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fletcr Jul 13, 2007 08:01 AM

Hello everyone,

I am getting married in September and am looking for a hall in Northern New Jersey and welcome any recommendations. We expect 100 - 120 people, it will be on a Saturday and we want to have the ceremony at the hall. Food will be traditional American - Italian, prime rib, etc. I know the quality of the food and service varies widely from banquet hall to banquet hall, so I appreciate any and all comments.

Thanks, Rich

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    lucienne78 Jul 13, 2007 09:18 AM

    Hi,
    I got married at Westmount Country Club in Great Notch (right next to Wayne) 3 years ago. To this day, everyone tells me that it is the best food they have ever had at a wedding. The facility is gorgeous as well. It's very pricey, though. I think it cost $240.00 per person and we had 250 people, so might be more expensive per person for your count.

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      npappy Jan 24, 2008 11:04 AM

      The Food is Good but the Service is Rude and Uncalled for - they treat you like second rate, and also Treat the vendors even worse. This is only since they renovated the place - before that they were amazing. It really is ashame, because the location and food does amaze - but since weddings are an customer service industry - that is just bad all around.

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        NJfoodLover Jun 10, 2008 06:00 PM

        npappy - I agree with completely. I hosted a charity event there and looked at the hall with my friend for her wedding and both time the staff was rude and unproffessional. Some of my vendors at the charity event complained about the way their treated as well.
        I refused to even look there for my wedding.

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      theatmosphere Jul 13, 2007 09:48 AM

      We were married at the Rockleigh, which is about as northern NJ as you can get, just over the NY state line. It was divine. Everything is top notch, I would highly recommend it. This was, however, several years ago already so perhaps someone can give you an update.

      If you're getting married in September, and on a Saturday, I fear you will find that finding any place to accommodate you will be your biggest challenge. Most good places will be booked solid already.

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      Rockleigh Country Club
      26 Paris Ave, Northvale, NJ 07647

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        Sra. Swanky Jul 13, 2007 10:04 AM

        My cousin's wedding was at Rockleigh Country Club (in 2002), and I couldn't agree more! Terrific food, beautiful atmosphere. I'm sure Rockleigh has kept everything going since then.

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          bgut1 Jul 17, 2007 06:36 PM

          Another vote for Rockleigh. I was married there in 2000 and to this day my co-workers and friends exclaim that it was the best wedding food they have ever had bar none.

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        njeggy1 Jul 13, 2007 10:39 AM

        I've heard very good things about the Valley Regency. http://www.valleyregency.com/

        1. OffTheBroiler Jul 15, 2007 05:46 PM

          We went to a very, very nice wedding with particularly good food and a beautiful setting this afternoon at Westmount Country Club

          http://www.westmountcc.com/

          My own wedding in 1995 was at Brooklake country club in florham park, which is still an excellent venue.

          The Madison Hotel also has a very nice catering operation and a gorgeous glass arboreum.

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            npappy Jan 24, 2008 11:06 AM

            Madison Hotel is very nice, West mount is a thumbs down on Service as well as the Brownstone House - in The Ghetto, and my lights were stolen from my car while parked there and the staff threatened to beat us down if we reported it. Plus they over book and and have guests in your room during your event..bad.

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            bropaul Jul 17, 2007 06:38 PM

            I second the Madison Hotel in Convent Station. Excellent food and a beautiful setting.

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              ELA Jul 17, 2007 10:26 PM

              Crystal Plaza and Rockleigh Country Club.

              1. BiggieB Jul 20, 2007 09:47 AM

                Hands down Perona Farms! I got married in 1991 and people are STILL talking about how awesome this place was for our reception!!

                http://www.peronafarms.com/

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                  njkori Dec 13, 2010 08:51 AM

                  Perona Farms has my vote too! We got married in October 2008, with a beautiful outdoor cocktail hour (smoked salmon is their specialty) and an indoor sit-down dinner. People are still raving over the food, and the staff was fabulous. And none of that big city sticker shock, either. For a fall wedding, this place cannot be beat!

