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mialebven Jul 23, 2007 06:51 PM

I saw the thread Overrated Restaurants in Miami, and I was thinking to myself... what about the underrated ones? It seems to me that the chowhounders here speak only of new restaurants or well known restaurants. And the hole-in-the-walls that were mentioned so far aren't really hole-in-the-walls - they've been mentioned at least once in the past 5 years in some review. What about unknown hole-in-the-walls? Or the nice restaurants that almost never get mentioned?

I'll give you two examples: Madrono's in West Miami is supposed to be known as the best Nicaraguan restaurant. Hereford Grill, nobody mentions it.

And sometimes I have to look at other blogs, and far-off sources to find out other gems like La Guardia near the Design District for produce or wait for the Miami New Times to mention some weird things like a produce stand in Little Haiti for having the best produce. And in another blog, I read that the baleadas are worth trying at Honduras Maya. But do we ever mention these things? Do we ever venture out to the unknown and seemingly underground restaurant scene in Miami?

So are we just snobs for ignoring the rest of Miami? What about upper-casual restaurants that serves great food? They may not be fine dining and they may not provide unique or entertaining or unusual atmosphere that makes one love the scene. Do we just want to impress others, especially the tourists and the readers who are planning their trips here, with our knowledge of what is already known? We just point to places they "should" already know about - simply because we already know about them by living here and reading the press. It should all just be about the food, or even a dish. Come on guys... show the real foodie Miami!

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    Bigstu99 Jul 9, 2011 05:28 AM

    Noor's Bakery great selection or Zaatar breads all freash out of the oven and made to order $1.25 to $2.50

    La Piazza While overpriced for what it is They still have great veal chops and the best Gnocchi anyone has ever had including grandma's.

    Argentango... Still the best skirt steaks around

    El Tamarindo The best Coal Fired Pizza in town must have the Broccoli Rabe and sausage... Also must try their flan! The big one on State Road 84 doesn't have an oven go to the one in Hallandale on Atlantic!

    Agree on Dragon city too ...ask for chinese menu

    Nacho Bizness The Korean pulled BBQ pork taco is to die for! food truck set up weekdays for lunch 1915 SW 1st Ave Fort Lauderdale

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      Leslie Nova Oct 25, 2010 11:27 AM

      Dragon City - Chinese food (opens extremely late and cheap)
      Panya - Best Thai food

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      Dragon City
      6708 Stirling Rd, Hollywood, FL 33024

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        gourmrtcook Oct 12, 2010 02:16 PM

        Don't forget Miami Juice in Sunny Isles. Their all natural and organic menu is fabulous and the selection of juices is incredible. MJ's rice and the fresh fruit bowl are off the chain. Very good salmon too. Great place to people watch. They're not a chain and they've been around for over 10 years.

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          taluga Aug 12, 2009 01:02 PM

          Le P'titParis on Commodore Plaza and Main Highway is underrated for sure. Food is always good, sometimes exceptional, Sophisticated look. If you haven't been there recently they have a new chef who knows his stuff although I miss some of the old sandwiches. Knocks the severely overrated Bouchon du Grove out of the box. Prettier, cleaner and the servers don't work at having the French waiter attitude.

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            jessierandall Aug 15, 2010 09:58 AM

            Love, love, love Magnum. The fried chicken, the lamb chops and the bread basket with the beignets are all superb. It's a trip to go and hear the piano playing. It's an experience.

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            sunkissed64 Aug 9, 2009 04:36 PM

            Miami has turned into more of a cosmopolitan city and with that the incessant need to 'keep up with the Joneses' as far as eating at the latest froo froo restaurant. Problem is that by the time you are there eating it's too late. You're paying for bragging rights basically, being able to say you at at so and so.. often at the mercy of waiting staff that think they own the place and are doing you a favor by even acknowledging your presence. The overpriced menu and subsequent hefty, unmerited bill just adds insult to injury. Trendy smendy. I'd much rather eat at a less flashy mom and pop establishment where its the food and service that matters. I'll give the topic of Underated in Miami some thought and get back to you..

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              crowmuncher Jul 22, 2011 07:47 AM

              I hate to agree with sunkissed, especially after almost 2 years later, but after thinking long and hard I cannot think of 1 underated eating establishment in this area. Yes, there are the mom and pops, the hole-in-the-wall restaurants, etc. that can't be under/over-rated since they don't get the publicity. I am not referring to these. But in regard to big names, I just can't think of one. As someone who grew up in SOFLA and currently live here as an adult, you got me there. That being said, there are I think many good big-name restaurants, but underrated? So much of our area restaurants are seriously hyped, many times setting the eater up for disappointment, unfortunately. If I change my mind I'll let you know, but please don't wait.

