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Jul 17, 2007 08:42 AM

Hell's Kitchen -- July 16th

Best moment? Worst moment? Best Worst Moment?

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    1. I like the waffle house cook. She kicked it on the steaks. I watch the show..I've tried not to..but I guess it is like watching a trainwreck..ya just have to watch.

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      1. re: melly

        Agreed - really not indicative of what working in a real professional kitchen is like (although I wouldn't know anything about that) but still fun to watch. And *knowing* it's not "reality" makes it easier to watch with a grain of salt (fleur de sel, of course!).

        I was floored at how snotty Jen got towards Bonnie, and how childish she was in not speaking to anyone on her team. Loved that Julia spoke up when Chef Ramsay asked if everyone was on board with their menu, and he agreed to their making the menu change to include the strip steaks. Total vindication for Julia.

        Couldn't understand why Bonnie would suggest making rabbit when none of the three of them had made it before!

        Rock is getting on my every nerve. Really dislike his use of the third person when referring to himself and the "I'm better than all of you attitude", when he's screwed up enough as well. Looks like he and Jen get into a tiffle next week.

        Will be interesting to see how the entire group works together next week as one happy family.

        1. re: LindaWhit

          Julia's idea for the steak was a good one,they had orders right and left for her steak.Vindication for her.I wonder why they didn't debone the rabbit.Was it supposed to be an entree or an appetizer? I think in the next episode Rock winds up getting out of Hell's Kitchen. In the promo for next week they mention Ramsey telling someone to get out in the middle of cooking.later you see Rock saying how he's disappointed his family and himself.So,I assume he's the one Ramsey tells to leave.
          Guess Bonnie was trying to be fancy in regards to the rabbit. Never at home
          did we ever wrap rabbit with bacon.We would do the honey curry rabbit recipe on the Pel-Freez box.Have to try it sometime with chicken breasts or thighs.

          1. re: HollyDolly

            I'm still suspicious of promo makers in general and I think it's a red herring.

            1. re: Blueicus

              Agree with Blueicus - I don't think Rock's going. The editing on the promos is designed to suck us in next week to see if he's booted. Just as last night, it looked like Josh was going because he kept repeating that he was tired of being the fall-guy for the team, and then after the commercial, Brad announced that he himself was on the chopping block.

            2. re: HollyDolly

              I'm for Julia. If I were a souschef, I'd rather work for her than any of the others, and that, to me, says 'kitchen that works.'

              Sure, she doesn't know escargot from foie gras, but if she simply ran "julia's steak house" in some fancy Vegas hotel, with alternatives of a good fish chef, she'd do very well economically.

              In some measure I feel for Rock: he's not coming across too loveable, but trying to play the game as he understands it to be, and yet I don't think he understands how to make people want to work for him.

              Julia all the way, in my estimation.

        2. With little jfood home from college jfood is relegated to the library to watch this show. Although he agrees that Ramsey is a complete jerk, the howls coming from jfood are getting more and louder. last night was great.


          - Gordo choosing the men in the challenge. Oh yeah, let jfood think this through. The women win the photo shoot and the men win the paint ball. Nothing sexist there.
          - Rock sets Brad up by saying almost nothing while 100% of the menu is Brad's, then he sits back and watches Josh get cooked more than the lamb. What a yutz.
          - Jen B-slapping Bonnie. Classic
          - Julia B-slapping both Jen and Bonnie with her strip steaks.
          - Julia told to cook the rabbit appetizer (even though everyone agreed they did not know how to cook it) and then she NAILED it.
          - So what if the fish that was delivered was all carcasses, what the heck did that have to do with the show? Better if Mary Ann would have thrown it at Bonnie
          - Jen performing her weekly T-Rex walk ("Oh no I do not walk like that)
          - Let's see, Ramsey kicking off the cute blonde or the guy, yeah right that was a surprise. Brad actually tried to help Josh by Frenching the lamb, got yelled at by Ramsey, then the team gets nailed for not pitching in, then Brad gets axed. Hello, little contradiction here?

          And Jfoods favorite and he hopes others waited for next week's previews:

          - Rock crying like a mealy mouthed adolescent. "I disappointed me, my family..." Classic Rocky turns to a weenie. Throw him on a bun with some mustard and relish.

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            1. re: LindaWhit

              Just started watching and am too entertained by this show...
              I think a bit "curious" the girls happen to win photo shoot and guys win paint ball.. hmm...
              Oh well-easy entertainment for sure.

              1. re: dklipscomb

                that theory would make sense only if any of the girls were good looking, which they are not.

                I am glad Brad is gone, and I still believe Jen, or Rock should win. Having a nanny, who has only stepped in a real kitchen only once she got on this show, winning would be pretty bad.

                I do not watch the show from start to finish, but click over in between innings of the baseball games.

                As I have stated on previous posts regarding this show, I really like Gordon, he is a carbon copy of many of the screamers I worked with/for back in the day.

