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Furture Throwdown with Bobby Flay u'd like to see

Im hooked on this show so far every recipe ive tried except for one has been great. Some throwdowns I really hope they'll do are

Lobster Roll, or anything to do with lobster

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  1. Ha! I like to watch to see Bobby humbled a bit or at least act like he's humbled. Anyway, I'd like to see these three as throwdowns:

    Enchiladas or Tamales
    Spaghetti and Meatballs

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    1. re: free sample addict aka Tracy L

      Latkes! Oy vey, I'd like to see that one. Have him against a bubbe from Brooklyn living in a nursing home, who's been making them since 1899 from scratch on some old rusty box grater (because you know, the rust and bits of finger skin are what give her latkes their characteristic authentic flavor). I can see him pulling out his fancy food processor, doing his usual southwestern spin and trying to do a sweet potato latke, with a chipotle spiced sour cream, it would just be SO wrong!

      BTW - I actually like him, and the show, but in this instance, I think I would enjoy seeing him get creamed!

        1. re: sivyaleah

          For some reason, I'm reminded of one of my favorite Iron Chef episodes here. It's the Potato battle, where some little old lady (who admittedly had written cookbooks and hosted a cooking show) just runs Chen Kenichi ragged all the way through while barely breaking a sweat, and manages to win the battle in convincing fashion. Normally I'd be rooting for Chen in a battle, but that one was just fun to watch.

        1. re: yankeefan

          They already did a pizza throwdown, i think it was one of the first ones

          also Pumpkin Pie would be good

        2. Have they done a chicken and dumplings throwdown yet? That would be fun. Also tacos. or enchiladas -- I'd love to see him break free of his beloved chipoltles. Latkes would be a kick-- that made me giggle! How about reuben sandwiches with potato salad? I do like watching that show -- I think Bobby Flay shows a real respect for the folks he's going up against.

          1. I enjoy this show too. I'd love to see him do a vegan throwdown. And Dio mentioned sushi -- it appears in the opening as one of the throwdowns, but I've never seen one.

            Hey how about Bourdain and Flay in the vegan throwdown? ;-)

            Latkes would be hilarious!

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            1. re: Richard 16

              I think he did sushi with Morimoto way back in the beginning

              1. re: acorgihouse

                How about fugu? That will add a certain edge.

            2. I'd like to see one where he decides he can't compete head-to-head with a traditional recipe, so "he's going with lots of flavor". Oh wait....

              1. I mentioned this before on another "Throwdown" thread, but I think it's a fun idea.

                Reverse the whole thing, and have someone surprise Flay with a Throwdown.

                It could be set up so Flay gets his "assignment," (say, Pepe's pizza), then Bobby goes through his whole preparation thing, but then a competitor bursts into the Food Network kitchen and challeneges Bobby to a Southwestern Throwndown.

                1. I just read an article in the Food section of our local paper this morning (Columbus Dispatch) that Flay was in town yesterday to shoot a Throwdown with the owners of Sugardaddies Sumptuous Sweeties. It's a local brownie bakery that has exploded in popularity over the past 2 years by getting their product into Oscar gift baskets, on the Ellen show, etc. I guess they both baked blondies...which had me wondering how difficult of a challenge that could be. Of course, they didn't reveal the outcome but said the episode whould be airing this fall.

                  1. Lobster Roll is a great idea!!

                    Other ideas:

                    A Thanksgiving special---maybe turkey and potatoes or something like that
                    Has he done fried chicken?
                    Crab Cakes
                    Various types of pasta- a classic spaghetti and meatballs, or carbonara, fettuccini alfredo etc.
                    Foot-long sub (or some sort of ultimate sandwich type thing)

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                    1. re: Elyssa

                      How about these to take the Bobster out of his comfort zone:

                      Soup dumplings
                      Pot stickers
                      Osso Buco
                      Arroz con pollo
                      Kim chi
                      Peruvian styled cui (guinea pig)

                      1. re: Phaedrus

                        Ooooo all very good ideas. I particularly like the soup dumplings and pot stickers idea, as well as Arroz con Pollo.

