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FoodFemme Jul 22, 2007 07:37 PM

Has anyone been to Matsuhisa in LA? Is it worth the $$$$?

  1. ipsedixit Jul 22, 2007 08:14 PM

    I've never had a bad meal at Matsuhisa.

    As to whether it is worth the money, that's only something you can determine based on your budget, expectations, etc.

    That said, you can easily spend much more at many other sushi/japanese joints in LA and not get the same quality offered at Matsuhisa.

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    1. re: ipsedixit
      OCAnn Jul 23, 2007 10:43 AM

      What ipse said.

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      revets2 Jul 22, 2007 11:23 PM

      our favorite way to eat at MATSUHISA is in the omakase room. you need a resers. only about 8-10 seats. worth the $$$$.

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        rickym13 Jul 22, 2007 11:52 PM

        is this at their new location on la cienega? what is the price for the omakase now? it was $90 - $150 last time we went which was few years ago.

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          revets2 Jul 23, 2007 04:58 PM

          you can still have at the old location. prices really depends on market and what you eat. i've had it range wide between $70 - $150.

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            QualityMart Jul 25, 2007 08:28 AM

            Are you talking about the up-coming Nobu restaurant on La Cienega? If not, what old location?

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              revets2 Jul 25, 2007 01:39 PM

              the only old location of MATSUHISA there is. we've been doing the omakase bar there for years. i don't think it's underground, but it's the room to right as soon as you enter the restaurant that is subtly hidden behind a screen of sliding doors. reservations required.

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                QualityMart Jul 26, 2007 01:18 AM

                Yeah, I know about the omakase room, but I was confused by the comment by rickym13 "is this at their new location on la cienega?"

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                  rickym13 Jul 26, 2007 09:58 AM

                  oh...sorry. i wasn't sure if they move to the new location where l'orangerie was.

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                    JBC Jul 26, 2007 02:41 PM

                    It's at the old location as the transformation of the old L'Orangerie location isn't scheduled to be ready (open) until Jaunary, 08. (Don't be surprised if it's later...).

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                      rickym13 Jul 26, 2007 02:50 PM

                      wow...really? i thought they were shooting for sometime this summer

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                        JBC Jul 26, 2007 03:09 PM

                        They legally became the new owners 00:00:01 A.M. 1/01/07? Anyways, that may have been their original hope; however, letting the building inspectors snoop around a building undergoing rehab, including those recently built if they were fininshed before the 1994 earthquake, can result in all kinds of unexpected changes DEMANDED by those pesky Clouseaus before they'll sign off.

                        How do I know that the current estimate is 1/08?

                        Easy, I did it the old fashion way - I just called & asked.

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                        QualityMart Jul 26, 2007 11:54 PM

                        Regardless of Nobu coming to the L'Orangerie location, everything I've heard is that Matsuhisa is going nowhere.

                        Is there any new information otherwise? (There was originally a rumor that Matsuhisa was closing but I thought that was retracted.)

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                          revets2 Jul 27, 2007 12:16 AM

                          last we heard, nobu has tentatively agreed to keep the original location open and see if biz sustains after the NOBU opening.

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          Frank_Santa_Monica Jul 23, 2007 12:36 AM

          Yes; it's worth every penny. And, the way to go is the Omakase.

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            Beignets Jul 24, 2007 12:20 AM

            I simply like Matsuhisa for its board specials - which will have things not easily found in other upscale sushi joints. I've never been disappointed in their food except for one time at Nobu Malibu (which, amazingly, the waiter actually admitted it was an off night and comped a few things) but I've never walked out feeling like I got a great deal either. I don't actually like all the celeb hype but they're definitely a respectable sushi joint, hype and all.

            1. omotosando Jul 24, 2007 10:37 PM

              For a different opinion. I have been to Matsuhisa many many times with people who are regulars. They always order up an astonishing amount of food, so I think I have tried every single thing on the menu. I have never ever enjoyed a single meal there and would never spend my own hard-earned money there. I find the sushi mediocre and the atmosphere to be cramped and unattractive.

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                revets2 Jul 25, 2007 12:32 AM

                have you eaten in the omakase room (8 seats)? it's like eating at a totally different restaurant.

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                  omotosando Jul 26, 2007 10:43 AM

                  No. Does the food for the Omakase room come from a different kitchen and different sushi chefs? Or is it more that they use different fish than they give the hoi polloi in the rest of the restaurant? I've certainly had extensive omakase at Matsuhisa, albeit not in the Omakase Room.

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                    revets2 Jul 26, 2007 01:20 PM

                    there are at least two sushi chefs that only serve the omakase room. it don't see them putting together sushi plates and someone whisking them back into the kitchen or taking them out of the room, so most likely different chefs. kitchen? well, they're pretty much making it for you right there. different fish? i really don't know.

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                      brunello Jul 28, 2007 11:20 AM

                      The sushi chefs rotate between the omakase room and the main bar on different days. Personally, I think Matsuhisa is highly overrated for a good 5 years now. I go when my sushi chef is running the omakase room (he tells me when I go when he'll be in again), but it's all very average throughout the restaurant and I don't feel the cut of fish is up to the standard of some of the other newer sushi restaurants today. On top of which, the restaurant looks/decore seem to be in awful condition (omakase room included seeing as it is really just a shuttered off area) for what was once the preeminent sushi restaurant in LA. I actually have slowly had a disdain for the whole Nobu empire. Malibu is just a celebutard hangout with very little emphasis placed on the fish or creativity and the ones in Vegas and NYC seem just off-shoots to capitalize on a name (meaning that it's more about "going to Nobu" that "going to Nobu to have spectacular sushi")

                      N.B.
                      The omakase room does get a different grade of fish and more specialties/ (less quantity bought fish) than the main room. This is the only reason I go there as it isn't any more expensive than most omakases in better LA sushi joints and I like my sushi chef.

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                epop Jul 28, 2007 10:12 AM

                i would never go back, even if it were inexpensive. it is a basic place for average sushi, very rushed service and a few decent (one time innovative) entrees served in an ugly environment with a big check at the end, as if they're doing you a favor. i greatly prefer other places but as you see others differ.

                1. adevejian Jul 28, 2007 12:10 PM

                  I prefer Nobu to Matsuhisa.

                  I think it's worth trying out, though we've grown tired of it after about seven or so visits ... because we feel its a bit overpriced for what it is. Not impressed with the quality of the fish in their sushi, though I've only had it at Nobu and not Matsuhisa.

                  Favorite dishes:
                  - Yellowtail w/ Jalapeno
                  - Lobster Salad
                  - Udon
                  - Rock Shrimp
                  - Dessert Spring Rolls

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                    revets2 Jul 28, 2007 04:09 PM

                    how can you prefer NOBU to MATSUHISA if you've never been to MATSUHISA?

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                      adevejian Jul 28, 2007 04:27 PM

                      I have been to Matsuhisa.
                      I meant that I haven't tried the sushi at Matsuhisa (just ordered entrees) so I can't comment on it.

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                      karynx78 Jul 29, 2007 11:20 AM

                      adevejian,

                      I totally agree with you. I've been to 3 different Nobu's and never really felt like I got what I paid for. Our last visit was to the one in Vegas and for 2 people we did the most expensive omakase with 2 bottles of sake and the bill came out to be $450 before tip. I really wished I knew about Sushi Zo earlier. My experience there blew Nobu away in terms of quality and exoticness.

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