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b&w cookies

dbug31 Jul 22, 2007 12:03 PM

where might my ex-ny'er friend find one?

she's in Long Beach...

  1. Hypnotic23 Jul 22, 2007 12:45 PM

    Best spot for these is BEE'S BAKERY in Encino, trust me!

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    1. re: Hypnotic23
      Emme Jul 22, 2007 10:08 PM

      *Bea's,* you mean? Yes very good.

      Love Beverlywood Bakery on Pico, and Nate'n'Al's has pretty good ones too.

      If Gelson's is in Long Beach w/ a Viktor Benes', give theirs a go.

      Finally, ironically enough, Jerry's Deli makes a really good B'n'W, which in the Marina would be closer to Long Beach...

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      glutton Jul 22, 2007 05:00 PM

      You could get them at Junior's Deli at Westwood/Pico in West LA. They also have them at Brent's Deli in Northridge. Neither of those are terribly convenient to Long Beach, unfortunately.

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      1. re: glutton
        mr. O Feb 18, 2008 12:49 PM

        Junior's are EXCELLENT and highly addictive.

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        justagthing Jul 22, 2007 10:19 PM

        can you tell me what a b & w cookie is?

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        1. re: justagthing
          Das Ubergeek Jul 22, 2007 10:35 PM

          It's a sugar cookie with half white icing and half chocolate icing.

          Billy's Deli (Glendale and Torrance) has good B&Ws... they get them from Bea's.

          1. re: Das Ubergeek
            westsidegal Jul 22, 2007 11:23 PM

            the 'cookie' portion, though, is not as crisp nor dense as a normal sugar cookie.
            (sort of like a cross between a sugar cookie and sponge cake).

            1. re: Das Ubergeek
              Arthur Jul 22, 2007 11:44 PM

              "B&W" stands for "black and white." It is a semi-soft cookie, half of which is covered with chocolate icing while the other half is covered with vanilla. Despite the straight line down the middle, it's kind of yin-yang-ish.

              All due respect to Das, but I've had gazillions of them and not one would be recognized as a "sugar cookie." Every sugar cookie I've ever had has been crisp and covered with sugar crystals, which b&w's most certainly are not.

              1. re: Arthur
                Das Ubergeek Jul 24, 2007 08:42 AM

                Hm, maybe I'm thinking of different sugar cookies than you are -- the crisp-with-sugar things are Danish cookies to me.

                1. re: Das Ubergeek
                  Arthur Jul 24, 2007 12:24 PM

                  The following is a link to a picture that represents my notion of a typical sugar cookie:


                  I have just now seen a few recipes online for sugar cookies that are frosted. However, even those appear to have a granulated-sugar crunchiness to their texture. B&W cookies do not.

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                    Arthur Jul 24, 2007 12:42 PM

                    BTW, for those who've never seen one, below is a basic, unadorned photo of a standard black-and-white cookie. It doesn't really capture what all the fuss is about, but still...

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                      westsidegal Sep 29, 2007 04:47 PM

                      the cookie shown in that picture is not at all similar to the cookie that forms the base of a b&w

                  2. re: Arthur
                    Fresser Sep 29, 2007 03:24 PM

                    Wouldn't even classify it as a semi-soft cooke. That would be a chewy choc-chip type. It's actually a white cake based cookie frosted with half choc/half vanilla.

                  3. re: Das Ubergeek
                    Dav Jul 24, 2007 09:41 AM

                    And in a true B&W the vanilla icing has a touch of lemon.

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                      Arthur Jul 24, 2007 01:00 PM

                      Maybe in some recipes, but I don't agree that there is lemon in the vanilla frosting of a "true," authentic version. When there is any lemon flavoring at all, it tends to be in the cookie, not in the vanilla icing. As the famous Seinfeld episode extolled, the black-and-white cookie represents vanilla and chocolate living together in harmony (...cue Stevie and Paul...). If there were lemon in the icing, it wouldn't really be vanilla anymore.

                      1. re: Arthur
                        Diana Jul 25, 2007 06:22 AM

                        "As the famous Seinfeld episode extolled, the black-and-white cookie represents vanilla and chocolate living together in harmony (...cue Stevie and Paul...)"

                        You know, I always thought of them as the official cookie of the Cheronians, the black and white faced aliens from "Star Trek " (am I a nerd or what?)

                        "He is inferior! He is white on his right side and black on his left. I am superior, I am white on my left side and black on my right!"

                2. Kris P Pata Jul 23, 2007 02:15 AM

                  B&W in the 562? The LBC is a more than a bit deli-challenged, my friend. It's a certainty to say that in terms of delicatessens, Long Beach, CA is not Long Beach, NY but, I'm guessing your gf know this? The sole option that comes to mind has to be KATELLA DELI just over the border in Los Al. If you're staying to eat, don't expect anything overtly authentic -- to the tune of corn bread with your Chicken noodle soup -- but, whaddya want? It's Orange County for goodness' sake.

