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UES Mayor Jul 12, 2007 04:07 AM

None were open last Christmas and planning my winter get away. If u have been to any please describe your food and atmosphere experience. Mahalo from your humble NYC UES mayor. Lucky u live Hawaii!

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  1. Bill Hunt RE: UES Mayor Jul 14, 2007 11:24 AM

    UES Mayor,

    I'm not familiar with the term "Beachwalk." Maybe it's a name that the locals have for someplace that I thought differently of. Can you define it for me, as we dine all over Hawai`i, and maybe I just know the area by another moniker?

    Hunt

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      UES Mayor RE: Bill Hunt Jul 14, 2007 01:31 PM

      Bill,

      You MUST get out more often! Beachwalk is the area where Lewers closed down and a whole new mall was built. Even your humble UES Mayor from NYC stays current with da local news.Now go eat and let me know-I am coming back for vacation in Dec. and expect a full report!
      http://gohawaii.about.com/library/wee...

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        Bill Hunt RE: UES Mayor Jul 14, 2007 08:14 PM

        Wow, just there in October, and didn't pick up on this. Stayed just a few blocks away, and dined up and down that area. I knew that some beach reclaiming and seawall building was taking place, but no one mentioned Beachwalk. I did see the construction across from the Halekalani, but did not know what was going in - just thought it was another resort or condo project.

        Now that I've got the geography down, what are you looking for in the way of cuisine and $? We've done a lot of the higher-end spots in the neighborhood, though it's been decades since we did, say Lewer St Fishmarket, etc. Maybe I can help, or maybe not.

        For that trip report, see: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/334698. First half is Kaua`i and Northshore, then we get to Honolulu at the end.

        Thanks for the info update. Will probably be back in Oct/Nov, and now, I can talk like a local, with regards to Beachwalk!

        Hunt

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          UES Mayor RE: Bill Hunt Jul 15, 2007 07:04 AM

          good site for beachwalk progress
          http://www.waikikibeachwalk.com/webca...

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            UES Mayor RE: Bill Hunt Jul 19, 2007 04:01 AM

            money is no object when it comes to food with the UES Mayor-i have a pension. I will pay ANY price for great food.It doesn't have to be gourmet-just rock solid delicious -da kine dat brokes da mouth.

      2. KaimukiMan RE: UES Mayor Jul 18, 2007 12:58 PM

        Lewers and Beachwalk are both streets that run parallel to each other perpendicular to Kalakaua on the ewa (west) side of the Sheraton/Royal Hawaiian property. For generations tourists have wandered Waikiki looking for the beachwalk - to no avail.

        The entire area recently underwent a major overhaul, almost all the buildings between Beachwalk and Lewers were demo'd, and MOST of the reconstruction is finished now. This went hand in hand with a major overhaul of the Royal Hawaiian Shopping center, which is also largely back together.

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          Bill Hunt RE: KaimukiMan Jul 18, 2007 08:15 PM

          Dang, other than a few cranes, I missed this reconstruction, when we were there in Oct. I'll be looking forward to the project, when were are back this year.

          I knew that some beach reclamation was taking place, but did not know the scope of the project. We walked the beach, from the Hilton to many of the restaurants, where we could, but had to detour, due to errosion. Sounds great!

          As to the restaurants along that path, most of my reviews were of the Halekulani property, and the rest were either at the Hilton, or King Street.

          I hope that some of the restaurants will be improved along that area, as many were 99% tourist-oriented, and lower-mid-level, at best. We did Lewer's St. Fish Market (maybe be Lewer's St Seafood), some years back, and were horribly disappointed. Too many great restaurants in Waikiki to eat bad food.

          Hope others chime in with more recent reviews.

          Hunt

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            Eat_Nopal RE: Bill Hunt Jul 22, 2007 06:38 PM

            Waikiki has great restaurants??? Please illuminate me I would love to find them!

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              Bill Hunt RE: Eat_Nopal Jul 23, 2007 06:49 PM

              Waikiki and its near-by environs, have some wonderful spots. Take a look at my reviews, mentioned above. Now, I do seem to have differences on one, with a respected board contributor and his friends, but have had many world-class meals at several.