            2. re: jfood

              per our earlier discussion, jfood, i'm glad you're enjoying something about the show. i've missed a few weeks running, just caught last night's so i'm out of the loop. i think the only reason bonnie is still there is so one of the contestants at the end will be "cute." she and josh are worthless. thought it was astute of ramsay to glance over jen and bonnie's pretentious menu and then ask julia which dish was her influence. when she answered that none of them were, he pretty much said her main was going on the menu, and it sold like *erm* hotcakes-- good for her!

              they always get into trouble when their menus try to be above their cooking level, yet they still always try it, just like in the real world-- funny!

              when i saw previews for this season i really thought all the contestants would be industry folks with a little talent but i have no idea where these people are coming from, it's been a bit of a let down. the editing for fox audiences is horrible and makes the whole thing pretty contrived. dh and i always get our biggest laugh from 1/2 of a soundbite of j.p. or mary ann that didn't get clipped out of a closeup of a contestant's stricken face, etc. wish i could just watch 40 mins of those guys!

              ah well, such is life with only 7 channels. all i can say is that josh better get sent back to outback or wherever they got him from next week. oh yeah, if they got him from outback he'd know how to cook meat. . .

              1. re: soupkitten

                well it was a kitten who taught an old dog a new trick. after a punishing day, watching these escapades is quite entertaining. but as the earlier discussion described, jfood would still probably pass on going to the resto.

                1. re: soupkitten

                  I'm voting Julia all the way. That girl has guts. She keeps saying that she doesn't know fine dining (and everyone else never hesitates to remind her), but I think she has the most promise of the lot. If she did some time in a "real" fine dining kitchen, she would learn quickly and be an asset to the establishment. If she does not win, I hope she gets a great job out of it. She deserves it.

                  1. re: KTBearW

                    My prediction final 3 will be Julia, Jen and Rock. Final 2 probably Julia and Rock (but only for drama purposes). Rock will win in the end, he's an executive chef and Julia a waffle house cook. Green Valley Ranch won't like the cachet of having their expensive fancy restaurant run by a waffle house cook.

                    1. re: RBCal

                      Do you really think Green Valley Ranch would accept anyone from Hell's Kitchen to really run the back of their high-end restaurant? I don't think so, I think the reality is that it is just a "figure head" position, if that. The person probably gets a limited contract, and the real executive cheffing will come from a seasoned professional, no way would any half way competent business owner put their business in the hands of some reality TV winner.

                      I do predict good things for Julia, whether she is the winner of Hells' Kitchen or not, she is a real winner, she has the humility, the heart, and the native talent to learn to be an excellent asset in any restaurant kitchen.


                      1. re: ChinoWayne

                        Note, they never say it's a high-end restaurant. It's a restaurnt in a casino. Last year's winner is the chef at a pasta restaurant. I'm sure it's good, but it's not high-end in the same sense as say a Gordon Ramsay restaurant.

                        1. re: sgwood415

                          The point is, that it is not a local Applebee's, and there is more expectation out of a casino restaurant that is A) not the coffee shop or B) not a chain formula. It is part of the "brand" the casino puts on everything, and as such, they are not going to let anyone embarass them.

                          1. re: ChinoWayne

                            "not a chain formula" While not chains per se, most of the casino restaurants are very formulaic. Sure the casinos promote their fancier places and big name chefs, but most of the restaurants fit into neat little formulas. There's the pasta place, the steak house, the sushi bar, the American buffet formula, it goes on. I'm not saying they're bad, but my point is this winner will not be the chef at a high-end place. Although they do exist in the casinos and yes, they are part of a casino's brand image, believe me, this competition is not for one of those.

                      2. re: RBCal

                        sad to say jfood thinks that julia/josh go in the next 2 weeks. josh probably first so you get macho-man versus the three women. then julia who is great technician but ramsey going to say they need someone with vision for the resto. then jen gets the axe, then we get the perfect finale rock versus bonnie

                        1. re: jfood

                          I hope it won't be rock versus bonnie, although that's sorta what it'll look like... that'll remind me too much of last season's Virginia vs. Heather and Bonnie looks about as clueless on the line as Virginia.

                          1. re: jfood

                            I think it would be even better to have Rock vs. Julia as Final 2 - the perceived high and low-end of the cheftestant spectrum. And then even better if Julia beat him. :-)

                            I agree with ChinoWayne - the winner has got to be a figurehead for a period of time, but probably gets to be a sous or line chef? But I also think Julia will do well in her career, win or lose.

                            1. re: LindaWhit

                              i think they get a 1 year contract as "executive" chef-- but the chef d'cuisine will really run the show in the actual restaurant. what the executive chef actually does in a restaurant can range from getting drunk at the bar all day & every day with patrons to literally running the entire show, cooking multiple stations and doing enormous amt of prep and finishing the majority of the food. some executive chefs all they do is the ordering/purchasing, with some collaboration on menus-- they're culinary accountants.

