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BBQ Beef tips on pancakes

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Diana Aug 16, 2007 11:50 AM

I could kill Alton Brown. I want this now. Let's come up with a chowhound recipe!
Combine the bvest beef tips with the best pancakes

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    Darth Foodie Nov 13, 2010 09:19 AM

    Has anyone tried using this recipe, that was based on the show?

    http://raysteele.blogspot.com/2009/06...

    1. paulj Aug 25, 2007 06:42 PM

      I just tried the combo, and it worked pretty well.

      The meat was boneless beef rib meat, what my Asian grocery labeled 'ladyfinger meat'. I initially simmered it with some tougher meat (drop flank) with Chinese spices (soy sauce, star anise, ginger) - a variation on Clare's beef base. Then I doctored up some bottled BBQ sauce (Trader Joes) with sauteed onion, mustard, ginger, brown sugar. Then added the meat (leaving the Chinese spices with the drop flank). The result was bite size beef pieces in a thick, sweetish BBQ sauce.

      The pancakes were thick buttermilk ones, using the recipe off the box of powdered buttermilk (sweetened a bit with Carnation malted milk powder).

      I think the combination worked well because the sweet of the BBQ sauce was consistent with our expectations for sweet toppings on pancakes. It was, in effect, a variation on pancakes, syrup, and breakfast sausage (or ham). Sweet, a bit of spice, and contrasting textures of pancake and meat.

      paulj

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        rchico3553 Aug 20, 2007 09:01 AM

        Ok, I checked the food network site and Alton Brown's Feasting on Asphalt site and both referred to the rib tips and pancakes as pork ribs. This is interesting. What is it? Pork or Beef? What would be best? Ok that's it I can't take it, I'm going in! If I'm not back in a few call 911. : )

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          paulj Aug 20, 2007 10:43 AM

          Do the web sites say 'pork ribs'? I recall just a 'pork and pancakes' segment. So the 'pork' either refers to some other aspect of the episode, or it is a mistake. I didn't note whether other items were ordered at Jims Cafe.

          Here's a web page with Jim's Cafe's menu. I don't see mention of anything like this (other than pancakes with meat). The beef must have been a daily special.
          http://cityofgreenville.oldesouthphoto.com/Jim'sCafe.htm

          However, this article talks of a pork barbecue
          http://www.sunherald.com/160/story/12...
          "The renegades did choose one of the cafe's specialties, that pork barbecue, but the Greenville establishment also produces a chicken/turkey dressing they're mighty proud of. "Jim," of the cafe's name, ceased to be a part of the equation when Nick and Gus' father bought the cafe in 1935."

          But then, Alton also mistook a porcupine for a nutria :

          )

          In closeups, did the rib pieces look to big to pork? They looked more like short ribs to me.

          paulj

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            rchico3553 Aug 20, 2007 10:55 AM

            They did look like short ribs but the bones looked more like pork. It's in episode 2 and is reffered to as Jim's Cafe (pork and pancakes).

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              Diana Aug 20, 2007 10:58 AM

              I dunno, I saw tips without bone..but then I was drooling and slightly insane at the thought. I swear Alton said "beef tips" at least once.

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                paulj Aug 20, 2007 12:03 PM

                If they were pork ribs, then how did 'tips' enter the conversation. 'pork tips' isn't a common term.

                I don't recall any description of the BBQ sauce. In terms of flavor, that would have a greater impact on the dish than the beef v pork issue. It is clear, after all, that this was not dry rub, slow smoked meat.

                Either could be good. For example, the chuck roast that Alton made, with raisins, tomato, and vinegar in a foil pouch, could be served on pancakes. If it was ribs, I'd want something that meaty enough that I could cut it off the bones, and eat with pieces of pancake. If I had to pick up the ribs in my hands to eat them, there'd be little reason to put them on the pancakes - except to soak up the sauce.

                But then, why serve fried chicken on waffles?
                paulj

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                  Diana Aug 20, 2007 12:39 PM

                  "But then, why serve fried chicken on waffles?"

                  Because we can! Bwahahaha!

                  I would imagine a good beef tip, tender and meaty, in some amazing sauce would be perfect on a pancake..the cake rolled around the meat.

                  Similar in a way to Ethipian beef tibs or chicken tibs (yes, I said tibs) sccoped up in injera.

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            rchico3553 Aug 19, 2007 10:16 PM

            I've seen this episode and I believe that actually began to salivate. It looks great. If there is anybody out there willing to do some r & d, hook us up.

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              melly Aug 20, 2007 05:27 AM

              I, for one, will happily do some r & d. Did you see how fluffy those pancakes were? Remember, Alton commented that because the cakes were put on the "buttered flat-top", one gets that outer "crust" which goes with the short ribs. I just loved Clara.

              It took me forever to think of which male stand-up did "Clara's Voice"...Flip Wilson. I had to keep listening to Clara..playback!...and then it came to me.

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                rchico3553 Aug 20, 2007 09:53 PM

                That would be Geraldine!

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              CeeBee Aug 17, 2007 01:45 PM

              I've been craving this since I saw that episode...

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                bkhuna Aug 17, 2007 04:31 PM

                I'm game. Sounds like fun. I also enjoyed that episode.

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                  paulj Aug 17, 2007 05:10 PM

                  But wasn't that beef boiled first? That's supposed to be a big no-no for BBQ :)

                  paulj

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                    bkhuna Aug 18, 2007 05:41 AM

                    The beef was braised in the oven. I don't recall anyone calling it BBQ . I'm pretty sure they just called it beef and pancakes.

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                      paulj Aug 18, 2007 05:10 PM

                      I just took notes during the latest repeat. At various points in the segment, Alton or Clara, refers to the meat as
                      rib tips
                      BBQ tips
                      beef tips
                      beef tips and pancakes

                      The closeups showed rib bones.

                      Clara said she simmered them first for 45 min, in water flavored with beef base (and whatever she liked). Then it was into the oven, and at some point BBQ sauce was added. They were served out a pan in the oven. No mention as to whether the simmering water was used for anything.

                      paulj

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                        krez Aug 20, 2007 01:52 PM

                        They definitely looked like beef tips to me, whatever that's worth. That looked good to me too. I don't know why pancakes can't be savory. I mean - you eat them with eggs, bacon and sausage....

                        (Does anyone else find it wierd that there is a gyros pita on the menu?)

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