macarons?
I was walking around Guy-Concordia the other day and saw some cute little macarons on the display of Nocochi. Went in and inquired, but they told me that they are out and they won't be making any macarons.Taking aside the fact that it is stupid to display a product that you don't provide, are there any good places to get some macarons in town?Now that I saw them on display, I am craving like crazy.
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Bumping up this thread to report on a new macaron store. it seems to be a new outpost of Point G (original at 1266 Mont-Royal Est). This one is called Macarons & Chocolat- on Bernard at Hutchison. They've only been open a week and it's heavy on the slick interior. I bought 6 macarons for $9 (!). We thought the chewy consistency was great and the flavors nice and strong! But they were a bit sweet and surprisingly heavy on the cream.
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There's an online store that sells delicious French macarons and they are on sale right now: http://www.histoiresucree.com/meta_ca...
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re: mainsqueeze
That's because, as many North Americans don't seem to realise, the word 'macaron' in French (which is translated by the English word 'macaroon') describes an incredibly wide range of confections. Any little biscuit which is made using egg whites, sugar and ground nuts is, in French, called a 'macaron'. Amaretti are 'macarons', for example. And there are several very famous kinds of macaroon in France that look nothing like the kind discussed in this thread, but are definitely macaroons all the same. The very colourful, sandwiched-together, flying-saucer-shaped macaroons that we're talking about here are a quite recent invention compared to many classic/traditional macaroons and are properly called macarons parisiens to distinguish them from other kinds of biscuit.
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I bought an assortment of macarons for my brother at Christmas. I picked up^a sample of all of flavors from Gastronomia, Point G, La Maison du Macaron, and Esprithé. Noccoci does carry them, but I was unable to pick them up in time. The ones from Noccoci are made in Dubai and shipped over. The key to having the perfect macaron is freshness... make sure you can get them as close to freshly made as possible.
My favorites were bought from Esprithé (the jasmine scented is heavenly). These stood out because they are infused with tea flavor making their taste very unique. The flavors linger nicely.among their regular flavors.
In addition to their regular varieties (17 flavors I believe), La Mason du Macaron carried a limited edition box with flavors such as foie gras & fig, salmon & dill, olive oil & sundried tomato, raspberry & pepper, avocado & saffron, and my favorite of these... the goat cheese and squash.
Point G were good, but compared to the others, seemed a little bland.
Try Gastronomia if the idea of always having fresh macarons on hand appeals to you. I bought a box of 72 that can be defrosted in sections as needed... and yes, they ARE VERY GOOD despite being frozen.
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Patisserie de Gascogne started selling macarons again.
The same box as before. I was told by an employe of Pte-Claire patisserie that they were only testing the market, and they stopped selling them a bit before christmas. But I called today and asked and they said they were back on the shelves. -
I was at Costco today and noticed that they carry a package of 36 macarons for $20 in their freezer section. They are imported from France and the brand is White Toque. I am not an expert in the field of macarons but I thought I'd pass on the info for what it's worth.
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re: hungryann
My boss got me those on his recent visit to Costco
I like the outer layer, not chewy (old) nor brittle (too dry) The filling was like the creme fraiche filling of the Leonidas fruit-filled chocolate which is good by itself but it wasn't what I wanted in a macaron. I prefer a more buttercreamy texture for the filling. At least it wasn't the coyingly sweet "jam" like they do it at Maitre Chocolatier.When fresh I still prefer Marius & Fanny.
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Had a chance to sample several brands of macaron side by side at the Salon Passion Chocolat. The tasting is hardly exhaustive, as one just can't eat that much macaron in one go and still eat large quantities of chocolate. Still, it was fun to taste the differences between several brands of macaron. Here are a few comments:
1. Marius and Fanny: tried the chocolate, strawberry and pistachio macarons. The chocolate and strawberry macarons were very good, nice crispy outer layer, with a chewy nutty inner layer on the biscuit, and very nice fillings, if somewhat subtle in flavour. But the pistachio one was horrid! No pistachio taste at all, it tasted like coconut, very disappointing.