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              purpledude Aug 5, 2009 04:00 PM

              Salmon & Salmon, Peruvian, NW 7th St in Miami. Tiny, crowded, and get ready to be ignored, but great ceviche etc.

              Fox's, South Miami. Miami Liquor license #2 if I'm not mistaken- a little history & character that Miami is sorely lacking. Dark & cramped but good comfort food, try the fried snapper, french onion soup, & thumb (beef filet) bits. Who else has a "dieter's plate" that consists of a hamburger patty, sliced tomato, and cottage cheese? And paneling!

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                JFarah Aug 7, 2009 07:00 AM

                Fox's had the best slider's at one point... Haven't been there in years though. After a certain hour you used to be able to get them for $1. Is that deal still around? You used to also get 2 for 1 drinks after 11:00 pm on Saturday nights. Been dying to take my husband there for quite some time and it always slips my mind.

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                  bigpurpleguy Aug 8, 2009 08:59 PM

                  My dad took me there for happy hour sliders about 20 years ago, I remember going back about 10 years ago and they still had them, but I don't know about now.

                  Went back last night to put $ where mouth was, the menu is the same, but items looked and tasted different when they came out. Thumbits were good, but not as good, croutons were inferior, French onion was ok, not great, but wifey say dieter's plate was same as ever, that's going back 15 years.

                  Waiter was drunk and distracted, choco mousse was same as ever as well, martini was poorly made.

                  Same old Fox's, just not quite as good.

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                JFarah Jul 15, 2009 07:59 AM

                El Rinconcito in Hialeah (sw 56 street) - Excellent Mofongo with chicharrones
                La Camaronera - Fried Shrimp sandwich on cuban bread - YUM!!

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                  FoodOfMiami Apr 1, 2009 02:43 PM

                  My favorite underrated local Mexican Restaurant so far in Miami is Cheen-huaye. Favorite Dish - a classic Yucatecan dish, tastes just like a classic baked and simmering pork dish that a grandmother would cook… Conchinita Pibil - tender pork marinated in recado rojo (almost like a Mexican paprika thin sauce), served over plantain leaves and covered with shredded marinated red onions.... Delish!!

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                  Cheen Huaye
                  15400 Biscayne Blvd, Aventura, FL 33160

                   
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                    kushbaby Sep 13, 2007 09:52 AM

                    It is so hard to find a really good sushi restaurant, especially when most of the restaurants here mix it up with either THAI or CHINESE. Stay clear of these places as they are definitely not authentic. The best sushi all around in Miami, local Japanese go here and celebrities are known to pass by as well. MATSURI is a 100% Authentic Japanese restaurant specializing in fresh SASHIMI and SUSHI. They even have a Japanese menu for the truly authentic crowd. If you rather have a cheap and quick meal, head down to the Japanese Market on 79th street, its a Japanese Market but they have a little sushi counter. 100% authentic and Japanese owned. Alot of people talk about Yakko san's. Couple years ago it was soo much better when the chefs were Japanese. I went there recently and the hole place changed alot. Its still good if you want to have some DIFFERENT japanese food but if you truly love sushi and authentic Japanese, head to the restaurants I mentioned.

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                      Frodnesor Sep 13, 2007 12:34 PM

                      I've been going to Yakko San for a couple years and it's always been the same chefs, and while the menu was updated a bit about half a year ago I've not noticed much change at all in the quality of the food (though they did drop a few of my favorite items). Just in case it was not clear from the prior post, Yakko San does sashimi items but does not do nigiri or maki (sushi on rice or sushi rolls).
                      The place on 79th Street mentioned in the post above is called Sushi Deli.
                      I have heard Matsuri is temporarily closed for remodeling.

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                        taiga Sep 13, 2007 12:49 PM

                        One footnote! Matsuri doesn't always treat its non-Japanese customers as well as its Japanese! You are liable to get miso shiro served first with a spoon if your not careful. One suggestion: never go with anyone who sits at the counter and asks for a bagel roll unless your ready for a laugh!

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                          fonger Sep 13, 2007 04:09 PM

                          yakko san changed chefs and part of the group went over to oishi. the food is still pretty good though. I'm surprised no one has ever mentioned Peppers for chinese food - they do a traditional chinese hot pot and it's an all you can eat deal. you really should try it.

                          other underrated spots that i have found are mahogany grille over in carol city area, rustic inn for crab, and for sheer quantity of food, casola's when you're coming back from a night out.

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                            Frodnesor Sep 13, 2007 10:01 PM

                            Oishi I've always found slightly disappointing for traditional sushi - though their imitations of Nobu dishes are quite good and only about 2/3 as pricey.
                            Where is Peppers?

