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Boston Chowhound in LA...what not to miss?

AnjLM Aug 3, 2007 11:48 AM

I'm visiting a friend in LA (Pasadena to be exact) next weekend for 4 days and I'm really excited to try all the food LA has to offer. My friend plans to take me to Thai Town and Little Ethiopia and I've already decided to have sushi at Sushi Gen in Little Tokyo (please don't give me any more sushi suggestion...I've already changed my mind about 50 times! see post: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/424201). I'm pretty adventurous and would really like to try things that are unique to LA or that you feel LA does better than Boston. I know I want to try some Mexican (Boston lacks this) but my friend doesn't know where to go, any suggestions? What other cuisines/restaurants shouldn't be missed during my trip? Please keep in mind that I will only be there for 4 days and there is only so much food I can eat! Also, I would like to steer clear of fine dining restaurants and mostly hit up ethnic cuisine/LA specialities that I cannot get at home. One last request (am I pushing it?): I'm not familiar with LA so it'd be great if you could provide me with either the addresses or neighborhoods of your recommendations. Thanks in advance!

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  1. Servorg Aug 3, 2007 12:04 PM

    One of our most revered Mexican food items are fish tacos. Here is an excellent thread to give you something to "chew on."

    http://www.chowhound.com/topics/422859

    For gourmet / high end Mexican there have been many excellent posts for Babita (I still have not been) over the years with a few very vocal dissenters who abhor paying big bucks for this genre of food.

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    Babita
    1823 S San Gabriel Blvd, San Gabriel, CA 91776

    1. SauceSupreme Aug 3, 2007 12:34 PM

      I'm not too familiar with Boston -- what cuisines do you feel Boston does well? LA's a veeery diverse city, and you're already doing well by hitting up Thai Town and Little Ethiopia.

      If you're really adventurous, perhaps you should visit The Prince in Koreatown.

      http://www.deependdining.com/2005/07/...

      All kidding aside, I would recommend going somewhere in Koreatown. You can even hit two birds with one stone by stopping into Guelaguetza for great Oaxacan.

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        Servorg Aug 3, 2007 01:17 PM

        Korean is an excellent idea. If the OP is up for something he definitely won't be finding in Boston he might head over to O Dae San for a nice bowl of Al Bap. While this place can be really $$$$ the Al Bap is only about $15. Here is link to Jonathan Gold's review and, more importantly, a great description of what Al Bap consists of.

        http://www.laweekly.com/eat+drink/cou...

        O-Dae San
        2889 W Olympic Blvd, Los Angeles 90006
        Btwn Fedora St & S Kenmore Ave
        Phone: 213-383-9800

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          Foodandwine Aug 3, 2007 01:48 PM

          al bap and hwe do bap oh my god those are sooo good. I am going this weeknd I forgot all about that and in the summer months very refreshing lunch..

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            Diana Aug 4, 2007 09:12 AM

            yes yes! O-Dae San is AMAZING!

            I gotta go again soon!

        2. re: SauceSupreme
          AnjLM Aug 3, 2007 10:22 PM

          Boston does do some cuisines well. We have some great burgers, ice cream, Portuguese food, seafood, pizza, Italian, and the best cheese shop ever! We definitely lack when it comes to Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese, sushi (although there is one great sushi restaurant).

        3. Local Aug 3, 2007 12:45 PM

          Hope your visit involves a trip to Jitlada for Thai! and if not, read below...you may want to rethink your plans ;-)
          http://www.chowhound.com/topics/414265

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            WHills Aug 3, 2007 01:55 PM

            King's Taco by the 710 FWY and Atlantic Blvd.

            Din Tai Fung in Arcadia off of Baldwin Ave or Mei Long Village or J&J on Valley Blvd by Del Mar Ave and New Ave for soup dumplings (xiao long bao).

            For Korean, Young Dong in Arcadia off of Huntington Ave by Santa Anita Ave does a good job with soon tofu.

            Grab some dim sum at Sea Harbour on Rosemead Blvd by Valley or 888 on Valley Blvd for some Chinese.

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              JE33 Aug 3, 2007 05:00 PM

              You've got to go for Chinese food in the San Gabriel Valley. There is nothing in Boston that is like it.