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                  Perona Farms
                  350 Andover Sparta Rd, Andover, NJ 07821

                2. NiKoLe1625 Jul 20, 2007 02:56 PM

                  Crystal Plaza in Livingston is awesome. Pleasantdale Chateau in West Orange (although they are somewhat expensive). The Brownstone in Paterson is great even though Paterson is not the best area. They have really good food. I also recommend the Brooklake Country Club in Florham Park. Its a really nice place with a great value.

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                    npappy Jan 24, 2008 11:07 AM

                    Brownstone - Good food - Cheap - But Horrible Service and Area- Service should be number 1 for everyone - then food.. They actually ruin many events per year, and don't care about us as a client

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                    mc0218 Jul 22, 2007 07:35 AM

                    Definitely call The Chanticler in Short Hills. We were married there and couldn't have been happier. Food and service were very important to us, and both were excellent there. We are itching to go to a wedding there as guests so we can relax and enjoy more of the food!

                    http://www.thechanticler.com/

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                      JMJD Jul 22, 2007 05:35 PM

                      Having made the tour of catering halls in NJ a few times recently, I can say that it depends a lot on price and date availability if you mean this September. Rockleigh is supposed to be wonderful, though it's expensive. For a less pricey option (but tons of food) you might check out Seasons in Washington Township -- the food seems like too much for the price if you compare it to a place like Rockleigh, but someone I know recently attended a wedding there and said the food was good.

                      Westmont recently changed its format -- they used to offer packages/prices similar to Rockleigh, but when I went to check it out with a friend recently they had made the standard menu less fancy and then offered a lot of "upgrades." They had food available to sample when I went, but they might not do that now because they likely have weddings every afternoon/evening.

                      Other options on the high-priced end would be Tappan Hill in Tarrytown (Westchester) or Florentine Gardens.

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                        npappy Jan 24, 2008 11:11 AM

                        See the Westmount has changed a lot - they only care about selling you upgrades and Service is way down....They actually told us as a client no they wouldn't shut their DJ Lights off during our event - so we had strobing lights during the entire event and slow dances - it ruined the atmosphere - they have no idea how to run an event there.....Also be ware they tried to cancel my friend who was throwing a prom there because they could book a more expensive wedding - which in turn they could sell alcohol at!!! She called shame on you and told them - they suddenly changed their minds and honored her contract.

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                        chowinsight Aug 7, 2007 03:01 PM

                        Rockleigh is not all it's cracked up to be. Sure it looks nice, but it doesn't offer what they charge. They make it look all high end, but that's not the service it provides. I went to check it out during the winter and they showed me the place during someone's wedding...so, I was walking around in my oversized puffy down coat while the Jewish guests were praying. I don't know about you, but I'd be pretty pissed off if strangers were walking through my wedding, not to mention totally dressed down. In addition, somebody had dropped a pile of food on the floor and instead of the workers cleaning it up immediately a chair was placed on top of it for a while. The mess was still there when I left my appt. You'll get the WOW effect upon arriving at Rockleigh, but for a beautiful place with top notch service I recommend Florentine Gardens. I had my wedding there and was blown away by the excellent quality of service. Not to mention that the whole place is yours during the wedding (your guests will not be colliding with guests from a different wedding party). You'll def get what you pay for and more.

                        Rockleigh is way overrated and not for someone with a discerning eye.

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                          Shayna Madel Oct 10, 2007 11:30 AM

                          I know this is after the fact of the OP's proposed wedding date, but I just saw this post and could not not respond sooner.

                          I am happy that chowinsight had a great experience where he/she got married. That said, my niece's bat mitzvah reception was at the Rockleigh Country Club in 2004. The food tasted great and was far more creative and beautifully presented than in most catering places and high-end temple banquet halls that I have been in in either New Jersey, Manhattan, Long Island or Westchester. I found no fault with the service, nor did any of my relatives. Though the location's website indicates that there are two banquet halls, it also says that there are two separate entrances and I can tell you that when we entered the facility, I saw no signs of a second party being run at the same time, so if there was one, they hid it well. There were no "collisions" with guests from another party. This is NOT a factory.