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                        mialebven Aug 13, 2007 11:13 PM

                        I went to another place that I think was underrated - since I could only find one review online for it - Portobello restaurant in Coral Way (near 28th Avenue). Admittingly, I've only had little from the restaurant to eat, but from the acclaims of the friends I had around me, it was good, and from what little I had, it was good. On top of that, it's affordable even for dinner, and they serve good size portions of Italian food. The Venezuelan family that owns the establishment has been in business for 8 years.

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                        Portobello Restaurant
                        2841 SW 22nd Ave, Miami, FL 33133

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                          mialebven Sep 9, 2007 04:23 PM

                          I'm happy to also report that netmover's recommendation of La Esquina de Lechon in Doral is a good go-to spot if you're in the area for reliable food. It reminds me in some ways of Havana Harry's (at least the decor), and the food was good although I did not have much.

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                            I Love Food Sep 10, 2007 03:56 PM

                            Romeo's Cafe is really good... It's on Coral Way.. I haven't been in a while but it is definitely one of those romantic, white tablecloth, delicious restaurants you always forget about... i did until just now!

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                              LauraFL Sep 11, 2007 07:03 AM

                              I was going to post the same thing about Romeo! No one ever mentions it, but it's one of our favorite places for 'date night'. He also remembers us, and what we've eaten there, even though we are not frequent diners.

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                                lorilaw Sep 13, 2007 08:22 AM

                                I agree Cafe Romeos is yummy. I also love the bread and big salads at Beverly Hills Cafe. Oh and Hungry Bear Subs....out of this world...better than Carl's in NYC.

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                                tpigeon Sep 13, 2007 09:43 AM

                                It is really hard to get a reservation at Romeos so I don't recommend it much for people who don't give enough time frame. But that being said, I forget about it too sometimes. I think this place is probably better than osteria (how's that for hedging :) ).

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                            diablita FL Jul 29, 2007 09:14 AM

                            tequenos and pan con queso at Panna Express, the big Exxon station in Westonzuela
                            Lily's Italian restaurant in Boca Raton
                            Asaka for sushi and apps in the Promenade shops in Aventura (we think their fish is fresher than Kampai/Fuji Hana)
                            Middle Eastern Delights - delicious Lebanese food in a small storefront in Delray Beach on US-1, just south of Linton. You feel like you're walking into your Lebanese Auntie's kitchen and she'll have you sit down and feed you a huge, delicious meal. The mujadarrah is unbelievable, as are the usual suspects like hummus, babaganoush, etc
                            Sunrise Pita for delicious felafel and Israeli pickles in Sunrise on University (kosher, so not open on Shabbat)
                            Bissaleh for mouth watering Yemenite savory pastries (bissalehs and burekas) and their lemonade with mint.

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                              mialebven Jul 29, 2007 08:48 AM

                              Three more to add to the list...

                              Lazeez Asian Cuisine - Pakistani

                              Layali Miami - Lebanese / Middle Eastern

                              Rinconcito Paisa - Colombian

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                              Rinconcito Paisa
                              9700 SW 24th St Ste E, Miami, FL 33165

                              Layali Miami
                              11402 NW 41st St Ste 115, Doral, FL 33178

                              Lazeez Asian Cuisine
                              13919 SW 66th St, Miami, FL 33183

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                                chocolada Jul 29, 2007 09:00 AM

                                I've never had Pakistani food. I would love to hear more about Lazeez Asian. How does it differ from traditional Indian cuisine? All I know of Pakistani cuisine is from an episode of Seinfeld. (Sad, I know).

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                                  jaigh Jul 12, 2009 12:23 AM

                                  It's actually really similar to Indian, most can't tell the difference. Here's their website : http://lazeez.webs.com/

                              2. netmover Jul 26, 2007 08:23 PM

                                I got to say I am miffed by all this jibberin and jabberin about price/value/economical/bargain etc on this post. Since when does that equate with "underrated". I fail to see the connection...underrated means not appreciated or not highly rated, no? That could fall into any price category IMHO.

                                That being said, I guess I should offer a few.

                                Once highly revered, now underrated:

                                News Cafe
                                Normans...so underrated it closed!
                                La Locanda (Meatsauce)
                                Shuckers (special grilled wings and a $1,000,000 view)

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                                  Miamian Jul 27, 2007 03:24 PM

                                  La Locanda is fantastic, and I would live there if they let me, but News Cafe? Seriously? I always figured the hype was about the location more than anything else.

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                                    tpigeon Jul 27, 2007 11:42 PM

                                    I liked La Locanda before they doubled their prices.

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                                      JFarah Aug 7, 2009 06:57 AM

                                      I really liked La Locanda too... but the last time I went it was so hot inside that I have never returned. It killed the experience for me.