              Also, if you change your mind on "fine dining" you might want to consider Providence or Water Grill...my experience is that the seafood restaurants in Boston are much worse than Bostonians believe them to be....

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                JBC Aug 3, 2007 06:35 PM

                Going to the Boston CH Board, a 3 year old thread (forgot to bookmark it) of around 100 entries discussed and listed the cuisine styles that Boston lacked. The ones that jumped out were:

                German
                East Eurpoean
                Sushi
                Soul Food
                Cajun
                N.Y. Deli (a "good" one).
                Mexican with moles

                Now most of those you can partake of in different cities, like going to NYC; however some ideas not previously covered so far:

                Lowenbrou Keller - German - L.A. (213) 382-5723
                This place is LOADED with Character & Charm and Boston seams to have just J. Writh (more Swiss, than German) & the Jasmine Bistro is close with a French-Hungarian-Middle Eastern Menu (what a combo). So if you haven't gotten a German meal in a while, than here you can.
                Scroll down to the "very" bottom for a little bio and some pics (enlargable):
                http://latimemachines.com/new_page_3.htm

                Polka - Polish - Eagle Rock
                Not as good as Warswawa in Santa Monica, but lots closer.
                http://www.polkacatering.com

                Harold & Bell's - Cajun, Soul Food, & Creole - L.A.
                I haven't been, and it's not that cheap.
                http://losangeles.menupages.com/restaurantdetails.asp?areaid=0&restaurantid=26638&neighborhoodid=0&cuisineid=15&home=Y

                Mexican Mole - Coming soon or Not coming soon - Can't think of Oaxacan close to Pasadena at the moment. Repost if your interested in this.

                How's the Burmese food in Boston? You might be interested in this pictoral report in Whittier:
                http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_addic...

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                1. re: JBC
                  Emme Aug 3, 2007 10:20 PM

                  Seems like you're willing to drive, so I'll give a range of suggestions...

                  Eastern European...
                  Warszawa on Lincoln in Santa Monica for Polish
                  Traktir for Russian

                  Cajun...
                  Creole Chef
                  Uncle Darrow's
                  Ragin Cajun Cafe

                  Deli
                  Langer's for Pastrami
                  Brent's Deli
                  Nate'n'Al's for traditional rudities of the longtime staff and regulars :-)

                  Sushi...
                  closer to Pasadena in the valley...
                  Tama
                  Asanebo

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                  Langer's Delicatessen
                  704 S Alvarado St, Los Angeles, CA 90057

                  Asanebo
                  11941 Ventura Blvd, Studio City, CA 91604

                  Brent's Deli
                  19565 Parthenia St, Northridge, CA 91324

                  Tama Sushi
                  11920 Ventura Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 91604

                  Warszawa Restaurant
                  1414 Lincoln Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90401

                  Traktir
                  8151 Santa Monica Blvd, West Hollywood, CA 90046

                  Ragin Cajun Cafe
                  422 Pier Ave, Hermosa Beach, CA 90254

                  Creole Chef
                  3715 Santa Rosalia Dr, Los Angeles, CA 90008

                  Nate 'n Al's Deli & Restaurant
                  414 N Beverly Dr, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

                  Uncle Darrow's
                  2560 Lincoln Blvd, Venice, CA 90291

                  1. re: JBC
                    AnjLM Aug 3, 2007 10:26 PM

                    I think there is one Burmese restaurant in Boston that I know of but I haven't been to it yet. Not sure how interested I am in German or Polish food but Cajun sounds great...are there many Cajun restaurants in LA? or is this just a good restaurant that you recommend?

                    1. re: AnjLM
                      Woolsey Aug 3, 2007 11:02 PM

                      There was a big wave of immigration by African-Americans from Louisiana (especially New Orleans) to Los Angeles in the mid-twentieth century to take advantage of the superior employment opportunities in the city, and there remains a vibrant Lousiana culture in this city to this day. (In fact, after Hurricane Katrina, another significant wave of immigrants came in to be near their families already living here.) Because of their heritage, L.A. is blessed with some very good, very authentic Creole restaurants. Harold & Belle's on Jefferson is the most famous, but it's certainly not the only one. And yes, they tend to be very authentic.

