Pho & Great Steak
- RobertM Jul 13, 2007 11:39 AM
Two questions really.
Pho: Who in Austin offers the best bowl of Pho.
Steak: Who cooks up the best Prime Rib Eye / Porterhouse / KC Strip In Austin?
Using the new, improved “search this board” link at the top of the page, I pulled up several relevant threads (the first is about pho; the rest are on steak):
These cover the usual suspects. Was there something specific that you’re looking for—in terms of price, ambience, part of town, food combinations?
I've got to tell you that despite being in the middle of Texas, Austin is not the place to find a great steakhouse. You can do much better in Dallas or New York. You can find the best of what we've got in the above threads, but depending on where you're coming from, it may not be worth your time. If you want to enjoy what the locals do, you're better off exploring our excellent barbeque and Mexican options. We do have a lot of Vietnamese to offer. I think the consensus on best pho is Tan My (formerly Tan Tan). You should be able to find plenty of posts about it here. Hope that helps.
re: Brian Lindauer
Thanks for the reply. I live in DC, so we are flooded with all the white table cloth steak joints. There are a few local gems, Ray's is one, where you can get the same great steak without going broke, that I thought may abound in Texas. I will just stick to Pho, BBQ, and MexTex. But I gotta go to sonic too. None of those in my area.
Ruth chris is probably one of the worst corporate steak houses imo. I've never had a steak properly cooked there (i've ordered both medium rare and rare, both times it arrived decidedly medium well to well - an irreversable mistake) and the lobster was a) over priced and b) flavorless. If you don't mind the corporate vibe and financial pain of chain steakhouses, try Flemings. They have a supurb mixed grill item with Lamb, Filet and Tiger shrimp (had it in Houston, may be different in Austin). Also, don't miss the fries which are doused in plenty of salt and course cracked pepper.
What you say, foodiefound, may be true; Ruth's Chris is not the best steak in the world, I would definitely agree. I love a good steak, so I've tried to keep a good head on my shoulders about who had the best quality steak in Austin. I care more about the deliciousness, and less about the fact that the place is a chain.
In my experience, Ruth's Chris is superior to most of the other chains.
Statistical sample size is important when evaluating places, as is duration. I'll put my first year, my last year, and approx. total # of meals at said venue when scoring them. Note: places that score really low do not get a lot of total meals for obvious reasons. Also note that some chains have multiple locations. In these cases, I've averaged them. This makes for an inaccurate data set, but I'm too lazy to go further. Also, forgive me if I'm inaccurate by +-1 year, or number of visits within an order of magnitude. Some of these places I didn't need to visit often to learn that I didn't want to repeat visit. Others had decent steak, but the price/quality ratio was out-of-whack versus the competition.
Ranking Austin-area chains-only, solely based on steak quality:
name -- f.year -- l.year -- t.visits
Finn & Porter* -- 2007 -- 2007 -- 3
Ruth's Chris -- 1999 -- 2006 -- 15
Sullivan's -- 2003 -- 2006 -- 7
Fleming's -- 2005 -- 2006 -- 2
Truluck's -- 1996 -- 2006 -- 10
McCormick & Schmick -- 2004 -- 2005 -- 2
Carrabba's -- 1995 -- 2006 -- 20
Roy's -- 2005 -- 2006 -- 3
Outback -- 1999 -- 2004 -- 6
Cool River -- 2003? -- 2003? -- 1
San Francisco -- 1998? -- 1998? -- 1
Saltgrass -- 2003? -- 2003? -- 1
Texas Land & Cattle -- 2000 -- 2006 - 4
Ryan's -- 1999? -- 1999? -- 1
Golden Corral -- 1999? -- 1999? -- 1
The best place on this list (F&P) is not my favorite place to get a steak in Austin. I prefer Backstage Steakhouse, Mars**, Vespaio, Wink, and (depending on my mood) Chez Nous, Enoteca, and possibly Castle Hill to F&P. These places are not chains, however, so they are not scored above.
Bottom line: Ruth's Chris ain't bad. It is approximately tied with Sullivan's and Fleming's, in my book; I've had extremely good steak there.
Finally, I must agree with other posters that Austin isn't the best place for steak in Texas. Fort Worth, Dallas, and Houston are all vastly superior on this front.
* In my experience, this place isn't great: their sushi has been downright nasty, and their other items have been mediocre at best.
** Recent first visit to new location revealed an absurd and needless change in tenderloin prep & sauce technique. Very disappointed; steak still great, but not nearly as good as once was. Will revisit to solidify opinion.
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Nobody is talking Pho! The best place closed, and what a shame, it was called Fortune Pho and was it a treat. A steaming large bowl of vegetarian pho with extra vegetables was under $5 and big enough for two meals! But the value wasn't in the portion it was in the deliciously fresh ingrediants, the phenomenal taste and texture, the truly home style atmosphere (if your mom was a great cook and really crappy decorator!) It was my favorite downhome restaurant. But that is past tense. Present tense it is Tam Tam on Ohlen Road behind the Target (not beside, behind). Their pho is great, their bun is great--I get bun with egg roll and charcoal pork, extra crispy on the pork and it is close to Fortune Pho, not even, but close, and it also has that dump feeling that I like in a resturant that gives you more than you can eat for under $6.00!!!!!
That place at Ohlen and Peyton Gin (aka Payton Gin) is now called Tan My. I certainly have not come close to trying every pho shop in Austin, but I've tried at least a dozen, and Tan My is my favorite followed pretty closely by Pho Hoang at Rutland and Burnet Rd. The broths at these two places are outstanding.
re: Jim Washburn
Ok, I've got to put in my two cents on pho. My mom's Vietnamese and we immigrated over when I was really young. I grew up on the stuff.
And the place that I've found has the most authentic pho and is even better than my mom's is the Pho Saigon next door to Saigon Market. The servers don't speak English that well so just stick to ordering by the number on the menu and they won't get it wrong. My friends who I introduced it to says the the broth is slightly better than Tan My. One friend does find the brisket too fatty for his taste at Pho Saigon but that's a matter of preference. I personally love fatty brisket. They do say that the service is better at Tan My but Pho Saigon has my money because they make a lot of the stuff I grew up with. And I don't have to make the trip to Houston and hear the constant nagging on when I'm getting married.
Since moving down South, I've tried Pho Thai Son and I will never go back. The broth tastes just like the broth at Mekong River, bland and barely acceptable. I've been forced to make a lot of trips up North to get my Vietnamese food fix on.
Pho...has to be my favorite lunch. I get Pho on the brain and find myself at times eating it for lunch every day of the work week. My boyfriend introduced me to Pho and we use to go the Pho place off the drag. I didn’t know any better, so I thought it was great. Then I stumbled across Pho Saigon in the Chinatown Center (not to be confused with the one next to the Pho Saigon market). It is in my opinion the best Pho around. My boyfriend has taken several Pho aficionados there and they reluctantly agreed, (everyone has their favorite spot). I encourage everyone to try it at least once.
BTW, I have had really good steaks at Eddie V's. I am also a firm believer that you do not have to go to a steak house to have a nice steak.
I have also had good luck with steaks at Eddie V's. I went in August to the north location and they had a special of a bone in, prime, 30 day dry aged new york strip that was the best steak I've ever had in Austin and one of the best steaks I've had anywhere. It was expensive at $60 but worth the price. Unfortunately, the brabant potatoes were like potatoes poached in grease, with no crust whatsoever.