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                                      netmover Jul 28, 2007 09:35 AM

                                      News Cafe has some great dishes. Eggs Smoked Salmon (Benedict style) is a phenomenal breakfast/brunch dish. Fruit and Yogurt is another nice b-fast dish as is their Bagel and Nova. Their salads are very well done. The middle eastern is solid. Even the pasta that IS NOT aldente is fresh, well, the one with fresh tomatoes, garlic and basil...the aglio olio is decent too. And where else can you have a Chocolate Foundue at midnight featuring a freak show and a seabreeze?

                                      La Locanda doubled their prices? Well then, I liked it a lot better back then too! Thanks for the update TP. Have you been back to the Italian joint on Alton & 17th next to Masters?

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                                        tpigeon Jul 29, 2007 11:20 AM

                                        Yes it was not very good. Seemed like they microwaved everything. Unfortunate.

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                                    mialebven Jul 25, 2007 03:51 PM

                                    My list of underrated place isn't that long as I'm consistently looking for them and I've only moved to Miami last year. But here it is:

                                    Choice Cafe - Korean

                                    Royal Thai - Thai

                                    Nuevo Siglo - Cuban

                                    Garden of Eatin - Vegetarian/Vegan

                                    Off the Grille - Latin/American fusion - simple fare (?)
                                    (word of this - the quality of everything here isn't top notch, but their plantain chips might be better than even Havana Harry's and steak for a low price - unless if they raised it recently - is a bargain. Quick, bistro style food that will more than fill you up is hard to come by in Miami).

                                    Magnum Lounge - American (expensive), interesting old "Cheers" v. romantic ambience. Price can be made to think it goes to the ambience and live piano acts to make your bill feel lighter (mentally speaking).

                                    Tinta y Cafe - Cuban coffeeshop a la comfort American style (indoor seating/lounging, cold coffee drinks, etc).

                                    Mojitos - Cuban. I actually like this one, but I know it can be a contentious issue. But for Versailles prices, good food with nicer, trendier plating, I think this one is a good standby to have.

                                    Honduras Maya - Honduran - for cheap fare, you have to try their baleadas - the cheese ones were salty since Latin American cheeses tend to be salty, but try the other stuffings. They also have a full menu.

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                                    Choice Cafe of Miami
                                    2750 NW 3rd Ave Ste 26, Miami, FL 33127

                                    Royal Thai Restaurant
                                    10648 Fontainebleau Blvd, Miami, FL 33172

                                    Nuevo Siglo
                                    1305 SW 8th St, Miami, FL 33135

                                    Garden of Eatin
                                    136 NW 62nd St, Miami, FL 33150

                                    Off the Grill Cafe Bistro
                                    12578 SW 88th St, Miami, FL 33186

                                    Magnum Lounge
                                    709 NE 79th St, Miami, FL 33138

                                    Tinta Y Cafe
                                    276 SW 8th St, Miami, FL 33130

                                    Mojitos Cuban Cuisine
                                    11401 NW 12th St Ste 502, Miami, FL 33172

                                    Honduras Maya Restaurant
                                    69 NW 27th Ave, Miami, FL 33125

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                                      anikahangel Jul 25, 2007 04:14 PM

                                      Personally, I have always loved The Big Pink on Miami Beach. I am not sure if it's over or underrated, but wow.. They had some great wraps.. I haven't been there in a year or two, but I miss it terribly. There is nothing here in Daytona that comes close.

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                                        Frodnesor Jul 25, 2007 04:52 PM

                                        Nice call on Magnum, haven't been in a while. The owner used to have a wonderful place on Lincoln Road called Jeffrey's which he closed a few years ago and moved to presumably much lower rent spot on 79th St.

                                        By the way, it hardly qualifies as bargain eats, but Marky's across the street has a great selection of caviars and lots of other luxe items, as well as an interesting Russian market.

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                                          Lost Highway Jul 26, 2007 12:30 AM

                                          good call on royal thai... i ate there for lunch today. had the chicken curry (4-star spicy!!!)

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                                            miachef Jul 26, 2007 06:08 AM

                                            Good call on Tinta y Cafe. I had lunch there this week and ordered their special of oxtail with rice and plantains ($9.75). The oxtail was great, tasted homemade. They actually don't make it there, but order it from a Peruvian guy. In any event, it was good. I also like their decor and their sandwich selection. On Saturdays, they have parrilla.

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                                            miaedu Jul 25, 2007 12:43 PM

                                            Jimmie's Cafe at Dania Beach
                                            148 North Federal Highway
                                            Dania Beach, Fl 33004
                                            Ph: 954.921.0688
                                            http://www.jimmieschocolates.com/

                                            has the best hot chocolate i've had in a long time. traditional desserts like chocolate cake.