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                    another_adam Aug 3, 2007 10:46 PM

                    I'm an LA->BOS transplant, and I'd have to say that I miss just about every category of LA food, but for sure the obvious ones like Korean, Japanese, Mexican, Persian, etc. are something to be experienced.

                    For some good (and decidedly not high end) Mexican food, you might enjoy going to the Grand Central Market (on Broadway, downtown)-- I've always enjoyed the burritos at Ana Maria's, particularly the fish burritos. It's a fun place to walk around (think Haymarket, but with LA flavors), and you can walk around the neighborhood and check out sights like the Bradbury Bldg, etc. (Hint: you'd probably want to split a burrito with someone, if you hope to eat again on the same day!!) There's so many mexican places with different specialties in town that it's hard to point to anything in particular as uniquely "not to miss", but I myself yearn most for the Oaxacan food of LA with its moles, tlayudas, chapulines, and so on-- there are several branches of Guelaguetza (I've only been to the Palms and Olympic locations, they're both quite good-- though actually, I hold a soft spot in my heart for Monte Alban on the westside, at Santa Monica & Brockton (just east of Bundy)

                    As others have mentioned, a trip to Koreatown is eye-opening. Although I do love al bap and hwe dop bap, I might actually recommend something more distinct from the sushi/japanese-influenced side of Korean cuisine. One good place if you're not terribly familiar with Korean food is Choseon Galbi, on Olympic just west of Western. (If you're already familiar with Korean food, I have a whole stack of different recommendations, if you're interested-- picking a good Korean place often requires having a more specific idea of what dish you want)

                    It sounds like you've already got a Japanese plan, and indeed, good sushi is something that's hard to come by in Boston (=almost impossible, with perhaps one exception as you've already mentioned). Then again, I would probably have been inclined to recommend something from one of the dozens of other categories of Japanese food that are completely utterly missing from Boston-- a good izakaya place, or a curry/spaghetti house, or a udon place, or okonomiyaki place, or something like that. Most of the really good ones are a bit of a drive from Pasadena (my own favorites are mostly in Gardena or in West LA), but Haru Ulala in Little Tokyo is good and closer by. A compromise with great cooked dishes and also good sushi is Torafuku, in West LA (pico @ westwood), with the absolutely best rice in all of LA, in my opinion :)

                    Also, though it's kind of an unlikely choice for that "uniquely LA experience", I have to say that one of the things we've had a hard time adjusting to in the move east is the lack of good burgers! (I know this is a perennial topic on the boston board, and certainly there's dozens of possible places-- but both the style and the quality are really something different in LA)
                    We also quite miss soul food (well, Aunt Kizzy's in particular), Japanese-Peruvian food, Sri Lankan food, and Hawaiian food, but that generally requires a trip south to the Gardena area (see multiple threads on this board re Hawaiian food)... and lots more

                    Coincidentally, I was just in LA last weekend for a visit and the inevitable eating frenzy. I was in West LA and my eating choices were partly geographically determined, so they wouldn't necessarily make sense from Pasadena, but in case it's helpful to know what some nostalgic ex-Angelenos ate on a visit from exile, here's the (embarassingly long) list of what what we consumed-- at least, what I remember through the haze :)

                    -- Terried Sake house (Japanese izakaya food)
                    -- Raku (also izakaya, one of my LA faves)
                    -- Jeonju (Korean, specializes in bibimbap and stews)
                    -- Papa Cristos (greek taverna)
                    -- Monte Alban (oaxacan)
                    -- Kotohira (specializes in udon-- I lie awake at night in boston dreaming of their shoyu udon)
                    -- Brent's deli (enormous portions, pastrami and half sours of a kind that are getting hard to find even in NYC)
                    -- Amandine (japanese french-style bakery)
                    -- Pinkberry (i have to admit, i'm an addict. I hit them multiple times on every visit for their plain flavor and perfectly ripe fruit)
                    -- Hannam market world for "german bakery" daifuku-style mochi
                    -- Nandarang for lots of soju, and bingsu (korean shave ice with fruit and red beans)
                    -- In 'n out

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                    Monte Alban
                    11927 Santa Monica Blvd, Los Angeles, CA