2. Christophe Morel: only tried the strawberry one. The colours on the CM macarons are very Day-Glo, which is fun. I found the strawberry flavour quite vibrant, and the texture was excellent. I would like to try more of these.
3. Point G: only had the chocolate-hazelnut one. The macaron is a pale brown hazelnut colour, with an odd dusting of dark brown crumbs no doubt added for artistic effect, but to me it looked a bit odd. But the flavour was spot on. Nice chewy texture, very nutty.
4. Esprit du The: had the rose one. Again,very vibrant colour, nice texture, although these ones were a little drier than the other macarons. The flavour is very subtle, I didn't notice a lot of rose flavour. But I liked the delicate nature of these macarons.
Well it looks like we will have to experiment with different flavours of macarons this holiday season. yummy little suckers!
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re: BLM
I can give you what info I have:
Christophe Morel Chocolatier
1241, Gay-Lussac
Boucherville
(450) 449 3040
www.rollandchocolatier.comHope that helps!
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re: moh
At first bite I did not like the Esprit du The rose macaron, thinking that that was not the taste I was looking for in a macaron. BUT, it kinda grew on me, and I went back to buy more to take home. Those were the only macarons I bought, apart from tasting several on site. The sugar buzz made me unable to sleep that night.
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Lesley Chesterman has a piece on macarons in the Gazette. Not sure how old it is because strangely there is no date anywhere, but it looks like it could be from today.
Macaron mania hits Montreal - finally!
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re: BLM
In my opinion - after trying 12 different places in Montreal and tasting over 100 different macarons - on the quest for THE best - my favorite were from Esprithé. They are really different from the others because their master chocolate maker from France mixes their blends of teas with 72% dark chocolate ganache for the flavors. You can even buy the tea to go with the macarons! My favorite - the orchid flavor and the spicy chocolate flavor (mixed with black tea and spices). To read all about our comments and findings and for the addresses and websites of the different macaron places we tried, go to:
http://www.zurbaines.com/1/Vos_Copine...
(in French only but at least you can see the photos of our top 3 and get the addresses) Enjoy!-
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re: BLM
Yes, he makes the macarons for Europea, too - but the ones he makes for Esprithé are different because he works together with the owner, Fabrice Perrin to mix the different teas in with the chocolate ganache. The ones we tasted from Europea didn't impress as much as these... !
Also, do try their chocolates! They are mixed with their different teas as well and made by Christophe Morel. We will be doing a comparison for February on the best "NEW" chocolate boutiques in Montreal.
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background: on a weekend trip to montreal from toronto... was excited at what appears to be a glut of bakeries producing macarons and thought that of the bunch i was likely to find a winner.
we've just made a couple stops so far and for the most part i am disappointed.
maison du macaron - two stale ones (caramel fleur de sel and cafe), mostly poorly textured and crumbly or overly soft but no "chewiness" what so ever (mango with pepper and hazelnut), hard gel filling for the fruit flavour (mango with pepper), best one of the bunch was pistachio (usually my main measure) and overall ok but not better than my best option in toronto, and a really bizarrely under-baked one ("flavour of the day" calvados) that was completely wet mush under the shell. 6 for $8. they only have the small ones or gigantic ones.
point g: awful. empty puffed crisp shell and pasty filling for the apple flavour. 1 for $1.70
i may have to find myself at europea, benelo, or esprithe though i'm not holding out much hope right now. can anyone do a cross comparison?
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re: carswell
esprithe is also undergoing renovations and won't have food product for the next couple weeks, just tea.
they have some wonderfully aromatic blends to match the macarons and made me seriously regret their lack of confections. will have to drop by the next time i'm in montreal, they seemed genuinely enthusiastic.