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                                              mialebven Jul 25, 2007 03:25 PM

                                              Speaking of chocolates, how does it compare with Romanicos? I think Romanicos Chocolates on Coral Way deserves a mention. I'm not sure if it's underrated but it is not often mentioned. It is widely known though, but they serve chocolates various chocolate drinks. They're now serving cold chocolate drinks with a mix of flavorings like coconut, passion fruit or raspberry, which I think is a plus on the summer months. It has consistently been in the top 10 best listings and the prices are very economical.

                                              But now that Jimmie's was mentioned, I better check it out!

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                                              Romanicos-The Chocolate Shop
                                              1801 Coral Way, Miami, FL 33145

                                            2. JonasBrand Jul 25, 2007 12:30 PM

                                              Chalan - Peruvian

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                                              Chalan On the Beach
                                              1580 Washington Ave, Miami Beach, FL 33139

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                                                jkatz23 Jul 25, 2007 11:57 AM

                                                I will add a couple more:
                                                - Cafe Pastis: Small French bistro close to sunset place. It has been a while that I have been there (too far for me), but I remember the food to be very good and prices more than fair.

                                                - European Corner. Is a venezuelan bakery also close to sunset place. They even sell Hayacas (like a venezuelan tamale, filled with chicken/pork/beef with almonds, olives, etc) during Xmas time!

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                                                Cafe Pastis
                                                7310 SW 57th Ave, South Miami, FL 33143

                                                European Corner
                                                5889 SW 73rd St, Miami, FL

                                                1. Lost Highway Jul 25, 2007 12:00 AM

                                                  La Palme D'Or (in the Biltmore Hotel)

                                                  Why does nobody ever mention this place? It has one of the best chef/sommelier teams in ALL of south florida. I guess the atmosphere is a bit stuffy, but the food and the wine program are more than enough to make up for it. And anyway, its not like the place is a stick in the eye. Its just not nobu (whatever that means).

                                                  Am I the only one who really, really likes this restaurant? Of all the great restaurants in Miami, this is one of the top 3. But it never gets mentioned on this forum. Anybody got any thoughts on it?

                                                  ps: Madrono's is incredible. I didn't know it was highly rated, though. The place is clean, fresh, and cheap. If you go for lunch, you can get some incredible deals. Get the carne asada and then an app of fried cheese. The owner is always in there watching over the cash register. The weirdest part about that place is where its located. You would never guess such a nice place was in such a run down looking strip mall (unless you grew up in miami).

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                                                    johnloomis Jul 25, 2007 10:07 AM

                                                    Surprised to see a d'Or rec... I've heard really, REALLY bad things.

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                                                    jkatz23 Jul 24, 2007 08:02 PM

                                                    Barrio Latino - Cuban/Argentinia: great family style restaurant, affordable enough to eat every day, great for take home when you don't want to cook. Favorite dishes: beef empanadas, beef entrana, ropa vieja, black beans, mariquitas....

                                                    Piola - A new location opened in Hallandale beach Blvd.

                                                    Kampai - good traditional sushi place. Friendly staff, love their spicy crunchy tuna roll, their Kanisu. Some Thai dishes are also very good. Fish is always fresh.

                                                    Tiramisu on Lincoln Rd. Best price/value on Lincoln Rd. Pastas are very tasty, specials are usually very good and reasonably priced.

                                                    Cafe Ragazzi - Charming family owned (Argentinean Family) Italian restaurant. The wait is always long but you will always be offered a wine glass while you wait.

                                                    - Do not remember the name but a good place for a sandwich in the Aventura area is a little cafe at the Lobby of the washington Mutual building next to the Aventura mall (Stefanno's?)

                                                    - For healthy lunches try the place next to juice and java at the promenade shops in Aventura (Do not recall the name). Great salads and juices.

                                                    - Il Migliori: Italian. Miami Gardens in Aventura. Try their chicken liver, chicken al "matone", their burrata, pasta w/mushrooms, tomato soup.

                                                    - Etzel Itzik for israeli food on 18757 W. Dixie Hwy. Aventura

                                                    - Manhattan Bakery for arepas, empanadas and cachapas.

                                                    - Locatel pharmacy in Hallandale Beach Blvd. to get Tequenos, fresh venezuelan quesos (chesses such as queso Guayanes, nata and telita), pan de bono and tres leches (yes, it is a pharmacy, but they sell all these goods as well). Also, if you want to cook with the BEST dark chocolate ever you can buy it there, is called "Chocolate del Rey Gran Saman" 70%.

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                                                    Cafe Ragazzi Restaurant
                                                    9500 Harding Ave, Surfside, FL 33154

                                                    Barrio Latino Restaurant
                                                    3585 North East 207 Street, Miami, FL 33180

                                                    Kampai Japanese Restaurant
                                                    3575 NE 207th St, Miami, FL 33180

                                                    Tiramisu Italian
                                                    721 Lincoln Rd, Miami Beach, FL 33139

                                                    Locatel Health & Wellness
                                                    1715 E Hallandale Beach Blvd, Hallandale, FL 33009

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                                                    1. re: jkatz23
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                                                      tpigeon Jul 24, 2007 08:33 PM

                                                      To have Tiramisu on an underrated list is ridiculous. It is not the best price/value on lincoln road either.