                      2. re: Elyssa

                        I am pretty sure they did cupcakes. He competed against a punky chick w/a red velvet cupcake I beleive.

                        1. re: ArikaDawn

                          Ah yes! Now I remember when you said red velvet. I think it was out in LA or something. Mmmmmm red velvet!

                        2. re: Elyssa

                          Did the fried chicken thing, and it was really good (I tried the recipe). Although I believe he lost.

                          I love how real he is on this show, and humble. He doesn't win very often but I think he loves the challenge of something new. Especially something new with the "Flay flavors". Of course that means the judges can figure out his dish most of the time. I liked the breakfast challenge a lot. He should do an omelette throwdown- the ultimate test of a chef!

                        3. Did they do an ice cream one yet? I forget.

                          Chinese dumplings for sure. Ramen. Croissants. Dosas. Cheesecake. Cannoli.

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                          1. re: piccola

                            They did Cheesecake already. He was in NYC..can't recall at the moment who he competed against but I know they did it.

                            Another idea would be ribs. Or brisket.

                            1. re: Elyssa

                              Did BBQ already, too. Ribs I believe.

                              1. re: Elyssa

                                He went up against the guys at Junior's in the cheesecake battle but for the life of me I can't remember who won.

                              2. re: piccola

                                They did ice cream.. the guy from minnesota or wisconsin I think. someone responded to mine earlier that they had already done pizza- did I miss that one?

                                I still think crabcakes would be the best. great idea above about turning the tables on him but I guess that is really the theme of iron chef challenges.

                              3. Augh, none! I find the premise of that show so ego-centric and unfair. He always has 2 or 3 sous chefs to help him, gets the person by surprise, and I just think it's a way for Flay to rest on his laurels. He's a great chef, I totally agree, but he doesn't need to rub peoples' noses in it!

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                                1. re: reubensandperrier

                                  Actually its an ego boost for the people who go up against him, he rarely wins.

                                  1. re: reubensandperrier

                                    I think he is respectful and has fun with it.

                                    I thought the doughnut guy was very pompous and childish but outside of that, people take it is a compliment to be challenged because they are seen as being the best in the given arena.

                                    1. re: reubensandperrier

                                      I do not know what show you are watching,

                                      this show humanizes him, he loses almost every challenge & as others have said, he is respectful & has a good time.. He doesnt rub anyones nose in anything.

                                      1. re: swsidejim

                                        Agreed. In fact, I think this show has helped his image, not hurt it. He gets creamed all the time and he bears it with a grin. Just watched the sticky buns battle. I could tell he knew he was going to get creamed even before the buns were in the oven. It's intimidating when your competition went to Harvard.

                                        1. re: choctastic

                                          "It's intimidating when your competition went to Harvard."
                                          what does that have to do with anything? it's a cooking challenge, not a knowledge bowl.

                                    2. He has gotten creamed - I don't watch them all, but I don't see him win that often. Last episode I saw (last week?) the guys at A Salt and Battery whupped him pretty good on fish n'chips.

                                      I was skeptical about the format, but the more I think about it, the more the show highlights small places that are worth knowing. I know a lot of folks who think Flay is a butthead, but he does a lot to promote good food and he does know his stuff, so I give him a pass.

                                      I'd imagine Flay could knock a decent arroz con pollo out pretty easily. A soup dumpling? Not so much. That would likely be pretty tough for anyone not practiced in that technique.

                                      Heck, why not make in interesting and do fugu ;-)

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                                      1. re: Panini Guy

                                        Ooh, I like the fugu idea, but who in their right mind would volunteer to judge it?

                                        The reason I threw the arroz con pollo is because Hung in Top Chef got his butt handed to him when he tried to do it in front of latins. So I think arroz con pollo in Puerto Rico would be fun, especially since he will get crucified if he tried to put chipotle in it.

                                        1. re: Panini Guy

                                          I think he also got beat pretty bad in the mac and cheese one.

                                          I recently went to the place in Philly where the winner's mac and cheese is (forget her name) and I nearly fell over from how good it was.

                                          Anyone have a listing of what he has done so far? I've seen the mac and cheese, fish and chips, cheesesteak, cheesecake, donuts, and pizza one. I think that's it so far though. I know there have been more.