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re: Fritzy
Was there last week. The food and refrigerator cases are gone, though the espresso machine and grinder are still there. Didn't see anyone using them, however. A couple of clouds hung over the visit -- the owners' father had just passed away and I was under the weather -- so we didn't get around to discussing plans for the cafe, sorry to say. Will ask the next time I'm there. Local alternatives would include Nocochi, provided you don't mind Illy, though I suspect my focus is going to be shifting to Myriade.
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I found a new store on St-Denis near Mont-Royal, just opened Saturday. The name is Marius and Fanny. They have chocolates and coffee and macarons. The macaron supplier is from Ste-Dorothee. I haven't been to La Maison du Macaron yet.
I tried the box of 9 for $12 ($1.50 each): pistachio, praline, lemon, chocolate, rasperry. I skipped coffee.
The meringue is less dense than the Toronto bakery on King Street so for me it's better. The cream is unlike other macarons I've eaten (including Luxemburglis) maybe a bit too light. I will come back to get a 9-box of each flavor for a second round.
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Just seen this in the newspaper today :
Macarons en folie
Les macarons, ces petites gourmandises parisiennes dérivées de la meringue, arrivent à Montréal. Français d'origine, les chefs Gaëlle et Johan Crop ouvrent leur boutique ce samedi sur le Plateau. En tout, 16 saveurs de macaron y sont proposées - des classiques, comme chocolat ou framboise, aux plus tendance, comme noisette ou mangue poivrée.
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re: SnackHappy
They're now open.
lamaisondumacaron.com
I've just tried them... and they're definitely the best you can find in Montreal. The fruit flavored ones are not so great in my opinion (like every fruit macarons I've tasted in Montreal)... but the caramel and passion/chocolat are both quite amazing !
They also have the big individual format for the classic flavors.
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I've just tried a new (?) place on Mont-Royal called Point G. Macarons is not their speciality... they only had one flavour today (they told me that they usually have 3), but the one I had was pretty good and original... apricot/rosemary. The texture was perfect, they were really fresh... maybe not enough "filling" though. They told me that they were still working on the perfect recipe, so I think there's a lot of potential there.
They also have a good selection of sorbets/ice cream : raspberry/rose, mapple/pecan, apricot/rosemary, blueberry, pear, coconut/banana and a few others that I don't remember...
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re: Glaff
Ok folks, if you want REAL MACARONS (because I’ve seen way too many bad imitations here), I suggest you go to GASTRONOMIA ALIMENTS FINS INC, between Peel and Wellington. They actually import frozen macarons directly from FRANCE, and trust me, they do taste like real ones, simply because they are! I first went there to get a whole tray for my sister’s graduation party, but you can also get smaller packaging. They taste so good and look so cute and colourful! Go to www.gastronomia.ca to get their address.
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re: moh
i know, i first thought it wouldnt be as good as fresh ones too. but the texture of the buscuit is a bit crunchy and still smooth at the same time. its actually deep frozen macarons, so once you thaw them (which takes about 15 minutes max) it'`s like fresh ones. i used to be sceptic too, but trust me on this one, go taste them and you'll see!
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re: foxilla
Yes it's true... even Pierre Hermé recommends it !
Also... I've tried more macarons from Point G... they had 7 new flavors... but unfortunately, they had nothing to do with the first one I had... the texture was ok... but the filling... sugar sugar sugar... no distinguishable taste...
The best I've had in Montreal so far were... mine !
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re: souschef
The recipe I use is from Gerard Mulot's book (with a few modifications), but they're all pretty much the same.
It's almost the same as the one on this site (which I've used too) : http://www.puregourmandise.com/gourmandises.htm (in french
)For the baking... I've already tried Silpat, but it sticks most of the time... so now I use only parchment paper... with a bit of water under to remove the macaron when they're ready.
