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<topic>
  <id>428950</id>
  <title>Shopsin's in the Essex Street Market</title>
  <published_at>Tue Aug 07 14:56:50 -0700 2007</published_at>
  <post_count>25</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>18</id>
    <name>Manhattan</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>2822950</id>
        <content>Has anyone tried it since it reopened?  also, are there any seats or tables or do you just get it to go?

although Shopsin's never reallys seemed to be a takeout joint, the experience of it was actually eating there.</content>
        <published_at>Tue Aug 07 14:56:50 -0700 2007</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>10866</id>
          <name>kevin</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2824653</id>
      <content>We went there, but it was closed for the day. But just by looking at it -- and the new menu -- it's not the Shopsin's we knew and loved. At all.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 08 07:03:19 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2822950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>111066</id>
        <name>DJS</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2824996</id>
      <content>What do you mean by that? Haven't checked out the new one yet, but am curious about the space. What did it look like?</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 08 08:39:11 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2824653</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>67215</id>
        <name>williej33</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2824705</id>
      <content>...couldn't find the menu on menupages.com, is there another place to view the menu?  This restaurant sounds intriguing!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 08 07:18:00 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2822950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>110996</id>
        <name>LeahBaila</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2825007</id>
      <content>it's on their site.
http://shopsins.com/</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 08 08:41:15 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2824705</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15968</id>
        <name>lanadai</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2825027</id>
      <content>Thanks!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 08 08:44:19 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2825007</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>110996</id>
        <name>LeahBaila</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2825051</id>
      <content>the menu is now 2 pages rather than 7 or 9 pages.

also, didn't know it but the day after i posted my question, a review appeared in the Wednesday food section of the times.  and the space doesn't look anything like the previous locales.  maybe he'll fill it up with trinkets and other stuff in the ensuing days to make it a little more cozy and claustrophobic.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 08 08:50:20 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2825027</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10866</id>
        <name>kevin</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>2825068</id>
      <content>The menu looks great!  Can't wait to go try this place...</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 08 08:54:06 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2825051</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>110996</id>
        <name>LeahBaila</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2827610</id>
      <content>Shopsin's is in a corner of the market; they have seating for about 15 people, and then only because they can push out some tables and chairs beyond their nighttime security gate. There's a little wall space, but precious little shelf or countertop space, for knickknacks and doodads.

Liked the sloppy joe, even if it was strictly a knife-and-fork item. I prefer the old-school cafeteria style, though, with less tomato-pepper-onion panache and more ground beef.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 08 20:32:00 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2822950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14517</id>
        <name>DaveCook</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2827624</id>
      <content>I have always been kind of scared to go there. Do they yell at you? But I love the sound of the food, like the blue cheese malted milkshake.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 08 20:37:43 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2822950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>43257</id>
        <name>KateC.</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2827843</id>
      <content>once they moved to the second location they softened up a bit.

but you'll always hear a lot of foul language and banter from the family members.
(as in kenny complaining about his son being lazy ass and whatnot, but it's all in good fun).

anyone know if jose is still there too?

also, who doesn't get a kick out of a place that has a placard above the kitchen touting that "all our cooks wear condoms"

dishes that sound good or weird, depending on your pov:

