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Seeking patio reco, Beaches or Leslieville

shocked Jul 23, 2007 05:55 PM

A group of girlfriends are planning a dinner out, on a Wednesday. We are thinking somewhere with a patio would be nice- but not Lion on the Beach or Firkin. Too 'pubby'.

We want to be able to chat, and get caught up, enjoy a nice glass of wine and good food.

Would love to hear your suggestions. Thanks

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    professor plum RE: shocked Jul 23, 2007 07:07 PM

    You might want to try the patio at Joy Bistro

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      embee RE: shocked Jul 23, 2007 07:35 PM

      Joy definitely has the best patio on Queen. Actually, there are two. One overlooks Jimmy Simpson park, is always open, and serves the regular menu. The second is enclosed between two buildings, is very "decorated", and serves a small plates menu.

      The food and service can both be very good, but are both very inconsistent. However, Joy is leagues above Lion or Firkin.

      (Strats also has two patios - street and rooftop. But it is very pubby and may have a more "colourful" clientele than you are seeking. Their curries and pizzas are quite good.)

      1. Dimbulb RE: shocked Jul 24, 2007 05:51 AM


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          millygirl RE: Dimbulb Jul 24, 2007 07:25 AM

          Joy is joyless. We really wanted to like this place and gave it 3 trys. Never again, food is horrible and service is worse. Yes they have a nice little patio at side but it really is BAD. We've tried the brunch a few times, once ordering what they called their gourmet grilled cheese...it arrived cold and was basically a couple of cold slices of cheddar on sour dough. REALLY REALLY LOUSY. The last time we stood in the doorway for about 15 minutes waiting....every few minutes a staff person would acknowledge us by saying 'be with you a minute' only to go back to folding napkins, making coffee, polishing glasses...anything but grabbing menus and seating us AND the place was half empty (I wonder why!!). Anyways we waited til someone finally came to get us and we told them we were leaving....taking our business to what is now called Fare Bistro down the road - name escapes me at moment. Anyways, what whankers!!!
          Go to Allen's on the Danforth instead!!!!!

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            embee RE: millygirl Jul 24, 2007 07:44 AM

            Yup, I did mention that both food and service are inconsistent. Caution not given casually, but both food and service actually CAN also be good, or even better than that.

            Brunch is the exception. Weekend brunch (which gets lineups) is NOT good at Joy (a bummer, since we live within a block) and we will not go then either.

            Unfortunately, Allen's is similar. The backyard patio is lovely but both the food (other than the burgers & wings) and the service are all over the map. Danforth has too many patios to bother listing unless shocked mentions it as a suitable destination.

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              Phoenix RE: millygirl Jul 25, 2007 02:47 PM

              So how was Fare Bistro?

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                millygirl RE: Phoenix Jul 25, 2007 03:00 PM

                Fare Bistro was just well, shall I say fair. Nothing to write home about. Which is unfortunate because I really wanted to like it....a good neighbourhood bistro would be very welcome in our 'hood. But it was no great shakes They did do a good reno job though. And to be fair, I went in the first week it opened. But I've read similar experiences from other hounds that the food was just so, so. I suppose I would give it another try though one of these days.

            2. re: Dimbulb
              Lyndalh RE: Dimbulb Jul 24, 2007 06:39 PM

              I second the Dimbulb's recommendation of Sauvignon

            3. thenurse RE: shocked Jul 24, 2007 07:50 AM

              Try Le Cafe Vert - great food, homey atmosphere, nice backyard patio.

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                embee RE: thenurse Jul 24, 2007 08:29 AM

                Backyard patio? I'll need to check that out. I was only aware of two tables on the Queen St sidewalk. Cafe Vert is lovely. I don't know whether they are open for dinner on Wednesdays.

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                  childofthestorm RE: embee Jul 24, 2007 09:50 AM

                  Leslie Jones also has a backyard patio, although I find the food there to be rather uninspired.

                  My wife and I, on a nice Sunday afternoon, usually end up at Strat's for an Indian appetizer and a pizza with a few pints. Tandoori meatballs and well-done margherita pizza...mmmm...

                  Oh, and that Italian place across from the Beach cinema has a nice shaded patio out front...what's the name again? Really classic old-timey "red sauce" spot with good pizza too.

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                    thenurse RE: childofthestorm Jul 24, 2007 10:24 AM

                    Casa di Giorgio

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                      childofthestorm RE: thenurse Jul 24, 2007 01:34 PM

                      Right, thanks. Not exactly a culinary journey, but sometimes I like classic Italian-American food.

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                        cord RE: childofthestorm Jul 24, 2007 04:00 PM

                        The first and only time so far I went to Casa di Giorgio last year it was actually a pleasant surprise. The pizza was good, and the service very good.

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                          hungryabbey RE: cord Jul 24, 2007 04:44 PM

                          i know I agree, I was there not long ago and had a pasta dish and it was actually surprisingly really good for an inexpensive meal. I would definetly recommend it and go back (it is really tiny though and was filled immediately)

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                    thenurse RE: embee Jul 24, 2007 10:24 AM

                    Yes, Cafe Vert is open on Wednesday.

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                  Zengarden RE: shocked Jul 24, 2007 03:52 PM

                  Boulevard Cafe on Harbord east of Bathurst. Good food and a lovely patio that isn't putting you right next to a major road.

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                    kgebhard RE: shocked Jul 25, 2007 08:14 AM

                    Agreed- would not do Joy ever again after having been there a few times and been extremely unimpressed with both service and food. Try "Sauvignon" at Queen and Woodbine- super cute, cosy and great food.

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                      millygirl RE: kgebhard Jul 25, 2007 10:38 AM

                      There is another italian restaurant also near queen and woobine-ish. I think its called ViaGicamo's or something like that....means come again soon or until we meet again...I'm stumbling here but hopefully someone will know the place I'm talking about. They moved in to that house and have a somewhat large patio in the front. The decor is kind of odd but the food is pretty good. Owners are very nice.

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                        thenurse RE: millygirl Jul 25, 2007 10:44 AM

                        Ci Vediamo.

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                          millygirl RE: thenurse Jul 25, 2007 10:51 AM

                          Yup, that's it...that's the one!!! Thanks Nurse.

                    2. thenurse RE: shocked Jul 25, 2007 12:23 PM

                      What about Lolabar? At Dundas and Carlaw. I haven't been but would love to hear/read a review:


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                        childofthestorm RE: thenurse Jul 25, 2007 03:45 PM

                        I went there once. Big problem with the patio is you're sitting on the corner of Dundas and Carlaw. No real escaping that.

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