And yes, I've already the ones at Europea a few times... wasn't really impressed... they're probably the best you can find in Montreal (with the ones from Esprithé), but I don't know... it just doesn't feel like real parisians macarons... but I wouldn't know how to explain it !
If you want to see some of my latest ;) http://www.flickr.com/photos/glaff/27...
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On your recommendations, I went to ESPRITHE (tea house on Laurier street O in Montreal). One of the owners (He speaks English) explained to me that they were proposing only Macarons with different teas (green, wulong or black) in the chocolate . Their teas are mixed with some flowers, fruits and spices. My Goodness, I tried in many places (France too), but here I never ate something so "wonderful" (fresh, tasty and flavourful) 9/10 .Did you try their sorbets and Ice creams with their different teas ?
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re: alixium
Just stopped by Esprit Thé (112 Laurier West; Tel: 514-273-4087) and I agree their macarons are totally scrumptious inside and out! They have lots of rather exotic flavors so order a big variety. Really, I would have to say they are the best I have ever eaten! (Depending on who is working, you may need to speak French if that is a consideration.)
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re: nocochi
I have had decent macarons at Nocochi in the past. Recently, however, I've noticed that their macarons are way smaller than before, yet still outrageously priced at $1.25 each. Add that to the fact that a few times they have sold me stale items. I used to love nocochi but have been really disappointed with them lately.
They have sold me stale macarons and rock-hard marzipans. I'd paid a pretty penny for them, so those marzipans were hugely disappointing and have left me not wanting to go back there at all. Considering the prices they charge for their products, you'd think would make more of an effort to ensure freshness.
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re: mainsqueeze
Today I paid $1.50 for one at Nocochi, which I thought was way too high, considering how tiny they are. The taste was very nice (coffee flavoured) but the macaron outside was quite crunchy - not sure if that's their style, or it wasn't fresh, but I don't think I'd run back for them at that price. I still love their little cookies, though...
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re: cherylmtl
Is there a generally accepted duration that macarons are still at their prime -- anybody??? For little items this expensive I guess it pays to ask when they were made. As I posted further up on this thread , I have had perfect, moist delicious ones there but on other visits ones which were a bit dry and crumbly .
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re: Fritzy
To complicate matters further:
When you initially make a macaron, they are dry and crumbly until the cookie gets hydrated by the filling. So you do have to wait until they have "matured" to get that perfect moist macaron.
Dang! If I knew they were this popular... Hubbie makes a mean chocolate macaron at Christmas time....
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re: cherylmtl
I tried a few macarons from Nocochi and had a similar experience with the above posters. Too crunchy, hollow, and not much moisture left. I have to say that I think they were pretty stale. Such a ripoff, especially considering the price!
The cookies are still good though. I guess they either have a longer shelf life, or their turnover is better.
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re: emerilcantcook
I also recently tried the Nocochi marron and chocolate macarons. I don't believe they are stale, I think it is the style of the cookie they make. They were good, but they are a bit expensive for what you get. I have never eaten the mythical Pierre Hermes product, unfortunately. But from the adoration they elicit, I suspect that the Nocochi product doesn't quite match up.
It is almost winter. Will have to start encouraging the hubbie to start up the chocolate macaron factory...
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I'm curious whether many of you have tried to DIY, having such difficulty finding quality macarons. I use this recipe:
http://www.alacuisine.org/alacuisine/...
because it was the first thing that came up when I Googled "macaron recipe" a couple years ago, which is pretty much no-fail and never fails to impress.Honestly: 1. Beat eggs. 2. Almonds into blender. 3. Add Icing sugar to each. 4. Bake.
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Benelo, the café cum hair salon at 2145 Crescent, now has macarons as well as macaroons. Looked like there were eight or nine flavours. All are made "de façon artsanale" in Paris and flown in regularly by chef Alex. Price is $1.15 a shot. The lemon cookie I sampled was light, sweet and intensely flavoured, had a smooth and crunchy-crackly exterior and soft-bordering-on-gooey interior and made a delicious accompaniment to an americano.