                    Raku Restaurant
                    11678 W Olympic Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90064

                    Terried Sake House
                    11617 Santa Monica Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90025

                    Kotohira Restaurant
                    1747 W Redondo Beach Blvd, Gardena, CA 90247

                    Guelaguetza
                    3014 W Olympic Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90006

                    Cafe Seoul Nandarang
                    3815 W 6th St, Los Angeles, CA 90020

                    Grand Central Market
                    317 S Broadway, Los Angeles, CA 90013

                    Chosun Galbi Restaurants
                    3330 W Olympic Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90019

                    Torafuku Restaurant
                    10914 W Pico Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90064

                    Hannam Super Market
                    2740 W Olympic Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90006

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                      comedor Aug 3, 2007 11:15 PM

                      Even if I moved to San Diego, what I'd miss about LA is Guelaguetza! I'd bet good money Boston lacks anything close to it.

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                        SauceSupreme Aug 3, 2007 11:37 PM

                        Yup. Sometimes all you want is a great mole and tlayuda.

                      2. re: another_adam
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                        bulavinaka Aug 4, 2007 06:59 AM

                        Wow - great post for just about any out-of-towner to read. Two things among the many great recs caught my eye. Okonomiyaki (Gaja Moc) and Peruvian-Japanese (Kotosh at Kamiyama - they also do sushi), both in Lomita, and literally a stone's throw away from each other.

                        Both of these types of food are a very rare find even in LA. In Japan, okonomiyaki is relatively common, especially at festivals, where they will make them on huge grills by the dozens. In Hiroshima, stands and restos serving okonomiyaki outnumber taquerias in LA. In general, good okonomiyaki in LA comes out of the homes of Japanese transplants. To find a place that is set up for it and encourages patrons to try making their own is even more rare. Gaja Moc fits this bill.

                        Caddy corner to where Gaja is located is Kotosh at Kamiyama. I think Jonathan Gold finally did a brief writeup on them about a few weeks ago (come to think of it, I think J. Gold has written up most of these places mentioned). Kotosh is a true anomaly in LA, serving not only Peruvian food but sushi as well. Strange at first thought, but when one considers that Peru is blessed with a coastline that offers some of the best commercial fishing in the world (except when El Nino hits) along with a very large Japanese immigrant population, I'm surprised that places like Kotosh aren't the rule.

                        I don't know if one could do both places back-to-back, but doing one or the other could be then coupled with a trip to Patisserie Chantilly, which is next door to Gaja. Chantilly is a patisserie with a French-Japanese spin on things, and one of my favorite places to get desserts. The care they take in creating their desserts and the quality in their ingredients is hard to match anywhere. And please try their coffee. Their coffee is more like a great espresso with a nice mottled crema on top that is served up in a precious manner, with a small cup of cream and two types of sugars on the side. This style and serving method is common in the patisseries and coffee shops in Japan, and I wish it were more common here as well. It's a great cuppa joe. Also, bringing a small ice chest might help if you're planning on taking home their desserts.

                        One of my friends who is from Peru says that some of the best Peruvian eateries that he's eaten at in both Peru as well as here are owned by Japanese-Peruvians. However, his favorite is actually owned by a Chinese-Peruvian. El Rocoto on Artesia in Gardena (a few shops over from the 99 Ranch market) serves up great renditions of traditional Peruvian dishes but also has very respectable Chinese dishes as well. The restaurant's namesake is a Peruvian chile from which Peru's other famous sauce is made - a red picante sauce that goes well with so many of the dishes. And they do have the green sauce (aji) made famous in LA by El Pollo Inca as well.

                        And of course there's Los Balcones del Peru in Hollywood. Although I've yet to try this place (but wanting to with great anticipation), if SauceSupreme gives this place a big thumbs-up, then what more needs to be said.