                                          1. re: Elyssa

                                            I decided to answer my own question. Here's the Throwdowns so far:

                                            Wedding Cake
                                            Jerk Chicken
                                            Breakfast (French Toast and Eggs were made)
                                            Ice Cream
                                            Fried Chicken
                                            BBQ (Ribs, Slaw, Potatoe Salad, Corn, Chicken, Pork, Brisket...you name it. They bad ALOT in this episode)
                                            Chicken Caccitore
                                            Mac and Cheese (which btw is listed as "Man 'n' Cheese" on Foodnetwork.com lol)
                                            Fish and Chips
                                            Cuban Roast Pork
                                            BBQ Spare Ribs
                                            Hot Dogs
                                            Buffalo Wings
                                            Sticky Buns
                                            Hot Browns

                                            The bottom ones might be coming up/not aired yet.

                                            1. re: Elyssa

                                              He already did Chocolate and LOST.
                                              He lost to Fritz Knipschildt. The man who makes my very favorite salt chocolate carmel...Hannah.

                                            2. re: Elyssa

                                              Wikipedia has a list here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throwdow... (note that this list also names the winners of each competition, so if you've not seen these episodes, the outcomes are given).

                                              Without spoilers, the Food Network has a list of the episodes and their "topics" here: http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/episo... - there's links to the individual episodes but don't give away the winners.

                                              1. re: ElsieDee

                                                So he has a winning percentage of ~26%. That's better than I thought, given the diversity of the foods.

                                                1. re: Phaedrus

                                                  Yeah, I'm surprised, too.

                                                  I've only seen two episodes - the hot dog one (because a regular poster on the L.A. Board was one of the judges) and I caught part of the hot brown episode, too. I just don't have time to watch TV these days, but the show seemed to be interesting and better than much of the other dreck that TFN is pumping out.

                                              2. re: Elyssa

                                                Actually he won the mac & cheese battle...I was there for that. His mac & cheese definitely had more flavor. But I realized after I saw the show on tv is that he used bacon in it...no wonder he won!

                                                1. re: lawgirl3278

                                                  That other mac and cheese was AMMMMMMAZING though! I recently went to Philly for work. Was there for no more then 24 hours and I made sure to try that mac and cheese. It was so tangy and different. Very good.

                                                  Bobby's must have been out of this world to beat it.

                                                  1. re: Elyssa

                                                    The mac and cheese is from Delilah's in the Reading Terminal Market and it's awesome!

                                                    Although someone was telling me they made his version at home and it was to die for. I was working right next door the day of the challenge and didn't know!!! So bummed..... I would have loved to taste test.

                                                    1. re: Elyssa

                                                      I think this post is a prime example on the show being an actual great thing for the competitors and not an insult. I am sure that the competition has done absolute WONDERS for the people that get the publicity on the show, and deservedly so.

                                                      I still have a strong dislike for that doughnut guy.

                                                      1. re: yankeefan

                                                        Yeah- he made me so mad. And kind of cheated. Whatever, I won't eat his doughnuts. Would love to try the Texas girls crepes!

                                                  2. re: Elyssa

                                                    I thought he won the mac and cheese, actually.

                                                2. I'll add my vote for a Lobster Roll episode.

                                                  Also -
                                                  - Beef Stew
                                                  - Omelets
                                                  - Enchiladas
                                                  - Rolled tacos
                                                  - Chicken-Fried Steak
                                                  - Shrimp n' Grits
                                                  - Crabcakes
                                                  - Po' Boys
                                                  - Stuffed Cabbage
                                                  - Roasted Turkey
                                                  - French Toast
                                                  - Brownies
                                                  - Collard Greens
                                                  - Split Pea Soup
                                                  - Lasagna
                                                  - Black Beans and Rice
                                                  - Tuna Noodle Casserole
                                                  - Chocolate Chip Cookies

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                                                  1. re: ElsieDee

                                                    You know omelet and roast chicken are good ideas because many people say you can judge a good chef by how they make a simple omelet or a home-roasted chicken.

                                                    1. re: ElsieDee

                                                      Someone above mentioned that he is in the middle of filming brownies right now...although I think he ended up making blondies..but its in the same category.