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I got some macaron at http://nicolosibistro.com/ the other day. I asked the girl at the counter how fresh they were and she told me "yesterday," so I bought three. And though the flavours were pretty nice (lemon cream, pistachio, almond), each of them was stale. One especially was hard as a rock.
Bad news.
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Espace Euopea has a website for their macarons, go to www.macaronsexpress.com
It appears to offer shipping services for these tasty morsels. Also try Beniamo's on Viger (close to McGill) they are open until 9pm every night and they have good macarons!›3 Replies-
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re: Finn22
So is Europea the must-buy macaron in Montreal? I was underwhelmed by the ones offered by Les petites plaisirs d'Andrea - they had also been frozen. I'm not expecting Pierre Herme quality, but I'd like some solid options while up nort to tide me over until the Lauduree opens down here in NYC.
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I had the same experience. I saw the display, and I went in specicaly for the macarons. However, I don't think they ever really made them there. Nocochi is a Persian word, which is basically translated as chickpea pastry. I don't think macarons are made out of chickpea paste...
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re: foodie_mtl
Just because their names is Nocochi does not mean that they make only things with chickpea paste. They make lovely pate de fruits there - I love the black currant one. And while the chick pea cookies are delectable, they also make a great variety of cookies that are not made with chick peas.
I can vouch for the fact that they used to have Macarons there. I was always curious to try them but did not because I found them too expensive. I'm assuming that they didn't sell very well and they therefore decided to stop producing them.
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re: mainsqueeze
Yesterday I picked up a box of 16 macarons from Patisserie de Gascogne in Westmount. First the good news. They were extremely well-packed. The plastic box in which they came was solid, with dividers, and survived the car trip to the States. Compared to Euro-pricey macarons from Paris, they were cheap, about Canadian $13.50 for the box. They do look good. And the consistency and crunch is not bad.
Now for the bad news. I have very little basis for comparison to other Montreal macarons. I may have tried one or two over the years and was disappointed, but in the interest of science I thought these were worth a try. I can only compare them to the Parisian product.
They were found in the frozen section, between the boeuf bourguignonne and the mango sorbet, not a promising location for a delicate confection. Perhaps the Outremont store has them fresh, but in Westmount they were only frozen. However the fact that they invested in an extremely durable package suggests that generally they sell them this way.
Now for the taste. There is simply no comparison between the Pierre Herme macarons and these. Laduree in Paris also makes them, but over the years I have tasted Herme, but not Laduree so PH provides the gold standard. What each PH macaron offers is a series of imaginative and delicate flavors, subtly combined in a fashion that surprises and intrigues. The PG macarons were cloddy, one dimensional, and lacked all subtelty of taste. True I have yet to try all 16, but the two or three I tried suffered the same problem. Don't despair however: the PG macarons don't meet the PH standard, but they are available for emergency purposes, and they are on a par with the standard Paris product.
The best news of all is that you can buy a box of them and save the box, but not the contents, for your next trip to Paris. That way you can bring the good ones home safely.
Patisserie de Gascogne, locations
237 ave. Laurier O., Montreal (near Park) (Outremont) 514-490-0235
6095 boul. Gouin O., 514-331-0550
4825 rue Sherbrooke O, (near Victoria) (Westmount) 514-932-3551
940 boul. St.-Jean, Pointe-Claire, 514-697-2622
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re: foodie_mtl
Stopped by Noccoci Café twice, May 7th and 9th. I tried two macarons, almond and coffee, from a large selection of flavors. They were good but a bit dry and crumbly on the inside – not nearly as good as those at Benelo’s. I stopped by again two days later and tried the green pistachio flavor. This time the interior was soft and moist – a delicate and tasty delight! I guess the one’s I had earlier were a bit past their prime. Of course I couldn’t resist several selections of their chick pea based mini-cookies, which were wonderful as always. Their Illy based espresso was better than on any of my previous visits – smooth and well-balanced. As always, the ambience was very relaxing and the service very friendly. I have a hard time walking past that place without stopping in.