                  Still, it's serviceable and the bakery is more than impressive with regard to selection.

                  Katella Deli-Restaurant
                  4470 Katella Ave, Los Alamitos, CA 90720

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                  1. re: Kris P Pata
                    justagthing Jul 23, 2007 06:52 AM

                    The corn bread is good too, but it is only one of your many choices that they give you. You can have the bread basket (that has several different types of bread), a muffin of your choice or what I usually order when I have the matzoh ball soup, onion rolls. BTW...my favorite cookie there it the seven layer cookie. Yummy!

                    1. re: Kris P Pata
                      Oh Robin Jul 23, 2007 01:24 PM

                      Katella Deli is your best bet. Less than 15 minutes away from LBC. Soft puffy and yummy. Enjoy...

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                      jeffrey Jul 23, 2007 09:32 AM

                      Don't know about Long Beach, but L.A.'s best are at Bea's Bakery in Tarzana.

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                        Diana Jul 23, 2007 09:47 AM

                        second third and fourth

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                          Jwsel Jul 23, 2007 12:46 PM

                          And fifth

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                        tannazie Jul 23, 2007 10:19 AM

                        canter's on fairfax has a pretty good one too.

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                        1. re: tannazie
                          Clyde Jul 23, 2007 02:42 PM

                          a few stores north of canters is Schwartz Bakery which has amazing black & white cookies. Canter's pastries i find to be too dry. Schwartz is great.

                          1. re: Clyde
                            JeetJet Jul 23, 2007 06:22 PM

                            I got some chocolate covered macoroons at Canter's two weeks ago and they were dry comparied to every other time I bought them there over the years. I notice many new faces behind the counters in that place also. I wonder whether this dry cookie thing is something new or whether it will go away soon? However, my rye bread was very good toasted the next morning -- not dry. I noticed a stack of large B&W cookies in the case and they looked better than most of the other cookies on the day I was there. I had a Reuben there when we went and it was great with there thousand island. Four of us ate sandwiches and were happy.

                            1. re: JeetJet
                              vermontpoet Jul 24, 2007 09:50 AM

                              My husband grew up in the Boston area and adores B&W cookies, although in Boston they're called Half Moons. Same cookie, different name. However, he is exceedingly particular about his Half Moons. Only those from a certain couple of bakeries will do. He'd rather eat sawdust than eat a supermarket bakery version of the cookie.
                              I found a recipe online for them...and made them for him one Christmas ...but mine didn't measure up and he wasn't polite enough to pretend they did. LOL

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                          priscilla2 Jul 24, 2007 12:45 PM

                          I would mail order from Dean & Deluca. May cost as much as driving to Northridge from LB.

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                            lilygirl Jul 24, 2007 01:10 PM

                            Katella Deli as recommended ... I would call first if your making a special trip ... for some reason sometimes they are not in the case but if you ask for them they are in the back. Try a "Pink" cookie while your at it ...

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                            1. re: lilygirl
                              Oh Robin Jul 25, 2007 08:23 AM

                              Have you ever tried a "chinese" cookie from Katella? A big tender almond cookie with a ginormous blob of chocolate frosting in the middle. I love Katella's b&w's. So soft, kind of like a flat cupcake. They will also make small ones for a special order.

                            2. CynD Jul 24, 2007 01:16 PM

                              In Long Beach, the closest place is Katella Deli, on Katella east of Los Alamitos/Seal Beach Blvd. They're not the best in the LA area, but they're the best (the only?) in the LB area.

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                                Josh90004 Sep 29, 2007 02:15 AM

                                Is there a How's market nearby? I recently had a wonderful B&W at the Noho How's. Nice and big, very moist cake/cookie, thick yummy frosting, and only $2. Also had a slice of red velvet cake that was very good, and only $3 I think.

                                1. Azizeh Barjesteh Sep 29, 2007 02:57 AM

                                  Jerry's Famous Deli in Marina Del Rey has them. Although, I havent tasted them, only seen them there.

                                  I also remember seeing them at South Coast Plaza at the French place, Champagne Bakery. I think I ate one and it was tasty. But, I'm not a follower of the cookies, so I wouldnt know better.

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                                    bulavinaka Sep 29, 2007 03:44 PM

                                    I picked one up from Hot Cakes on Centinela in Mar Vista last week. The owner is a Parisian but seems to have a pretty good rendition of this New York kinda soft and fluffy sugary cookie that is doin' the ebony & ivory thing on top... like a madeleine shaped like a 4-inch round with chocolate and sugar icing on top, right?

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                                      Bite Me Sep 29, 2007 11:56 PM

                                      Victor Benes bakery, located in Gelson's market. Saw them at the West Hollywood location last week.

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