                          As for chowinsight's experience, all I can say is that perhaps things have changed recently or there was a problem on the day he/she visited the place. As for food on the floor being covered with a chair, that's a safety precaution. And if it happened while the food was being brought to the tables, I would rather see a chair over some spilled food for a little while than have guests waiting for their food while a mop and pail were being dragged out into the middle of the room. As for looking at a place, I would probably insist that I be able to see the place while a party was going on, as I guess chowinsight did, but I can't imagine what chowinsight was doing strolling through a religious service rather than just peeing in the door for a moment.

                          Lest someone think that I am defending this place because the venue was selected by a relative, that's not the case. The place was selected by an ex-sister-in-law who I have very little use for, but despite my personal opinion of her, has excellent taste and knows how to make a beautiful, tasty party.

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                          FoodieForAll Oct 10, 2007 11:36 AM

                          My sister got married in June at Liberty House at Liberty State Park. The ceremony and reception were outside while dinner was inside. The views of Lower Manhattan and the Statue of Liberty are unbeatable. The staff was wonderful, knowledgable and so attentive and the food was out of this world. It lived up to what we had at the tasting.
                          www.libertyhouserestaurant.com

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                            pdgirl Dec 18, 2007 03:09 PM

                            Oshingurl - do you have an idea what she paid per head?

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                            sruperto Dec 18, 2007 05:09 PM

                            IMHO the food and setting at the Pleasantdale Chateau cannot be beat.

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                              Jtaibi Dec 20, 2007 07:39 AM

                              My husband and I had our reception 5 years ago at Bretton Woods in Morris Plains.The food was very good, the price was exceedingly fair, the service was excellent.For me, the real plus was the fact that they only host one party at a time. I simply didn't want to run into another bride in the hallway. Also, there are beautiful wooded gardens that can be used for a ceremony or for photos.In the fall it would be lovely!
                              The manager, Joe Gatti, was the picture of competence and made us both feel that we were cosseted and cared for without being patronized. I cannot reccomend this gem of a mansion highly enough!

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                                npappy Jan 24, 2008 11:16 AM

                                A very nice Venue i have been there several times and it is Great!

                              2. southernitalian Dec 20, 2007 07:41 AM

                                Check out the Clinton Inn in Tenafly. I've been to a few weddings there. It's really pretty and you can rent rooms and stay overnight in the Honeymoon Suite. There's a park across the street for pictures.

                                1. kimie Dec 21, 2007 07:28 PM

                                  I got married in 2005 and we used the Venetian in Garfield. It was really amazing. Matter of fact, it was over the top as far as the food was concerned. Everyone loved it. There have been some suggestions for Seasons in Washington Twp on this post--and there are a few owners in common between the Venetian and Seasons. I've been to a Seasons wedding, and I have to say, it was good--but the food at the Venetian was much better.

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                                    npappy Jan 24, 2008 11:18 AM

                                    I agree i have been to both Seasons and I had my wedding at the Venetian and they really put the Customer Service in overdrive, plus the food is unbeatable!
                                    Some Guests arrived late so they extended cocktail hour and the Venetian hour Desserts were to die for!
                                    A+++++

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                                      simona83 Jan 28, 2008 08:33 AM

                                      i'm getting married june 2009 we went to look at the venetian yesterday the price was a little bit high but the place is to die for!!!
                                      i love it and i want to book it i have a big italian family that cares alot about the food so the food and quality is key i cant go wrong i dont know anyone who had a party there so i was hoping on feed back what did everyone think

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                                        fourunder Jan 30, 2008 07:37 AM

                                        In my early years, I managed Country Clubs and was in the catering business. I was at both Tamcrest and Tammy Brook Country Clubs, both in Bergen County and considered "The Place" to have a party. When I left Tamcrest, we were fully booked on weekends four years in advance for prime seasons of wedding and Bar/Bat Mitzvahs. In later years, Rockleigh adopted the same formats......due to the GM brought in who was employed or had partial ownership at both places prior mentioned......

