given the pleasant Hercules farmers market I'll probably do my other grocery shopping at the Hercules store. Haven't been to the El Cerrito store so that sounds like it might be another good pairing with farmers market shopping.

      3. twocents RE: Robert Lauriston Aug 21, 2007 02:55 AM

        did you try either?

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          rworange RE: twocents Aug 21, 2007 07:59 AM

          No. I don't like reisling. Both got good reviews. If you follow the Seeberger link, it came in first out of a tasting of 50 boxed wines at the Austin Chronicle. They did a blind tasting of boxed AND bottled wines.

          Only one of three boxed wines that was judged the equal of bottled wine ... or in the rating system they used rated gold "a wine that we would happily buy and keep around the house for personal consumption."

          The other categories "Silver meant we'd buy it for parties, cooking, and infrequent drinking. Bronze meant we would happily drink it for free at someone else's party. No medal meant we wouldn't even swallow the stuff; we'd spit it out."

          One of the wine tasters was the local wine buyer for Whole Foods and the writer said he wouldn't be surprised to see it sold soon at local stores. They had a very wine-knowledgable tasting panel.

        2. Robert Lauriston RE: Robert Lauriston Aug 27, 2007 09:43 PM

          Tasting notes:


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            ambercontegssa RE: Robert Lauriston Aug 28, 2007 08:30 PM

            Although not Euro, Bandit makes pinot gris & noir in 1 ltr and small sizes out of CA grapes. Can purchase at Big John's in Healdsburg or CalMart in Calistoga.
            Their website is threethieves.com

            1. re: ambercontegssa
              Robert Lauriston RE: ambercontegssa Aug 28, 2007 11:29 PM

              Besides not being Europ, that's not bag-in-box. It's like a milk carton.

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              rworange RE: Robert Lauriston Aug 28, 2007 10:07 PM

              Thanks for taking the bullet on the Angel Juice .. or is that drinking the poison.

              Ok, your camping trip is over, but if you are still interested I found Chateau les Gravettes boxed 2002, I'm assuming Burgundy.

              The whole box is in French, as is the website and 12 years of French classes in Catholic schools didn't make a dent in my understanding .... and some people dont' understand why my Spanish hasnt' progressed.

              Oh yeah ... Oakland Grocery Outlet ... 5 liters $3.99. Haven't tried it yet.

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                Robert Lauriston RE: rworange Aug 28, 2007 11:25 PM

                Bordeaux. I'll give that a try if they don't run out.

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                  rworange RE: Robert Lauriston Aug 29, 2007 11:43 AM

                  I'll be interested in what you have to say.

                  I tried a little to see if I wanted to buy more ... I want to buy more from my little taste. I'll have to have a whole glass later to verify.

                  Dang ... first boxed wine I ever had that had a bouquet.

                  The bag is different too ... some sort of shiny silver thing like mylar. Do all European boxed wines have this?

                  A few of the boxes had a dent. A note ... because the wine is in a bag, the dent doesn't matter.

                  Thanks ... of course, Bordeaux. My French isn't that bad that I tranlated that from the French website to Burgundy ... it was a long day and I was tired.

            3. Robert Lauriston RE: Robert Lauriston Apr 4, 2010 01:35 PM

              A couple of weeks ago I found a delicious 3L Blason Friuli IGT rosso at K&L for $14.99, marked down from $19.99. Unfortunately, by the time I tasted it, they'd run out. Maybe the next vintage is on its way.


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