                                                    2. I'd be curious to see him compete in an Apple Pie throwdown. Such an all American favorite, but sooooo hard to master. Also, my current obsession is Greek food, so any sort of Greek themed throwdown would be fun.

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                                                      1. I don't understand the point of this thread unless you name a specific person/restaurant, because that is the whole point of the show; it's not just a generic throwdown for, e.g., "pizza." He has to go up against someone or something iconic. So, what are your suggestions? For example, for me, the crumbcake at Mueller's Bakery in Bayhead, NJ. I have never quite replicated it, or had anything like it elsewhere (and I have been eating it for 45 years). And I don't see any ego in Bobby Flay; he totally puts himself out there, and frequently loses. And he's amazingly gifted.

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                                                        1. re: janeer

                                                          He doesn't always go against something "iconic." His BBQ Throwdown was against some guy in New Jersey. His hamburger show was against an opera singer. Yeah, the best in their class. :)

                                                          I said pizza as a possible show topic because, well, he could go up against whomever the producers wanted him to go against. Pepe's, Regina's, Patsy's, John's. Or, considering how the show goes sometimes, Joe-Joe Pizza from Des Moines.

                                                          1. re: Bostonbob3

                                                            Both the 'guy from New Jersey' and the 'opera singer' were big-time prize winning cooks. The opera singer having both won and placed second in some company's national search the past two years. Her winner ( the greek burger which was on the show) netted her a $10,000 prize. Don't try to make it sound like he was going up againsst some people with Weber grills in their yards.

                                                          2. re: janeer

                                                            Ya but that gets very difficult and gets into a regional thing.

                                                            I live in DC so chances are my idea of the best pizza (which I've had possibly in Chicago) is proabbly not actually the best pizza but the best I've had.

                                                            Same with a lot of the other items. I mean I could take guesses. I would hope that if the theme was crab cakes he would go somewhere in Maryland, lobster roll my home town of Boston etc. But its really hard to say for each item.

                                                            Even the items I listed I don't know who he should compete against. But I would love to find out who the best apple pie maker or roasted turkey maker is in the country and then have them go at itl.

                                                          3. I'm on board with the sushi and crabcakes (being from Maryland).

                                                            I'd like to see Key lime pie or po' boy sandwiches.

                                                            1. I just want to see more of the people already know who he is so that when he walks in it has more of an impact, rather than reactions like the Izzy's Ice Cream guy (who was basically confused and slightly put-off.)

                                                              My favorite reaction was the firefighter chicken cacciatore guy, who responded to the challenge with "Oh, I hardly think this is the time or the place", followed by Bobby's awkward "You don't want to accept my challenge?", a blatant edit (covering the explanation of "Dude, you aren't actually going to be featured in a Food Network show. This entire thing was an elaborate charade. Ready?"), and then the guy accepting the challenge.

                                                              I'm glad he loses most of these; the majority of the challengees are small/individuals who could be impacted by a loss or humiliation. Flay beating Junior's at cheesecake is fine; they're a long-lived institution. But if he had beaten that poor girl at the Wedding Cake throwdown (she was just establishing her local reputation in Manhattan, and was at Tavern on the Green in front of friends, family, and bigwigs), that would have crushed her.

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                                                              1. re: Hamhock

                                                                Why would getting beat by a very well-known chef crush her or anyone? Doesn't mean she didn't do well! The publicity would have helped her business (and perhaps she could then advertise "as seen on the Food Network"...

                                                              2. Dim Sum - Dim Sum may appear simple, but is kind of complex and will be a stretch for Bobby Flay.

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                                                                1. re: dave_c

                                                                  What about those Asian style noodles - you know, the kind that have to be stretched way out and handled in a certain way? That would be funny to see!! : )

                                                                  1. re: aurora50

                                                                    Ooh yes!!!!! That would be funny.

                                                                    Looking over this list of foodstuff makes me think that if Flay tackled this list, he would really have my respect as a chef. He has already done wonder in my book with this show, no matter how contrived the premise is by putting his butt on the line and potentially making an ass of himself.