                              what the hk winner will "get" to do for gvr will have a lot to do with how actually competent s/he is, and also by how s/he captures the public imagination. better believe the restaurant will put the winner on a station or at the window of an open kitchen if they think that's what the dining public wants to see.

                              1. re: soupkitten

                                Exactly right! The Executive Chef at the restaurant where I cooked would drift in once a week, make orders, yell at us and then go to some meetings with the business owners.

                                1. re: sgwood415

                                  Best "prize" for Julia would be some formal time in in a proper kitchen - even with GR. But out of lime light.


                    2. re: jfood

                      !!! I turned to my husband when the guys' reward was the paintball thing and said "funny how they won that, and the girls won the photo shoot." ridiculous.

                      T-Rex walk ... so perfect.

                      1. re: LulusMom

                        i said the same thing to my husband too! what i wonder if it is fixed, or if they pick and choose the reward based on which team wins.

                    3. I like Julia too. I'm rooting for her.

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                      1. re: partysugar

                        I like Julia as well, but don't expect her to win. She will probably be offered a position in one of Ramsay's other operations so she can be properly trained, though.

                        I expect we'll be down to Rock and Jen for the final two, although it's hard to say between those two who will win. Jen has shown stronger leadership on the show, but I don't know if she's actually the stronger leader, or if Rock is refusing to show his leadership skills while the weaker cooks get picked off.

                      2. Come Now!

                        The best moment from last night was when GR said something that Brad made tasted like BOVRIL!

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                        1. re: C. Hamster

                          Loved that moment too ... my mum used to serve us a cup of Bovril for a "treat". Ah, good times.

                          Did anyone else notice that Jen shoved the food down her pie-hole at the In Style photoshoot all the while chewing with her mouth open, lips smacking, etc? I realize I'm a little OCD about table manners but it was really quite over the top. Put me right off her.

                          1. re: yumyum

                            Did notice that the editors were showing her eating and drinking most of the time at the photo shoot. NOT attractive.

                            1. re: LindaWhit

                              Quite right. She really shouldn't eat. She obviously needs to lose a bunch of weight.


                              1. re: Atomica

                                Excuse me? Where in what I wrote did I say Jen needed to lose weight? My comment was strictly about her always being shown eating at the photo shoot, as yumyum said, and that showing her always eating wasn't attractive.

                                Unfortunately, what is seen is what the editors want you to see. Her eating could have been all of maybe 5-10 minutes out of a 3-4 hour photo shoot, but that's what the editors chose to cut into the show.

                                However, I *did not* say she needed to lose weight. Please don't put words in my mouth! Sheesh.

                                1. re: LindaWhit

                                  Okay, that was clumsy of me. What I meant is that I don't understand the big fuss about seeing her eat. I barely even noticed it. There was a huge spread of food and she ate some. She was filmed taking part of the goods and the powers-that-be decided it would be fun to show her off as an uncouth being by eating food and enjoying it. I just don't think it would have had such an "Eww!" factor for some people if it had been Brad, for example.

                                  1. re: Atomica

                                    It probably would have been MORE of an "Ewww!" factor for me if it had been Brad. :-)

                                    I guess some of us noticed the constant eating by Jen being shown, and others didn't notice it as much.

                                    1. re: LindaWhit

                                      I can't say I noticed it at all... yes there was food and drink, and yes they had some... I didn't notice any one person in particular (except that that green dress was most unflattering!)

                                      1. re: Kajikit

                                        The green dress on Julia? Yes, I agree - and it looked like Julia didn't like it much either!

                                    2. re: Atomica

                                      I wasn't opposed to her eating, I was opposed to her shovelling food into her trap and gulping it down like a trained seal on a bucket of tiny fish. I didn't notice the others eating ... that's the point.

                                        1. re: Atomica

                                          I have more of an issue with the fact that she TOOK PASTA OUT OF THE GARBAGE WASHED IT OFF AND ATTEMPTED TO SERVE IT! I would not eat in her resto.

                                          1. re: berna

                                            can't get over that either, myself.

                                2. re: C. Hamster

                                  Ha! I caught the Bovril remark and noticed the blank look on the contestants' faces ...

                                  1. re: Debbie M

                                    ok jfood will bite. what's bovril?

                                    1. re: jfood

                                      Ask and ye shall receive:

                                      My mother used to make us hot bovril when we'd been out playing in the cold and needed something to warm us up. I recall it being very salty - kind of like a boullion cube taste, but that may be a faulty recollection.

                                      1. re: ElsieDee

                                        That's how my mother did it, too. It was like dissolving an oxo cube in a cup (she did that too, we were poor) but maybe just a little more "beefy" flavor. GR was looking down his nose at the mushroom broth as flavorless and cheap, by comparing it to Bovril.

                                        1. re: yumyum

                                          Thanks guys/gals. too bad jfood did not know at the time, another hoot would have come out of the library.