                                        From a professional position and as a guest at four parties over the years, I suggest you consider Florentine Gardens in River Vale which recently had a new renovation and was enlarged......for a more intimate smaller party, you may want to consider Madeline's Petit Paris in Norwood.

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                                          inthebus Dec 12, 2010 12:25 PM

                                          u were a manager at tammy brook who r u

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                                      npappy Jan 24, 2008 11:19 AM

                                      Top Halls in my Opinion in North Jersey
                                      Venetian, Macalusos, Valley Regency

                                      both in Food and Service!

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                                        GreekGddss Jan 25, 2008 12:34 PM

                                        I attended a wedding at the Florentine Gardens and it was beautiful, great service, and wonderful (& bountiful) food. I'm not sure about the price per person, but I was definitely one happy, satisfied wedding guest, if that counts for anything!

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                                        topme Jan 29, 2008 06:30 PM

                                        Hi,got to add Naninas In The Park to the top list.My niece got married there in July,it was unbelievible !Very exclusive,great setting,food and service outstanding.

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                                          skepner169 Jan 30, 2008 02:41 PM

                                          The Rockleigh is certainly top notch. It is elegant and a picture perfect spot for a wedding. I've been to one wedding there several years ago and the food and the facilities were fantastic. The downside is that there are two events that can happen on the same night. While they do an excellent job of keeping both parties separate there can be some overlap if you are using the outside patios and gardens.
                                          If you are willing to travel about 7-10 minutes further north to Pearl River, in NY, definitely try the Hilton Pearl River. I had my wedding there this past August and it was spectacular. The Hilton's facilities were beautiful, the food was outrageous. Almost six months later everyone is still talking about what an incredible job they did. If you go, ask for Paulette. She's top notch!

                                          www.hermanweb.us

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                                            fivecomps Nov 19, 2010 06:28 AM

                                            My daughter is struggling with a decision to have her wedding either at the Valley Regency or at Nanina's. What are your thoughts? We haven't been to any events at the Valley Regency, and the one time we went to Nanina's was years ago before any thoughts of possibly holding an event there. I don't remember much other than it was a beautiful venue. Anything you can share with us would be very helpful. Thank you.

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                                              GinGin Nov 24, 2010 07:44 AM

                                              We went to a wedding at Valley Regency 5-6 years ago and loved it. The bride was thrilled with the way they handled her wedding as well. We held our reception at Knoll Country Club in Parsippany and could not have been happier with everything there. Everyone raved about the food and venue, and their prices were surprisingly reasonable. This was 4 years ago, but it's worth a look. If your daughter is still looking at venues, I highly recommend she look at the Knoll!

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                                                fourunder Nov 24, 2010 08:01 AM

                                                The catering company presently at The Knoll Country Club replaced the catering company from four years ago, this past year.......the present catering company was the past operator, that was replaced by the catering company you enjoyed(Kip).....for what it's worth, most of the staff remained with the new operator.

                                                The replaced partnership separated to two different locations. One is at Frank's Waterside in Edgewater and the other is at The Architects Golf Club in Lopatcong.

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                                            RPMcMurphy Jun 10, 2008 12:53 PM

                                            I'd like to add, I went to a wedding at Seasons up in north jersey this past weekend. I am a guy. I HATE weddings, I HATE wedding food, I HATE the concept of a wedding period.

                                            But the cocktail hour at Seasons, was by far..........the best. Period. Everything from a vodka caviar station to a "cheeseburger" slider station...I worked (ate) my way around and everything wasn't just "good" but it was better than just "eh, its good.....for wedding food"

                                            the main course when we got inside the actual wedding was Good....for wedding food...but I have to hand it to them, they did cook my meat to medium rare,, which I NEVER get done right even when I dine out at a restaurant they always overcook it.