                                                                2. chocolate cake
                                                                  veggie dish
                                                                  pumpkin or peanut butter inspired soup
                                                                  sea bass

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                                                                  1. re: Jacey

                                                                    they already did crab cakes. it aired over the summer...bobby won.

                                                                  2. Chipotle aioli

                                                                    Just kidding. I think he puts that on everything. or chimichurri sauce.

                                                                    I would like to see latkes, marinara (or an Italian sauce of some kind), sausage making, or biscuits and gravy.

                                                                    1. arancini

                                                                      that would be a great one

                                                                      1. I just have this vision of Bobby Flay trying to cheat against some Eastern European ancient woman in a stuffed cabbage/pierogi/sauerbraten contest. I actually do like his BBQ and grilling foods but the women assistants he employs (and hardly ever credits) seem specious, like somehow they pull off the Throwdown. He just has the face of a 12 year old little boy and when he loses it is fun to watch!

                                                                        1. Bobby against a Greek Chef...making roast leg of lamb.

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                                                                            1. re: Dio di Romanese

                                                                              Some new ideas:

                                                                              Shepards Pie - I never liked this till I recently tried a Gordan Ramsay recipe which was amazing. Always reminded me of my elementary school lunches which were so sterotypically bad its ridiculous.

                                                                              Pot Pie - Ive had Chicken, Beef, and Lobster version all I love but I have to be in a real "hearty" mood

                                                                              and im still waiting for my long loved Sushi throwdown

                                                                          1. Pasta and Meatballs with sauce
                                                                            Beef Brisket
                                                                            Chicken Pot Pies
                                                                            Any anything Chocolate

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                                                                            1. re: nbermas

                                                                              How about field dressing a deer and making deer sausages.

                                                                              1. re: Phaedrus

                                                                                They already did a meatball and crabcake battle

                                                                                1. re: Dio di Romanese

                                                                                  When Bobby did the cheesecake throw down at Juniors and beat Alan Rosen...you should have seen Alan Rosen's face drop to the floor in disbelief. I felt bad for the guy. Junior's is my favorite, however - Bobby prepared an apple caramel topped chhesecake (something like that) and Alan made a devil's food cheesecake which is where I think he went wrong. Alan should have gone with his tried and true strawberry pie and not an overwelming flavor like chocolate cheesecake.

                                                                            2. TAMALES
                                                                              ANGEL FOOD CAKE

                                                                              1. Are they still producing Throwdowns? I thought the show ended last summer and only reruns remain...

                                                                                1. I'd like to see him do a rugelach throwdown with my brother, Lurker W.

                                                                                  Unless he has our family recipe, there is zero chance he could win, because there is a secret ingredient.

                                                                                  If you love rugelach, please encourage Lurker W to follow his dream and open a rugelach truck in NYC.

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                                                                                  1. re: Bob W

                                                                                    So Bob, how come you never shared the secret? No fair to tempt and not deliver.

                                                                                  2. Did he ever do deep-dish pizza? Or Detroit-style pizza (baked in square pans with plenty of oil, giving the crust a fried effect)?

                                                                                    I know the Flay shows emphasize popular favorites and regional specialties. But it might be interesting to see him square off with, say, the Soup-Nazi types that one finds here and there (I mean individuals who make a few rockin' soups, not the attitude--Ann Arbor, MI, has one). I guess the criteria could get vague, though.

                                                                                    I'd like to see him tackle Chinese, too. Congee? Peking Duck? Xiaolongbao (soup dumplings)? He doesn't do much Asian, except for sushi and pad thai, if I recall rightly.

                                                                                    Banh mi?

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                                                                                    1. re: Bada Bing

                                                                                      I agree on the Asian thing. He just doesn't work with those flavors much. Someone above mentioned hand pulled noodles, I'd love to see Bobby throw down at one of my favorite local joints:

                                                                                    2. Bobby Flay will be in NJ tomorrow throwing down with an area chef. Voodoo shrimp is the challenge.


                                                                                        1. Has he done throwdown deep dish Chicago pizza yet? Because I would totally watch that.

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                                                                                            1. re: Bob W

                                                                                              brocolli rabe and pizza. why. why?????