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  <id>431193</id>
  <title>Cheese-obsessed</title>
  <published_at>Tue Aug 14 11:19:37 -0700 2007</published_at>
  <post_count>18</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>61</id>
    <name>Austin</name>
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    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>2844629</id>
        <content>I'm cheese-obsessed and looking for a variety of ways to cure that obsession.  

I've searched whole foods upcoming classes and none of them involve cheese-tastings.  I am looking for something like the cheese tastings at the Artisanal in NYC.  I do realize I am not in NYC, but are there knowledgable people doing tastings in Austin?

Also, I'm interested in working with cheese.  I want to learn by doing -- whether that is as a cheesemonger or a cheesemaker, I am not picky.  Anything like that available in Austin?

And for those of you in the potential "know" -- is there anything I should be studying or learning to have an "in?"  I'm pretty knowledgable in the basics of cheese, but I'm itching to know more.

Anyone know why there aren't any stand-alone cheese-shops in austin?

Thanks</content>
        <published_at>Tue Aug 14 11:19:37 -0700 2007</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>117419</id>
          <name>meetmeat</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2844667</id>
      <content>http://www.purelucktexas.com/index.htm

Visit the website of our very own internationally recognized dairy in nearby Dripping Springs.

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/335546

Or get thee to one of our local restaurants in the above link and share Austin's love affair with Queso</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 14 11:29:39 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2844629</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16897</id>
        <name>scrumptiouschef</name>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2844708</id>
      <content>No, no queso for me....I mean, I love queso, but right now I am looking for a much snootier version of cheese.  I want cheese classes, I want giant wooden platters of stinky cheese with impossible-to-pronounce names, I eventually want to be behind the scenes and I want to know what I need to get there.  I am going to check out pure luck -- hopefully they have a cheese making class there that will get my goat.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 14 11:37:45 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2844667</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>117419</id>
        <name>meetmeat</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2845119</id>
      <content>Hey meetmeat: I remember reading that Central Market is having an international beer and artisinal cheese tasting sometime next month but i believe the cost was $50 or so and of course these are pairings, not just the cheeses on their own.  If this interests you, you might call and check it out.  I much prefer the cheese section at CM (N. Lamar) to the one at WF for some reason...  I think it's because there is one cheesemonger there (olive skinned bloke with glasses and [French Algerian?] accent) who gets really excited about the cheeses.  I remember recently I was looking for a particular goat cheese and somehow he and I ended up in a little convo about the glories of Humboldt Fog.  Those are the kinds of things that make me want to buy cheese from them.  The people at our WF (So. Lamar), in my experience, seem like they're just there to do a job.  Now I was at WF in NYC in June and that was a different story: their separate tasting room was amazing and the staff was much more enthusiastic about cheese than the staff I've encountered at Austin WF, especially considering this is their headquarters!  But I digress.  Best of luck to you meatmeet.  I hope you are able to find/create some great cheeese in Austin.  And don't forget to hit up central market for their Canadian Oka; havent found it anywhere else in town for some reason and it is top notch.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 14 13:00:15 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2844629</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>93628</id>
        <name>femmenikita</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2847566</id>
      <content>Thanks so much -- this is exactly the kind of info i'm looking for!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 15 08:26:16 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2845119</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>117419</id>
        <name>meetmeat</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2845228</id>
      <content>Off the OP's topic, but still on fromage, does anyone know where to find Hooligan? I had some at a restaurant in Red Hook, Brooklyn, and this thread reminded me that I need to look for it here. Guidance appreciated.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 14 13:24:23 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2844629</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>72703</id>
        <name>Twill</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2845417</id>
      <content>Of course, you might also consider picking up a book and giving it a whirl at home.  Some of the fresh cheeses aren't too complicated (of course, getting it right is challenging) and that could be a starting point.  Might want to take this over to the Home Cooking board though ... and you could also check out this thread I came across on another (unmentionable?) site: http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?showtopic=8864

I actually think I might prefer the cheese selection at Central Market over WF too (as mentioned above).  I recently tried their own fresh mozz which was also really quite good. 

</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 14 14:04:06 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2844629</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11162</id>
        <name>Nab</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2846387</id>
      <content>Two suggestions: First, go to the Sunset Valley farmer's market on Sat morning.  There are a few artisinal cheesemakers usually there including sometimes a Pure Luck booth.  Maybe they'd invite you out to participate at the farm.

Second, in addition to Central Market N. Lamar, check out Grapevine Market off Anderson Lane just east of Mopac.  They have a smaller but exceptional cheese dept and very enthusiastic and helpful staff. Don't know if they offer classes or not on cheese.  I'm assuming a cheese only retailer simply wouldn't make it in Austin - need wine or other specialty foods along with it.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 14 19:13:46 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2845417</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>61658</id>
        <name>boshtx</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2847571</id>
      <content>If I were to ever do a retail shop in austin, it would be a specialty shop, though likely not wine.