                                                      The following are better price/values on lincoln road
                                                      Le Bon
                                                      Spris
                                                      Fanucci
                                                      Alta Mar
                                                      Rosinella
                                                      Pashas
                                                      Argentinian bakery between altamar and fanucci
                                                      Books & Books
                                                      Paninoteca
                                                      Pizza Rustica
                                                      Hofbrau

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                                                        miachef Jul 25, 2007 05:03 AM

                                                        I think the Argentinean bakery you speak of is Panizza. Great empanadas there!

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                                                          lax2mia Jul 25, 2007 06:11 AM

                                                          Cafe at Books and Books is fairly underrated. Never had a bad experience.

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                                                            jkatz23 Jul 25, 2007 10:11 AM

                                                            For me Titamisu cannot go on the same list as Spris, Pashas, Paninoteca or Pizza Rustica, I go to Tiramisu to spend a nice time with friends and have a complete dinner experience. I would go to Pizza rustica, pasha or paninoteca for a quick meal. I went to Le Bon once, not my type pf place (not my husband's prefer food) and VERY expensive compared to Tiramisu..., I can get 2 appetizers, 2 entrees and a dessert at tiramisu for like $70 and at le bon you pay at least $90 if not more.

                                                            Have not been to Fanucci or Rosinella, I can give them both a try!

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                                                              lax2mia Jul 25, 2007 10:16 AM

                                                              You can't really compare Tiramisu and Le Bon. Tiramisu loads you up on cheap pasta, thus the lower bill. Le Bon's food is entirely different and I think a little more upscale than Tiramisu. But they're entirely different cuisines so to compare them on price is unfair.

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                                                                jkatz23 Jul 25, 2007 10:32 AM

                                                                I agree that you cannot compare them on price, but I would not classify Le Bon as underrated.....their fish entrees are all price in the high 20 and their meets in the high 30...Appetizer escargot $16 is expensive, ok, they have truffle oil and come from Belgium, but it is expensive. Maybe it is a place to go to taste their beers, have their mussels and French fries, is not what I tried when I went, and I do not think I would go again. If I'm going to spend $100 for a dinner I would choose some other place.

                                                                Tiramisu cheap pasta?, pasta is cheap OK, but is a nice Italian restaurant, good salads and I have eaten good meat entrees as well. Maybe I would not make a special trip to Lincoln road to eat there, but if I'm spending the day there I would definitely eat in there and do not feel I'm overpaying.

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                                                                  Frodnesor Jul 25, 2007 11:36 AM

                                                                  Le Bon depends a lot on how you order. The beat the clock special (1/2 kg of mussels and fries for $9.50) is a fantastic deal. Regular menu prices, especially for entrees, can be quite expensive.
                                                                  And there is a certain logic to comparing Le Bon and Tiramesu, even if they're not quite the same type of place - they have the same owners (also Spris). Food is reliably decent at Tiramesu but I agree I wouldn't go out of my way to go there.

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                                                                    jkatz23 Jul 25, 2007 12:01 PM

                                                                    Is he also the owner of the other Spris (Coral Gables)?

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                                                                      lax2mia Jul 25, 2007 12:05 PM

                                                                      Don't agree they're comparable just because it's the same owner. In fact, I don't think that Spris, Tiramesu and Le Bon should be talked about in the same breath they're all different concepts.

                                                                      And yes, I believe Spris in CG is owned by teh same group.

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                                                              yomyb Jul 24, 2007 09:25 PM

                                                              I disagree with Tiramisu and Piola...I can never understand the hype about Piola. What do you like having there? Maybe it deserves a second chance?

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                                                                tpigeon Jul 25, 2007 08:07 AM

                                                                I like the pizza @ piola, their gnocci is also solid -- especially on the 29th of every month where it is all the gnocci you can eat for $12.

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                                                                  lax2mia Jul 25, 2007 08:34 AM

                                                                  I agree. For what it is (fairly priced pizza and pasta) they do a good job. I was wondering what gnocchi day was. Now it's on my calendar for Sunday night!

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                                                                mialebven Jul 25, 2007 03:29 PM

                                                                Where's Manhattan Bakery? Is it the one by the Carnival Center? Is it like the European Corner? Which is better, may I ask?