                        Gaja Moc
                        2383 Lomita Blvd #102
                        Lomita, CA 90717
                        310-534-0153
                        http://www.potatomato.com/mt/archives/002388.html

                        Kotosh at Kamiyama
                        2408 Lomita Blvd
                        Lomita, CA 90717
                        310-257-1363
                        http://www.kotoshatkamiyama.com/

                        Patisserie Chantilly
                        2383 Lomita Blvd #104
                        Lomita, CA 90717
                        310-257-9454
                        http://www.patisseriechantilly.com/

                        El Rocoto
                        1356 W. Artesia Blvd
                        Gardena, CA 90247
                        310-768-8768
                        http://www.elrocoto.com/

                        Los Balcones del Peru
                        1360 Vine St.
                        Hollywood, CA 90028
                        323-871-9600
                        http://www.taste-buzz.com/continuing-...

                      3. mcmal Aug 3, 2007 10:48 PM

                        I also vote for Chinese in the San Gabriel Valley. My plug is for Chungking, for Sichuan (if you like hot and spicy dishes).
                        Also try some Vietnamese. And don't forget about the taco stands and trucks.

                        1. Woolsey Aug 3, 2007 11:33 PM

                          When my family comes in from out of town - not from Boston, of course, but the South - I tend to vary up the places. Good Chinese and Mexican are always on the menu. Unfortunately, they're too xenophobic for me to get them to try Thai, Vietnamese, Korean. But they love the old-fashioned L.A. establishments. They think it's a kick to get the original French dip at Philippe the Original, and it's to the point that I can't NOT take them to Roscoe's House of Chicken 'n' Waffles. (Hey, Chris Tucker got killed for Roscoe's in "Jackie Brown"!) My parents have been asking me about Pink's lately; this is where I draw the L.A. institution line. You've got better things to do with your time. But Tommy's? Yeah, I might recommend snarfing down one of those. There goes that myth of L.A. people's all eating alfalfa sprouts. If you've never had a Double-Double from SoCal legend In-N-Out, by all means, drive through and get one. Truly, Los Angeles is the burger capital of America.

                          And while L.A. does all sorts of other cultures' foods really well, take some time to have a great California cuisine meal while you're here. There are lots of places you could go - Table 8, Spago, Patina, and so on - but, if I had to pick just one, I'd have to pick Lucques. It's really an amazing restaurant, laid-back and simple, with a small outdoor patio, serving California-French-Mediterranean food. The restaurant even has a Hollywood connection - the building was silent film star Harold Lloyd's carriage house, and part of an episode of "Entourage" was shot there. Suzanne Goin (who won a James Beard Award last year) epitomizes the style of cooking so typical of our homegrown chefs right now, and I don't think you can really get a meal quite like you can at Lucques - or any of the other of our top California cuisine restaurants - in anywhere region of the world but, well, California. We have our own cuisine here, and it would be a shame to miss it.

                          -----
                          Philippe the Original
                          1001 N Alameda St, Los Angeles, CA 90012

                          Roscoe's House of Chicken
                          1518 N Gower St, Los Angeles, CA 90028

                          Tommy's Original World Famous
                          2575 Beverly Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90057

                          In-N-Out Burger
                          2114 E Foothill Blvd, Pasadena, CA 91107

                          Lucques
                          8474 Melrose Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90069

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                            b0ardkn0t Dec 17, 2007 12:41 PM

                            The original In-N-Out Burger is in Baldwin Park, although now closed(ate there many burgers as a kid) I can say it was definitely the best burger at any In-N-Out I ever ate at and I've eaten at many up and down California and east to west where it's found. There is a new restaurant across the I-10 from the original, as are their training and distribution headquarters. I believe Mrs. Snyder still lives close by in the city of Glendora, in eastern SGV, although Mr. Snyder passed away a time ago, I think some of the children live in OC, Irvine or something.

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                            tarot480 Aug 4, 2007 12:02 AM

                            If you want good Mexican food you must go to El Cholo there is one inPasadena but the original is still better, If you want a more fast food type, then go to Poquito Mas near universal studios across from Miceli's their pork burrito is good mojado style is better,
                            and if you want Deli Canters is good since Langer's closes around 4pm. Have a good trip!

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                              AnjLM Aug 4, 2007 08:27 AM

                              Thanks for all the replies! I really think I should extend my trip so I can try and fit all this food in my belly. Now I just need to narrow down my choices. I'll make sure to report back when I return from LA.

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                                bulavinaka Aug 4, 2007 08:38 AM

                                I've lived here all of my life and have only scratched the surface of this great city's foods. Good luck!

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