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In the Guy-Conc 'hood, the café front end of Bénélo Café Coiffure (2145 Crescent, 514 844-1410) had coconut macaroons the last time I was there. Not too sweet and more like the ones my mother used to make than the cookies you'll find in a fancy bakery.
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re: carswell
I don't think the OP is asking about macaroons, but rather macarons which are a French cookie-like pastry that come in different colours and flavours.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaron vs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaroon
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re: BLM
While most of us know the difference between macaron and macaroon, the arbiters of the English language (e.g. the NYTimes and standard issue spell-checkers) have not yet recognized it. A macaroon is a horrid heavy coconut gullet catching concoction typically sold around Passover, available only in bipolar variation, black or white. A macaron is a light polychromatic delight, available in endless flavors of fruit, spice, and other ingredients. In Paris, you can find pistachio, rose, jasmin, safron, litchi, caramel, olive oil. The list is endless. The best of them, made by Pierre Herme, are incredibly good. Does anybody in Montreal make anything comparable to the Paris product?
Technically speaking however, macaron is simply the French for the English macaroon. In fact they are two significantly different pastries.
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re: VivreManger
I'd be interested in knowing what you think of the macarons at Europea. Tiny jewels of bright colours, a nice assortment of flavours, and I find them delightful: not too sweet, with a very good texture. This is the only place I've ever had them though, so I'm not a good judge!
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re: phedre
Upon the recommendations in this thread, I stopped by Europea last Friday and purchased one of each flavour of macarons. (There are eight). We were very pleased with them.
My favourites were:
Lemon
Pistachio
Rose petal
There was also an orange one that I believe was passion-fruit flavoured. It was great.My least favourites were:
choco-mint
cranberry
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re: mainsqueeze
I went to Euopea earlier this week to try some as well. I have to put a disclaimer here about the fact that it was the first time I tasted this stuff (they don't exist in most parts of US), so I might not be getting it. In sum, I was a little bit underwhelmed. The texture was quite pleasant, but the flavors were too too subtle for my taste. Perhaps this is the nature of the product itself, but seeing the bright colors I expected a little explosion in my mouth. Instead, you really had to concentrate to get the differences in flavors. But then again, I might not be getting the whole macaron thing. Now I have to try the Pierre Herme versions now to see if they are really my thing.
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re: SnackHappy
I did try 5 of them. Lemon, pistachio, rose petal, cranberry and something else that I can't remember (see I can't even remember the flavor). Perhaps my palate was off that day. I might give them another chance because I don't want to admit that I am a midwestern hick who doesn't get the subtlety of macarons :)
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re: swissfoodie
You mean Chocolaterie Suisse, 2080 Crescent.
http://www.chocolateriesuisse.com/English.html
They advertise in the magazine for Swiss expats. They told me they import their chocolate from Confiserie Tschirren (http://www.swiss-chocolate.ch/ - same photos of truffles) in Bern and they don't seem to have the biggest turnover, so I've hesitated on the chocolate.
But fresh Leckerli would be great later in the year, but more Basler than Bern, no?
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re: VivreManger
pierre herme has the recipe for his chocolate macarons (with step by step photo in)structions in last month's issue of Regale.
Regale (sp?)isthe french (from france) food magazine people were discussing on this forum a couple of weeks ago. I was able to find it at the depaneur type store that sells magazines at marche atwater (near the atwater door on the second floor).
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re: carswell
Benelo's had about a half dozen flavors of macaroons on display when I was there Feb 21st. I had the coffee flavored one to go with their nice light espresso. I am no expert on macaroons but it was a delightful two or three bites -- $1.15 per cookie, though. As carswell noted: not too sweet, just right.
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