burmese hummus
taco fried chicken
slutty pancakes
postmodern pancakes
mac n cheese pancakes
the blue cheese shake
orange julius
blisters on my sisters.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 08 22:30:28 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2827624</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10866</id>
        <name>kevin</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2827891</id>
      <content>Thanks, Kevin. Slutty pancakes -- lots of different things in them?</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 08 23:18:03 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2827843</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>43257</id>
        <name>KateC.</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2827935</id>
      <content>pumpkin, pistachio, peanut butter, cinnamon</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 09 00:12:30 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2827891</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10496</id>
        <name>squid kun</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>2833089</id>
      <content>Had an errand in Brooklyn this AM, returned and immediately got on the M9 bus and headed to Shopsin.  Those slutty cakes sounded too good to resist (especially since I have a cold and it is a rainy, miserable day).   They were amazing and served with a slice of cantalope and fresh fig.  Zack suggested I eat them just plain w/out butter and syrup.  Yum!   Also had a side of vegan breakfast sausages, good but prefer Squire's turkey breakfast sausages. They also have turkey bacon on the menu for my fellow non-red meat eaters. I have not been to Clinton Street Bakery (I hate waiting in  lines).  This is one of the best breakfasts I have had in a very long time (not counting traditional NYC bagels/bialies/nova bkfst).  And I do not use "best" and "great" often or loosely.  They only take cash and quality does not come cheap ($24).  I had breakfast at Gold diner earlier this week and it set me back $17 and wasn't worth it (partly because I broke my rule about ordering Huevos Rancheros in a diner).  Only good thing about Gold is they are open 24 hours and service is supposed to be getting better.    Love those slutty cakes!</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 10 10:25:06 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2827935</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>73159</id>
        <name>financialdistrictresident</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>2833430</id>
      <content>no shopsin's is never cheap, think on at least 20 to 30 per for breakfast including tax and tip.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 10 11:39:39 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2833089</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10866</id>
        <name>kevin</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2829092</id>
      <content>Jose did not make the move to Essex, which is a loss, in my view.  The space is very small, and son Zack is cooking in his stead.  I think Jose may have landed at Grey Dog Cafe on Carmine.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 09 09:37:46 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2827843</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14067</id>
        <name>americanafan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2830216</id>
      <content>is Zack the youngest son, who's usua. sporting the backwards baseball cap???</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 09 13:39:26 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2829092</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10866</id>
        <name>kevin</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2830230</id>
      <content>I do my food shopping at Essex and am not sure I know where Shopsin (I pretty much shop and go) is.  Is this the place that was upstairs and had a great brunch aroma or somewhere else?  Those slutty pancakes sound really good . . .</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 09 13:43:11 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2822950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>73159</id>
        <name>financialdistrictresident</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2830239</id>
      <content>haven't been yet, but it's stall No.16 according to the times.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 09 13:45:06 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2830230</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10866</id>
        <name>kevin</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2830252</id>
      <content>Thanks.  I think the place I'm thinking of is you enter on Rivington, not upstairs.  Their kitchen was downstairs in the corner.  </content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 09 13:47:13 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2830239</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>73159</id>
        <name>financialdistrictresident</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2830282</id>
      <content>That's Essex Restaurant.  Shopsin's is at the south end of the market, behind Saxelby Cheese.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 09 13:54:10 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2830252</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13722</id>
        <name>small h</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>2830385</id>
      <content>supposedly it's real convenient to have the cheesemonger next door</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 09 14:21:52 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2830282</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10866</id>
        <name>kevin</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2837518</id>
      <content>I had never made it to the original locations notwithstanding being intrigued by Trillin's descriptions. My loss. I went to Essex Market yesterday shortly after they opened and all I can say is that Kenny is certainly prose-worthy. They were filled up so I killed 10 minutes at Saxelby's which is the civilized yin to Shopsin's insane yang. Sampled some great cheeses as usual and took a wedge of Grayson's to hold me over. As luck would have it, I snagged a bar stool directly in front of the window to the kitchen. Kenny's son Zach, the cook, had overslept and Kenny had an APB out on him. His daughter was frantically waiting tables as Kenny heaped affectionate abuse on her, yelling "ding dong please" whenever a plate was ready for pick-up rather than ringing the actual bell. A woman brought her wide-eyed baby into the kitchen at Kenny's invitation at the exact moment that Kenny got a call that his son wasn't there because he had overslept. Kenny then lectured the baby about the evils of smoking too much "dope". "Just say no!" he laughed. I ordered the cheeseburger slyders and a chocolate malted. Kenny's daughter apologized that her brother made the malteds and he wasn't in yet. I ordered a chocolate egg cream instead that was as good as any in NYC. Kenny subsequently growled, "make him a malted assh*&amp;e" for my benefit. More interestingly, the pancakes, eggs and everything else that was coming out of the kitchen looked amazing. I nibbled my cheese under the table and ordered the cheeseburger slyders. 3 little beauties on potato rolls with caramelized onions were so good that I forgot to ask for ketchup. The menu has been compressed from the original but still could take a lifetime to go through. I will start now.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Aug 12 05:00:30 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2822950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10173</id>
        <name>guttergourmet</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2837721</id>
      <content>Great reading. Thanks!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Aug 12 07:34:54 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2837518</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>43257</id>
        <name>KateC.</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3154157</id>
      <content>Went back intending to check out the Essex Street Market including the new chocolate truffle place and try a duck rillette sandwich from Paradou but was astounded to see Shopsins completely empty except for Kenny Shopsin himself holding court with his daughters and son. I sheepishly asked if they were closed and Kenny said they were just slow and that he much preferred it that way. I joked that if it weren't for dealing with customers, I'd enjoy my work more too. Kenny said that he actually designed the new place to fail though I regretfully informed him that he had failed to meet such objective. I couldn't resist ordering the slyders again (I'm never gonna get through the menu) which Kenny advised he had eaten for breakfast and lunch and shared my fries with him. We then spoke for about 20 minutes about life, economics, real estate, the Essex Market, gentrification and exchanged politically incorrect ethnic jokes. Kenny's acerbic and self-deprecating wit and obvious intelligence were only slightly more enjoyable than those unbelievable slyders. Next time gonna try Kenny's suggestion of a Satchmo sandwich-fried andouille with cheese.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Nov 25 19:16:11 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2837518</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10173</id>
        <name>guttergourmet</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3172526</id>
      <content>darn i gotta here soon, i guess he's downsizing now.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Dec 02 09:10:42 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>3154157</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10866</id>
        <name>kevin</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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