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What do you think are some regularly overrated places in LA? Of course Pinkberry comes to mind, but maybe also Pink's?

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  1. Lotería Grill, Pete's Café, El Coyote, Royale, Gladstone's, Pho 79, Fred 62, The Gumbo Pot, Doughboys - all of them have their supporters (some of them quite devoted), all of them are restaurants whose alleged merits are completely lost on me.

    And I absolutely hate the Sugar Bean and Tea Leaf. Coffee with cheap Nestlé Quik in it. It's diabetes in a cup, and it's disgusting.

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    1. re: Woolsey

      Pho 79? You take that back! Take it back!

      Not gonna argue with the rest, though. I lived on the east coast for a while, where all the mexican restaurants were like El Coyote. It was pretty sad.

      1. re: wafflesnsegways

        Pho 79 is awful. I will never take it back. Never! It's awful from the bland broth to the mildew smell coming off the table tops. Pho 87 up Broadway has it beat hands down.

        1. re: wafflesnsegways

          I was in Chinatown yesterday and came across the old Pho 79. I will take it back: They've changed their name, so I can now say that Pho 97 is awful.

      2. california pizza kitchen.
        their crust has the flavor and consistency of white bread, even their 'honey wheat' crust is awful.
        also, alejos always gets praised on this board. covering up the worst quality ingredients with a lot of chopped raw garlic in oil doesn't cut it in my mind.

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        1. Ultimately, because of the sheer volume of people who post to the LA Area boards combined with the fact that over 4 million people live in the city of Los Angeles alone, I would expect *almost*any* restaurant to fall into this category.

          Our tastes are different enough and our voices vocal enough that it just ends up that way.

          Are you looking for places that aren't worth the crowd, the wait or the reservation time?
          My answers would be Toast or Pinkberry. Some say Pink's, but I'm okay with it.

          Are you looking for places whose culinary result is unequal to their culinary reputation?
          Ford's Filling Station and Table 8 immediately come to mind.

          Are you looking for places that are overpriced and/or serving inferior product but seem to be doing pretty well for themselves as a business anyway?
          I'd say any of the food stands at 3rd Street Farmer's Market.

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          1. re: SauceSupreme

            I'm okay with Pink's, too. I think the food at Pink's is just so-so, but then the food to me has never really been the point at there. Everyone always complains about the long line, but that's really the reason to go, to stand in the long line and gawk at everyone else in the long line (especially at the oddballs in line at 3:00 A.M. - and yes, I can include myself amongst the Pink's 3:00 A.M. oddballs). I personally think the food at Skooby's on Hollywood is better, but the scene at Pink's is a real Los Angeles treasure, which is why I'd never consider it overrated.

            1. re: Woolsey

              I agree about Pink's. I once saw David Lynch eating there. A real people-watching highlight!

              1. re: Woolsey

                I stumbled into Skooby's after their garlic fries caught my attention. And the fact that they have GUINNESS in their chili! Great dogs, great fries, love that aoili as well.

            2. Geihsa House, Yamashiro
              Pinkberry, Pinks, CPK, California Chicken Cafe,
              Pizzaria Mozza, Sprinkles, Patina Group anything,
              Canter's Deli, The Standard, House of Pies
              Pizzaria Mozza, Nozawa, katsu ya, Fratelli's,
              Brent's, Anarkali,Starbuck's, Juliano's Raw,
              The Stinking Rose, Jerry's Famous Deli,
              Cut, Beard Papa,

              umm, lemme think

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              1. re: Diana

                You mentioned Mozza twice. On purpose? : )

                1. re: monkuboy

                  no..just me being interrupted in the iddle and then not editing before I hit "post" sorry.

                2. re: Diana

                  Yamashiro is for the Ambiance and View ( which do rock) I dunno I never expect ther food to be spectacular so i guess i feel like i'm getting what i pay for ( and I'm paying for ambiance and the view)

                  1. re: Mando

                    their food is less than average, IMO.

                    1. re: lotta_cox

                      That's a coincidence - I just posted on Yamashiro: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/425600

                      And not only is the food WAY less than average, the ambience is horrible too.

                    2. re: Mando

                      Both my parents and I have been their at separate time and we both had really bad service and food. I really think it's a waste of money to go there. I would probably just go there for a before dinner cocktail and save my money to eat a place that is more worthy. It does have a nice ambiance but there are plenty of places with a nice ambiance plus quality of food.