Good idea about grapevine and I'm reminded that specs has a good specialty section as well.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 15 08:27:46 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2846387</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>117419</id>
        <name>meetmeat</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2847933</id>
      <content>I second that--SSV market has a cheese booth every week from Full Quiver Farms. They have some great firm cheeses as well as soft spreads. I like the white cheddar and the colby.
Pure Luck Farms has not been there this year, much to everybody's dismay. But the good news is that their time off is for a good cause--instead of selling off the baby goats this year, they have decided to keep them and enlarge their herd. Therefore, there is less milk for cheese since the babies are drinking it. (This FFA moment coming from a city boy w/ no knowledge of animal husbandry, so please forgive me if this terminology is inaccurate.) I believe they are still filling orders for WF and CM. I look forward to their return to the market. </content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 15 10:07:35 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2846387</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>97950</id>
        <name>tipsytexan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2849530</id>
      <content>Austin Homebrew Supply carries cheesemaking supplies.  The guys there are very down-to-earth and friendly when I go there with homebrewing questions, so maybe hit them up with your cheese curiosities.

http://www.austinhomebrew.com/index.php?cPath=178_361</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 15 16:25:23 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2844629</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>55723</id>
        <name>jwynne2000</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2865777</id>
      <content>The Westgate Central Market has a cheese and wine tasting bar next to the wine section. It has "cheese flights" and the wine by the glass is cheap compared to others in town. You might give it a try. It is open from noon-8:00 I believe. </content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 21 09:19:04 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2844629</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>120972</id>
        <name>mkp</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5160374</id>
      <content>I am a fromagier in Fredricksburg TX and I often do cheese and wine tastings. Every Sat. the shop I work at has some kind of event going on. This weekend (11-7-09) I will be making cheese hor d'ors and using different wines to go with these. It is not as extravagant as Artisinal, but it is generally fun and informative.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 06 05:44:48 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>2844629</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1122191</id>
        <name>tesswolf0303</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5192357</id>
      <content>There is a cheese shop opening in Austin called Antonelli's Cheese.  Unsure of what part of town or when they'll open.  http://www.antonellischeese.com/</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 18 13:54:03 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>2844629</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>88548</id>
        <name>Kaya_n_Austin</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5192463</id>
      <content>I understand it's being opened by John Antonelli at the Duval Center in Hyde Park.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 18 14:30:37 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5192357</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>114080</id>
        <name>missmitzi</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5196549</id>
      <content>It is pretty odd that Austin hosted the American Cheese Society's  conference here in town last August and yet apparently has not a single free-standing retail fromagerie.  I'm looking forward to the opening of Antonelli's Cheese, as I'm not always happy with the pickings at Central Market and Whole Foods.  Some random cheese musings follow:

The folks at renowned Three Shepherds Cheese are offering a special "Learn to Make Artisanal Cheese" this coming April 2010 at Twin Oaks Ranch in South Texas.

http://www.threeshepherdscheese.com/CheeseClasses.aspx

For a little cheesemaking follow-your-bliss inspiration, you might wish to lay hands on a DVD of "The Cheese Nun" She didn't "Dominique," like the Singing Nun, just dived into fromages like the Pont-l'&#201;v&#234;que:

http://www.fucheese.com/blog/2009/04/the-cheese-nun/


In the meantime, the folks at Slow Food Dallas have put together links to Texas cheesemakers that may be of interest:

http://www.slowfooddallas.com/sfdTexasCheesePlate.html#Cheesemakers

In fact, big D seems to revel in big cheese; they have at least 3 interesting cheese shops that I know of:

http://www.moltoformaggio.com/

http://scardellocheese.com/

http://www.mozzco.com/

Nevertheless, Houston wins out with me when it comes to a t&#234;te-&#224;-t&#234;te over a cheese plate. I like the one offered at Cafe Rabelais in Rice Village in Houston. I've tried cheese plates in Austin - most recently Mulberry's - and I've as of yet to find one as authentic, generous and value priced as the one at Cafe Rabelais.

http://www.caferabelais.com/Cheese%20Page.htm

However, if armchair travel is more your speed, an interesting mail order source outside of Texas is DiBruno's in Philadelphia. (Folks have opinions stronger than Stichelton as to their favorite fromage order source, so I'm sure you'll hear from others.) 

http://www.dibruno.com/

Finally, if you can get friendly with French (or at least with Google Translate), Montreal's La fromagerie Hamel offers a fantastic online cheese catalogue, featuring over 1000 products, that is an education unto itself.  I visited Montreal earlier this month and La fromagerie Hamel was one of my favorite cheese destinations.  

http://www.fromageriehamel.com/en/produits/fromages/index.php</content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 20 10:37:12 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>2844629</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>58986</id>
        <name>xalapenocharlie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5199279</id>
      <content>thanks for the great reply with lots of info.
i emailed pureluck about classes, but never got a response.
oh well, at least now i know there are lots of other options!
</content>
      <published_at>Sat Nov 21 19:31:32 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5196549</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>202980</id>
        <name>dinaofdoom</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5199325</id>
      <content>I took the Pure Luck class a few years back and it was great. They do it in May each year, after the kids are born. They'll put the info up on their website when it gets closer. </content>
      <published_at>Sat Nov 21 20:01:44 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5199279</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>239823</id>
        <name>ladylivewire</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5199381</id>
      <content>ohhhhh i didn't realize it was a once a year thing.
makes sense, given the seasons, now that i think about it.
i guess i was too early with my email!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Nov 21 20:42:02 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5199325</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>202980</id>
        <name>dinaofdoom</name>
      </user>
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