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                                              NJfoodLover Jun 10, 2008 06:11 PM

                                              I am surprised no one has mentioned The Graycliff in Moonachie. I have been to a number of events there. It was not just weddings and everytime was out of this world. I would rank them up there with the Venetian and Seasons as for as food but it is a less pricey option.
                                              I love the Venetian's look. It is soo beautiful but it can be very expensive. If you have the budget it is worth looking at otherwise the Graycliff can't be beat.

                                              As for Rockleigh CC I have been to 4 weddings and 2 other events and every other time is amazing unfortunately the other times It was the opposite. A few co workers have said the same thing.

                                              I mentioned above how horrible the Westmont CC is to work with, even though the end result is beautiful it is not worth giving them your money.

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                                                FriedBanana Jun 16, 2008 07:46 AM

                                                I've recently went to an affair at the Graycliff and agree.

                                                Any thoughts on Frank Pombo's Bethwood?

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                                                  NJfoodLover Jun 17, 2008 06:21 AM

                                                  The Bethwood is ok for special events but not the greatest for weddings. They have so many events going on at the same time that you are running into people going from Cocktail hour to your reception.
                                                  I have been to showers, birthday parties, anniversary parties and things like that which were nice. For a wedding you can find better in that price range.

                                                  They have a GREAT Sunday brunch though.

                                              2. njfoodies Jun 17, 2008 12:12 PM

                                                We had our wedding at Tavistock Country Club in the Haddonfield area and it was gorgeous, and the food was to die for. I would highly recommend them! -mJ

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                                                  jeannette831 Jul 1, 2008 10:24 PM

                                                  The Richfield Regency in Verona is OUTSTANDING..I had my wedding there 5 years ago and people till this day talk about the food and service at my wedding.. Also they packed up the left over cocktail hour food and gave us 2 huge shopping bags filled with food! Also our guest had an option to have seconds for the main course if they desired to.. Raul hopefully is still there.. is the BEST .. and takes care of you big time.. If you decide to book there.. You won't regret it!

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                                                    gumzatov Aug 9, 2009 07:53 PM

                                                    I got married at the Atrium Country Club in July. They had just renovated the place and the cocktail hour was great. We had the seafood bar with martini stations and ice carvings with lamb chops and snow crab legs. and the Viennese table was in their garden patio with hand rolled cigar bar. the price was in the range of $120 per person. Best of luck to you.

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                                                      NJfoodLover Aug 10, 2009 06:47 AM

                                                      Since this post has been bumped and it has been over a year since my last comments I will add the most recent experiences. I have attened 3 weddings, 2 baptisms and a large anniversary party in the past year - 2 were in NY. If I add this years and previous experiences together, my top votes for Catering Halls in North Jersey are:
                                                      The Venetian
                                                      Seasons
                                                      Graycliff
                                                      The Venetian is absolutely amazing - Beautifully done with fabulous food and Service. The new Grand Ballroom is out of this world.
                                                      Seasons is very pretty in a more classic less mind blowing way. The food and service are also very good.
                                                      The Graycliff keeps impressing me with Food and Service and the Interior is beautiful. They are my vote for the the best place for your money since they are less than Seasons and MUCH less then the Venetian. If money isn't an issue than the Venetian is the way to go.

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                                                        mrrobbiej Jan 27, 2010 05:11 PM

                                                        Il Villagio in Carlstadt, NJ Has anyone ever had a wedding reception at this Venue? we are looking into booking this place, and have been unable to find any reviews.... Any feedback would be great! Thanks

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                                                          mcjays Feb 23, 2011 04:45 PM

                                                          I went to a wedding at Il Villaggio in November. The cocktail hour was great (except for the fresh mozzarella) - they even had a suckling pig. Dinner was pretty good and they went all out for the Viennese room.

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                                                          State Route 10, Parsippany, NJ 07054

                                                      2. white devil Jun 15, 2010 02:39 AM

                                                        Just had my wedding reception at the Paris Inn Restaurant. My wife and I couldn't have been more satisfied with what we got with our wedding package. They recently remodeled too and I was there about a year ago on a Friday night, and they had the best piano player at the bar signing Sinatra. They do Italian and Continental cuisine, and were very reasonable. I think we paid something like $60 bucks per person.

