Best bread and butter basket?
Call me a glutton but the best part of dining out is the delicious warm rolls and softened butter basket served while anticipating for my meal to arrive, Nothing opens up my appetite more than a well done bread basket! Off the top of my head I've enjoyed Blue ribbon, Park avenue cafe, and Bouley for example. Basically, bread so good you don't feel guilty ruining your appetite.
My question is where are some of the finest bread baskets in NYC? It needs not to be baked in-house but it definitely needs to be fresh, crusty, delicate, and with a nice assorted selection. The butter: softened. Olive oils and olives are a huge plus!
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A few years back I lived on the UWS. I was dieting at one point and everyday had to walk by the outdoor cafe of Firorello's in the Lincoln Square area. Each day the tables were adorned with amazing looking bread baskets, including this big cracker-like flat bread dusted with seame seeds. Never got a chance to eat it, but that damn basket still haunts me; it looked so great. This was some 4 years ago and whenever in that area, I still make a point of looking to see if that bread basket remains so tempting. It does. I know, I know, eat there already!
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Folks, pardon the interruption, but we have removed some off topic discussions about people's personal preferences in bread baskets and butter etc. that neither discuss where to find great bread baskets in Manhattan, nor ask where to find such places that suit said personal preferences. Please keep the focus here on your opinions about bread baskets in Manhattan. If you are interested in discussing what you think generally makes for a fine bread basket, you can certainly start such a topic on the General Chowhounding Topics board.
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re: DarthEater
Well, if you don't like getting rolls, ONE AT A TIME, then don't go to B Smith's...The rolls are delicious, but why does one have to continually ask for each additional one? It is cheap, cheap, cheap!!! There is a very highly touted restaurant in Dallas, Stephen Pyles, and they bring you this mini corn muffin, that I suppose is an "amuse bouche", but it is incredibly delicious, and when you ask for more, you sense a "look"...Maybe they do not want you to fill up before the actual meal begins, but hey, some of us think that the bread is a highlight!
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Try Tintol. Really good olive bread with olive oil for dipping.
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I'll tell you where NOT to get it; at Falai. Despite the pedigree and what you might think, the choices of bread available there (with a small tabletop menu no less) were really mediocre; the foccacine were stale, the black cabbage bread was tough, the rosemary raisin bread was very thick, the onion twist was also stale; and these were breads that our server would occasionally bring out on trays, giving us individual breads. I think scale is the issue; the ratios are not right between bread and crust, resulting in chewy (not in a good way) bread.
and I assume you mean gratis bread baskets; otherwise, I'd definitely add momofuku ssam bar's bread and butter menu selection; delicious artisanal butters and a great crusty baguette that you could ask for more of. great stuff!
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re: kobetobiko
Momofuku has great bread and butter, despite it costing $8. Last time I went my friend and I didn't want to spend much money so we ordered one appetizer and bread, and they refilled it for us three times (enough to use up their crazy goat butter!). If she had eaten pork I would've ordered some country ham though. I've been dreaming of that lunch.
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re: zoeterry
service was . . solicitous, is that the word? and the grilled octopus I had was probably the best octopus ever but the bread we had, in a serious way, I just didn't like. we must've gotten bad batch after batch, and it just made it worse what with the bread menu on each table.
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I love the bread at L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon. They don't come in bread basket but rather the server serves you one by one. Rumors were that they have a secret recipe for their bread and so it was different from what you get normally. Butter was ok, nothing special.
I have to agree with all the hounds who suggested Del Posto. The variety of the bread is much better than other fine-dining restaurants. The lardo has me hooked.
The bread and olive oil at A Voce is pretty good as well.