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                                                                  jkatz23 Jul 25, 2007 07:32 PM

                                                                  I do not know if there is another Manhattan Bakery, but the one that I mentioned is located in NMB:
                                                                  18240 Collins Ave
                                                                  Sunny Isles Bch, FL 33160
                                                                  (305) 936-8801

                                                                  Personally, I think that European Corner is far better than Manhattan Bakery. Their Cachapas, tequenos, arepas and chicha are much better. I think their cheese selection is the same (they both sell the same brand). Regarding prepared hot food, have not try either, so cannot say.

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                                                                  Manhattan Bakery
                                                                  Collins Ave, FL, USA, Collins Ave, FL

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                                                                  diablita FL Jul 29, 2007 09:06 AM

                                                                  "For healthy lunches try the place next to juice and java at the promenade shops in Aventura (Do not recall the name). Great salads and juices."

                                                                  I think you must be talking about Juice and Java itself. On either side of the restaurant are an eyeglass store and an Israeli clothing store. Juice and Java does have good juices and some of their dishes are really delicious, like the brown rice plate, in addition to being healthy.

                                                                  I didn't know the Locatel sold tequenos and the like; will have to check it out.

                                                                  As for El Rey chocolates, you can also find them at Whole Foods market. Many people don't realize that although lots of great chocolates come from Europe, the cocoa is often originally from SA (especially Vzla and Colombia) and there is some very good chocolate being produced there as well. El Rey is a great brand and, yes, I think underrated in the US.

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                                                                    jkatz23 Jul 29, 2007 09:15 AM

                                                                    I think you are right about the Juice and Java, after I posted it I then realized that maybe that is the actual place I was thinking about, but I do not know why the name did not ring a bell... Also, one of their employees left and open a very similar place I miami gardens in a strip mall (I think is called keystone) called Julios ( I think), also very good but the service is horrible...

                                                                    I also saw el Rey at wholefoods, have not compare prices with Locatel, but the second has very good prices in general.

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                                                                      diablita FL Jul 29, 2007 09:23 AM

                                                                      Just recently ate at Julio's. They have a juice with coconut milk and mango that is out of this world! We actually had a wonderful server, but were crammed into a corner and he was pulled in a million directions. Frenetic to say the least!

                                                                      And I will definitely check out that Locatel. Whole Paycheck's prices are almost always higher for everytthing. My grandmother is in Hallandale (aren't they all?) and I will be sure to take her there next time I visit.

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                                                                        jkatz23 Jul 29, 2007 09:34 AM

                                                                        Get also a tres leches at Locatel, my sister told me she bought one the other day and that is was delicious!

                                                                        I will try the juice that you mentioned, I love both cocnut and mango so that works for me...., good that you had a good server, I have always sitted outside and the last time we were there the service was soooo bad that my friends decided to leave no tip...I felt so bad for the lady... but imagine how bad she served us....

                                                                3. netmover Jul 24, 2007 06:48 PM

                                                                  Atlakatl-Salvadorean
                                                                  Adelitas-Honduran
                                                                  Liberty-Argentine
                                                                  Los Ranchos-Nicaraguan
                                                                  Mondongos-Colombian
                                                                  Francescos-Peruvian
                                                                  Luis Galindos Latin American-Cuban
                                                                  Mily's-Domincan
                                                                  La Esquina del Lechon-Venezuelan
                                                                  Lorenzo's Cafeteria-Italian
                                                                  Oggi-Italian
                                                                  Isla Canarias-Cuban
                                                                  Best Time Wine-French
                                                                  Woody's-Steak Sammies
                                                                  Enriquetas-Cuban
                                                                  Charcuterie-French
                                                                  Scorch-???
                                                                  Jaguar-Ceviche Spoon Bar and Latam Grill
                                                                  Arbetter's-Hot Dogs
                                                                  S&S Diner-American
                                                                  Mama Lucy's-Ribs
                                                                  Lario's-Cuban
                                                                  Elements-Continental
                                                                  Alta Cocina-???

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                                                                    yomyb Jul 24, 2007 09:20 PM

                                                                    I definitely agree with Liberty, Laurenzo's, and Enriqueta's. I don't know about Oggi...never impressed there. I would have to add Cafe Ragazzi, Le bon, Spris, and Paninoteca, Sheba ethiopian, A La Follie and Uva 69. Never feel like we include Heelsha enough in our boards either... ;-)

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                                                                      RP5 Mar 27, 2009 03:16 PM

                                                                      <a href="http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/12/1428028/restaurant/Doral-Miami-Springs/La-Esquina-de-Lechon-Miami"><img alt="La Esquina de Lechon on Urbanspoon" src="http://www.urbanspoon.com/b/link/1428..." style="border:none;width:200px;height:146px" /></a>

                                                                    2. SarahOM Jul 24, 2007 07:46 AM

                                                                      Well up North in my neck of the woods, I can mention Mama Mia's in Hollywood circle, even though its not the best italian, to me its pretty great. Went this past Sunday with my hsuband and another couple and they make the BEST fried mozarella. They have pretty good pizzas (flat breads) and they serve amazing portions, not to mention the huge mountain of delicious garlic rolls they give you at the beginning while you read the menu. Also in that same area, the Wine store/bar called Hollywood Vine, amazing wine and you can pick cheeses and some hams they have in the fridge, they cut them for you there. I also like Eddie Hill's for sushi, not your "pretty sushi joint" but good food. And well Scorch, great great meat.