                    3. re: Diana

                      HOLLY COW, PRETTY MUCH MY SAME LIST...I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO GOT NOTHING OUTTA MOZZA...THE SERVICE WAS A JOKE, THE BAR TENDER WAS SO RUDE, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO...NOT JUST RUDE TO ME, BUT TO THE OTHERS TRYING TO HELP HIM BEHIND THE BAR...KEPT GETTING OTHER PEOPLE'S FOOD AND THE TOPPING ON MY PIZZA HAD NO FLAVOR...WHEN I READ "HOT SOPRASATA" I GOT ALL GIGGLY AND EXCITED...WHEN I TASTED MY FIRST SLICE...NOTHING!
                      SPRINKLES...WHATEVER....BAD FROSTING VS CAKEYNESS RATIO (CUTE TO LOOK AT THOUGH)...DRY, HEAVY...YUK.
                      POOR YAMASHIRO...SUCH A PRETTY PLACE...I'D RATHER GO TO TOMMY'S (YES, THE BURGER PLACE) AND THEN HEAD UP FOR A DRINK AND DESSERT JUST FOR THE "MAKE-OUT-WORTY-VIEW" .
                      PATINA...AGAIN, WHATEVER, THANK GOODNESS MY CLIENTS PICK UP THE BILL WHEN I'M THERE BEFORE A SHOW...UGG...RATHER GO TO IZAYOI BEFORE GOING TO CONCERT HALL.
                      KATSU-YA...IF YOU LIKE TO HANG OUT AND GET HIT ON BY "MR. YOGA-PREDITOR-GUY" AND A BUNCH OF OTHER VALLEY TOOLS WHO TALK ABOUT THEIR PILATES AND YOGA TRAINERS...EEK.
                      GOTTA STOP...GOTTA GO EAT.

                      1. re: Diana

                        I was very frustrated with Beard Papa. Very rude, brisk service, no real selection, and the cream puffs came straight out of the fridge - yuck! They weren't even fresh, so I didn't bother eating one.

                        1. re: monkuboy

                          Did you know that Jonathan Gold when asked where he would like his last meal to be he replied, after some careful thought ... Pie N Burger.

                          FWIW.

                          1. re: monkuboy

                            Oooh, I agree! And the much hyped apple pie is just icky. The banana cream, however, is to die for.

                            1. re: Diana

                              Would have to disagree with Dan Tana's. The chicken parm is awesome old school Italian... and yes, I've had plenty of it in Long Island to know. Plus, the crowd watching is the best appetizer on the menu.

                              1. re: grrlgamer

                                What did I ever say about Dan Tana's?

                                1. re: Diana

                                  Dan Tana's food is pretty ordinary. Nothing special. Plus, it's way too crowded. It's like they found the smallest place to pack the most tables and chairs in.

                            2. re: monkuboy

                              I was totally going to say that. Let me add to that list - Dan Tana's, Musso and Franks and any and all "old school" LA places - LA is new not old - you want old school? Go to New York - thats old school.

                              1. re: blackbookali

                                Buddy, buddy, buddy...Musso and Franks is a good spot.

                                We should still have some connection to the history of this town, no?

                                1. re: therealbigtasty

                                  What he said. Besides, most of the new places that open can be pretty craptacular, which is why they eventually end up closing, and we get more new places. There's often a reason the old places have been able to hang around.

                                  1. re: therealbigtasty

                                    Old is OK providing they keep up their standards. I've had some pretty disgusting stuff at Musso & Franks, sufficient to make me direct my steps to Miceli's or Famima! instead. Do not ever order their fried onion rings -- truly dégoulasse!

                                    1. re: therealbigtasty

                                      Classics still do manage to pump out good food in "old" spaces--as long as the quality and management don't age worse than the restaurant itself.

                                      1. re: umami

                                        The original pantry needs to close down for a day so they can get that annoying grease smell out of the dining hall. Also, they need to mop.

                                        1. re: caligreatest

                                          I second, third, and fourth The Original Pantry. Some coworkers and I went there a couple of weeks back for lunch and it was awful. We were expecting diner-quality food, but it was atrocious. I've had significantly better meals at Denny's or IHOP. Blah!

                                      2. re: blackbookali

                                        being that musso and frank's is 80+ years old and the oldest restaurant in NY, Barbetta, is exactly 100 years old, I would definitely classify musso and frank's as old school and i believe that taylor's could also be classified as old school although it is a paltry 56 years old. LA is home to a couple of truly old school places. and i find neither taylor's nor musso's to be overrated. both are a certain thing, but i love them both dearly for what they are.

                                        1. re: blackbookali

                                          I've got to side with blackbookali on Musso and Frank's. I don't know, maybe I'm a rube, but the hype/price to food quality ratio I experienced there had to have been the most staggering I've ever seen.

                                        2. re: monkuboy

                                          Ditto and Ditto to Apple Pan and Pie & Burger!

                                          1. re: monkuboy

                                            Hmm. This is my first post and I do not want to offend but I'm such a lover of both places. The steak burger at the Apple Pan would be my last meal as well and I would follow it up with pie from Pie N' Burger. Of course I do hate the hickory burger at the apple pan, could that be what you had??

                                            I've been eating at the Apple Pan since I was like 5 and it is so consistent, the dudes justt keep get older.

                                            1. re: monkuboy

                                              I don't know - Pie n' Burger seems just about perfect to me.