(I also had the same frozen butter experience at EMP, though it was during RW, so I am willing to give them a second chance ;D)
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re: nativeNYer
Omg, we MUST be the same person! It sends the 'cheap' alert off. I had dinner at Lure Fishbar last night and right after we placed our order, they sent us warmed brioche rolls for one per diner with softened butter piped into a star. I like brioches but it was too rich and dense/chewy, something saved for breakfast. During dinner time i would've preferred a bread with a nice crust and light crumb. But it was just one and nomore was offered to the table.
Tribeca grill sends it out one by one. Only problem was he appeared once and never came back.
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Max in the EV has a great tomato/lemon zest/olive-y/olive oily spread that is aromatic, salty, citrus-y and delicious. I don't know if it's my imagination, but the spread just doesn't taste as good, or have as much complexity, at Max SoHa.
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re: rose water
I went to max tribeca and I found that bread dip to be really strange; a perfectly good pool of olive oil, but then this tasteless bland mound of what looked like thousand island dressing in the middle; looked outstanding but seriously underwhelmed upon dipping in; we asked for plain olive oil instead and simply salted it for a much better dip.
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Really not sure what I would say is best but this is a great Topic choice! Although it's definitely not the BEST I've ever had, Mesa Grill's jalapeno corn bread is to die for. Warm with a little butter melting on it....mmmmmmm.
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re: kathryn
For me there is certainly a huge distinction between a bread basket you have to pay for ( cafe @ country for 12$!!) vs others. Pastries are almost always separate charge and listing so that is another story. The bread basket at brunch at Mesa Grill and at dinner at del Posto are both our favorites btw
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I would say the best would be Bouley, but Daniel comes in at a close second. Not the same breadth of selection as Bouley but about 5 to choose from. L'Atelier de Joel Roubuchon also rocks as well. In terms of butter, Per Se and Bouchon Bakery has the best butter I've ever tasted.
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I still remember the delicious breads I had at Alto. I'm not normally a big bread person, but the pretzel rolls and olive oil were amazing here.
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re: clashfan
I add a nod to Del Posto, particularly the little foccacia rolls, as well as the aforementoned Blue Ribbon Bakery, particularly their raisin nut bread and challah. BUT Craftsteak, which has virtually NOTHING going for it in any other way, serves the most amazing Parker House rolls in a wonderful little pan and you MUST ask for seconds; mostly because it will be the best thing you eat all night...
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Enoteca at Del Posto (assuming it is the same in the main space as well)... great variety, all styles done well and the soft butter/lardo option was perfect (I could not stop using the lardo). That $45 tasting, with bread basket, is great value for dollar, imo.
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The gruyere popovers at BLT Steak and BLT Prime. Doesn't really fit your criteria but they are fantastic.
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We must be the same person. Bread baskets can easily make or break the meal for me and, just as you said, bread needs to be warm, crusty, fresh, and delicate with SOFT butter. Yes, olive oil is also important. If I start choking, it's darn, good oil!
Actually, French Roast has great bread served warm but no oil nor assortment. Plum Pomidoro does as well but it's not served hot and there's no assortment. Olive oil at Plum is amazing. These are the two quick places that pop into my mind only b\c they are close to home and frequented the most. I realize these are the most least likely places and in a completely different league than the ones you've mentioned but I've encountered many pitiful bread baskets in some high end, wonderful places.
However, let's see what I can remember when I am more lucid later today. Oh, Cafe Ronda is worth trying and Le Meridien which has a hot, assortment of home-baked bread. I recently had a fantastic bread basket at a place in Nassau County called Umberto's that has everything you just described but I'll limit comments to places in Manhattan.
Thanks for the great post. Curious to see what the others say.
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re: nativeNYer
"I realize these are the most least likely places and in a completely different league than the ones you've mentioned but I've encountered many pitiful bread baskets in some high end, wonderful places."
Nothing turns me off more than when I have to exert muscles and elbow grease into the butter dish with my butter knife. I popped a vein in Eleven Madison Park trying to
scratch into the frozen butter dish. Definitely not sexy. But yes, I've enjoyed small cafes with smaller budgets versus high end establishments.
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