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                                                                        LesleyEats Jul 24, 2007 09:14 AM

                                                                        Clarke's Miami Beach doesn't get nearly as many props as it deserves..it's not just an Irish bar, it's got great gourmet fare, original dishes like Irish Spring Rolls and amazing Montauk-style scallops..then there's the amazing mini Beef Wellington's that would make Gordon Ramsay jealous!

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                                                                          Frodnesor Jul 24, 2007 09:00 PM

                                                                          I've got to know, what is an Irish Spring Roll (other than a great pun)? Corned beef and cabbage in a wonton?

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                                                                            LesleyEats Jul 25, 2007 07:49 AM

                                                                            Hehehe, yes, you are spot on. It's so good!!

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                                                                            lax2mia Jul 25, 2007 06:10 AM

                                                                            I totally disagree. I've never had a good experience there. The servers are friendly but the food is mediocre in my opinion.

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                                                                              tarepanda Apr 3, 2009 03:44 PM

                                                                              We went there a few months back and were disappointed that their fish and chips were made w tilapia. They do have an interesting menu and nice decor though, I agree.

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                                                                            moralesmom Jul 7, 2011 09:02 PM

                                                                            WHat about Hollywood Boulevard and the area around Young's circle? We were driving there today and it seemed like there were a dozen small restaurants on one block. Has anyone got a recommendation in that area besides Chinatopia, which we love?

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                                                                            1824 Harrison St, Hollywood, FL 33020

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                                                                              Bigstu99 Jul 9, 2011 05:15 AM

                                                                              I'll just say some people just have no taste.... It would be nice to be happy with peasant tastes... Eddie hill passible only because nothing in area... Mama Mia Pizzeria food at best in a restaurant
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                                                                              Mama Mia Restaurant
                                                                              1818 S Young Cir, Hollywood, FL 33020

                                                                            2. lax2mia Jul 24, 2007 07:21 AM

                                                                              Pardo's - Peruvian rostisserie chicken place in Doral. Some of the best non-fried chicken I've had. Spiced just right and cooked so well that even the breast meat is juicy.

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                                                                                miachef Jul 24, 2007 06:05 AM

                                                                                Thank you for bringing this up. I read these boards daily and get tired of hearing about the same places over and over again. The other day I realized that all visitors or newcomers to Miami are missing out on some really great and different food by wanting to go only to trendy restaurants. Why not El Palacio de los Jugos or other smaller joints that sell good food? I agree with Frodnesor about El Rey del Chivito. That's a sandwich you must try and unlike any sandwich I've ever had. There's a great Colombian restaurant called La Moon on 8th street between SW 1st and 2nd Avenues -- nothing fancy but serves great food. I'd love to hear more recommendations about these types of places.

                                                                                1. Frodnesor Jul 23, 2007 08:41 PM

                                                                                  Step up to the plate with your own list!

                                                                                  Much of this board is dominated by comments about the newer trendy places because that's what visitors are interested in, and at least they get some genuine commentary on the good, the bad and everything in between.

                                                                                  I've generally found folks are also typically happy to share their own little discoveries too. My own personal list would include -

                                                                                  - tapas at El Carajo
                                                                                  - chivito sandwich at El Rey de Chivito
                                                                                  - sushi from Sushi Deli
                                                                                  - Japanese tapas at Yakko-San (which I learned of from this board)
                                                                                  - sopa de lima at Cheen Huaye
                                                                                  - Gourmet Diner - never mentioned by anyone but still cranking out great French bistro food

                                                                                  I've also got a lengthy list of places I haven't yet visited but want to get to as a result of other CH's recommendations - BBQ Beach, Scorch, the newly renovated Jumbo's, Sang's, Orale ...

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                                                                                    FoodOfMiami Apr 1, 2009 02:44 PM

                                                                                    My favorite underrated local Mexican Restaurant so far in Miami is Cheen-huaye. Favorite Dish - a classic Yucatecan dish, tastes just like a classic baked and simmering pork dish that a grandmother would cook… Conchinita Pibil - tender pork marinated in recado rojo (almost like a Mexican paprika thin sauce), served over plantain leaves and covered with shredded marinated red onions.... Delish!!

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                                                                                    Cheen Huaye
                                                                                    15400 Biscayne Blvd, Aventura, FL 33160

                                                                                     
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