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                                                        1292 Alps Rd, Wayne, NJ 07470

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                                                          cherib Jun 22, 2010 10:27 AM

                                                          We made a wedding 8 years ago at The Park Savoy in Florham Park. Since then others who had been to my son's wedding have also used the facility. The grounds are beautiful, food magnificent and you're treated like royalty. They were wed in a beautiful garden with a reception inside a renovated mansion. We put pictures of family and friends all over as if it was our home. Check it out. MY kids wanted elegant, but not glitzy so they nixed the Rockleigh and SHort Hills. etc

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                                                            NJfoodLover Jun 23, 2010 07:42 AM

                                                            The last year has been the year of weddings. We have attended 5. IL Tulipano, Venetian (2 times), Seasons and Richfield Regency in Verona.

                                                            I can start by saying that the Venetian completely blew me away. Both weddings were in the new Grand Ballroom. It is soo amazing and beautiful. There is this great ourside terrace with bars and waterfalls. The food was amazing all the way from Cocktail hour through the Ventian Hour. I will say that for the price you better be blown away. It has gotten so expensive. The one couple paid $275 a plate for a Sunday wedding.

                                                            Seasons was very good as well, they do a very nice job on all their events. It is a milder decor and presentation from their other hall but the sevice is just as wonderful and the food tastes as good but doesn't seem to have as many options.

                                                            IL Tulipano had great food and the staff seemed on top of things. The place is very pretty and it is nice to be the only wedding going on. The only negative I saw was they break cocktail hour into 2 rooms one on the 1st floor and one on the second but don't offer the all the same things in both places. Some guest missed out on som options.

                                                            Richfield Regency was ok looking but nothing too fancy. The food and staff was the place's biggest downfall. I don't know what they charge but I hope it is a low cost place to get married otherwise this couple got completely ripped off. The food was bland with very basic options. The staff was rude and not very helpful.

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                                                            1131 State Highway 23 N, Cedar Grove, NJ 07009

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                                                              mcannici Jun 23, 2010 09:38 PM

                                                              Any thoughts on the Stone House at Stirling Ridge? Venue and menu look gorgeous, but would love to see the opinion of anyone who has attended a wedding there recently. I don't know anyone with any experiences there.

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                                                              50 Stirling Road, Warren, NJ 07059

                                                              1. Tapas52 Jun 24, 2010 07:49 PM

                                                                My vote is The Brownstone

                                                                http://www.thebrownstone.com/

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                                                                  cherib Aug 19, 2010 06:42 PM

                                                                  We hosted a wedding at the Park Savoy in Florham Park. The place is elegant, the food amazing and the waitstaff professional. Many of my guests said the food was the best they've ever had at an affair. The ceremony and cocktail hour were outdoors in a beautiful setting. There are glitzy expensive places in Northern NJ, but none have the sophistication of The Park Savoy

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                                                                    supafhlyblt Nov 19, 2010 08:46 AM

                                                                    I got married over the summer on the Jersey shore. My wife and I found Shore Catering, they helped us find a great location and get the menu nailed down within our budget. The service was incredible, Patty helped us get everything in place. They took care of the rehearsal dinner as well as our reception on the beach. We could not have found anyone better

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                                                                    245 Drum Point Rd, Brick, NJ 08723

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                                                                      bifpocaroba Dec 13, 2010 07:40 AM

                                                                      Richfield Regency in Verona is pretty good.

                                                                      The Brownstone is always consistently good.

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                                                                        gwh912 Feb 24, 2011 02:02 AM

                                                                        We got married at Crystal Springs Grand Cascades lodge - the venue is beautiful, the food outstanding during the meal and cocktail hour, and you can also have your rehearsal dinner at Latour or in their wine cellar (the latter was incredible)

                                                                        It is pricey however - I believe we spent around 250 a head after all upgrades...

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