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Aug 15, 2007 12:19 PM

Recommendation for south of Valence?

I am going to be eating at the following restaurants on an upcoming trip, which starts and ends in Munich:

Schubecks, Tantris, Hotel de Ville, Bistrot a Chamonix, Le Belvedeter, L'Augerge du Pere Bise, Pic, XXX, Paul Bocuse, Chateau Bagnol, Faude, Hotel Bareiss, Hierschgasse.

My question is what restaurant should be in the place of XXX. I would like for it to be south of Valence, but not too far. This is the last time in my life I will get the chance to do this, so make your very best recommendation for me!

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  1. Beaugraviere in Mondragon fits your description of fabulous eating not too far south of Valence.

    <This is the last time in my life I will get the chance to do this, > This sounds like a rather dire statement. Care to elaborate?

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    1. re: ChefJune

      Sorry, didn't mean to sound dire. I have no terminal illness, but I am getting on in years and have the $ to do this only once. That's all I meant. Thanks for the recommendation.

    2. That's a nice list -- come to say hello when in Munich! (when is your trip?). Foodies are a bit isolated here.

      Is l'Oustau de Baumanières too far? This is a very georgeous place, would totally consider it as a once-in-a-lifetime place. And a legendary one.

      Why south of Valence, if you're heading North to Lyons afterwards? From Lyons, great places within reach are numerous. Marcon and Troisgros west, Chapel North, La Pyramide south, Blanc Northeast, and all the burgund business further north, say Lameloise in Chagny. Since all the restaurants in your list are classic and even historical, it seems that these restaurants could fit well in your plan (that's why we are not discussing Veyrat, right?). Also, if your trip is before the end of this year, Léon de Lyon will still be there.

      If I may advise on your list, I would suggest to skip le restaurant de l'hotel de ville (which I suppose is Philippe Rochat's in Crissier) which was a major disappointment for all foodies I know (starting with me, twice -- do I ever learn?) and replace it by the more humble and much better Rabaey in Brent, next to Montreux -- don't miss the sweetbread if you like that, and the puff pastry.

      In Munich, you might consider Königshof and Aquarello too, not to mention Winkler one hour southeast. To my taste, they are better options than Schuhbeck.

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      1. re: souphie

        I appreciate the detailed reply. My trip starts tomorrow night. Since I am on the other side of the globe, it will take me 17 hours in the air and wait time at 3 airports, not including arrival in Munich. I hope to feel up to going straight to Der Pshorr (sp?) for a weisswurst and beer. (As I have written on this site before, that is a favorite place of mine, even if I can't always remember how to spell it.)

        I was intrigued by Veyrat, but could get no response to email, phone, or fax, so I gave up.

        I respect your views greatly and have taken your advice on Le Pont de Brent (Rabaey) v. Rochat, and I have chosen your recommendation Alain Chapel as XXX. I tried Pyramide, Troisgros, and Leon de Lyon first. Couldn't make contact with Leon because the restaurant is temporarily closed, and the other two are not open on Wednesday, which is the evening I still had available on my list. However, I decided to stick with Schuhbeck and hope that he will not disappoint.

        [ChefJune, following your suggestion and prior to hearing from souphie, I tried to contact Beaugraviere by email, but have had no response. As you might imagine with a 12 hour time difference, phoning is not easy.]

        BTW, I return via San Franciso and will be trying Boulevard, the Dining Room at Ritz Carlton, and Quince there.

        Anyway, the schedule is now complete, my bag is packed, and I am hungry. Things look promising indeed.