              I'm so pleased with many of these, that I always include 5 days, or more, in Honolulu, regardless of which island(s) we are traveling to. Maybe it's just MY palate, though I dine at starred restaurants around the globe, so obviously some others agree with my tastes.

              What did you find that was not good? Sounds like there were far too many, that you condem an entire area.

              Hunt

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                torta basilica RE: Bill Hunt Jul 24, 2007 08:42 AM

                Bill,

                I totally respect your taste and recommendations. I think the only place we've disagreed on is La Mer, and I admit that was based on only one experience (but, at those prices, I'll never get my husband back...). Other than that, what restaurants Waikiki proper to you think are great? There are many outside of Waikiki, and I feel HNL is a great restaurant city, but within Waikiki, I'm stymied. We're there all the time (husband is there as we speak), so would LOVE to find a great restaurant within walking distance of the Hyatt.

                Mahalo!

                Torta

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                  Bill Hunt RE: torta basilica Jul 25, 2007 05:31 PM

                  Well, there is THAT place, and Bali by the Sea, that I have found to be excellent, or, depending on the night, just below that. I count Aaron's Atop the Ala Moana (though technically it is Ewa of the true Waikiki) as being in the group. I've also had great meals at the Hau Tree Lanai (San Souci, but still in Waikiki, by most standards). As we walk from the beach, I'd put the two top spots on King St. on the list, as well. Normally, we walk about as far as "Restaurant Row," but I am not a fan of anything that I have had there, and have walked to Hau Tree several times. OK, they (AW's & Chef Mavro's) are mauka of the Canal, so maybe I can't count them. One of the best meals, that I have had in Hawai`i, was at the Shorebird Grill (Outrigger Reef?). It was obviously NOT fine-dining, and was probably the cheapest meal, excluding breakfast, that I have had in the Islands. One two other occasions, it was just OK, so I cannot count that one spectacular repast. If one wants to get critical of the geography, and set Waikiki as bordered by the Ala Wai Canal to, say Kapiolani Park, then I'm only going to have two: La Mer (Halekulani) and Bali by the Sea (Hilton Hawaiian Village). However, those two fare well against most of the fine dining that I do on three continents.

                  I do not hold a bad meal/experience against you. I had one decades ago at Bali, and it took 15 years for me to go back. Then the wife insisted on it, and I do not regret the opportunity to try them again. Over the last five years, they have hit on all cylinders. As fate would have it, my last visit to La Mer, while good, was not up to what I have come to expect. I'll still be back next Nov, but now I'll be watching them closely.

                  I've also been hearing really good things about the Italian restaurant atop the Ilikai from some foodie insiders - unfortunately, the name is eluding me. I dined there in the '80s and was not impressed, but my friends tell me that I must go back and try them now - new name, new chef and really good food.

                  Hunt

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                    torta basilica RE: Bill Hunt Jul 25, 2007 06:53 PM

                    I am determined to get to Bali - my husband has an abhorrance of anything related to HHV, but I'm going to drag him there if it kills me. I've been right about most everything else :)

                    Let me know if you hear more about the Italian - he's over there now & might be interested. Sent him to check out that NY Deli on Beachwalk too... Maybe I can get him to try the Kuhio shrimp truck ;-)

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                      Bill Hunt RE: torta basilica Jul 31, 2007 09:16 AM

                      I did a few searches, and came up empty! Dang, I hate when that happens. I'll e-mail my "contacts," and hope that they can refresh my feeble memory - a "mind is such a terrible thing to waste... "

                      Hunt

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                        Bill Hunt RE: Bill Hunt Jul 31, 2007 09:26 AM

                        Hey, just checked my e-mail and the restaurant is Sarento's Top of the I. I have not been in many years, and iterations, so this is all second-hand, but I trust and respect this lady's choices. She says that they are firing on all cylinders now. It's just Ewa of the HHV.

                        I understand your hubby's reservations on all things HHV. I have millions of Hilton points, so I cannot resist staying there. Of all of the food spots, the Bali is the only one that I will do, of my own volition. All the rest are pretty poor examples of tourist fare, unless there have been some new additions. Also, it would easy to sneak a new good restaurant into that area, and for me to just miss it, because of all of the failed dining forays - you know, when you are too tired to leave the property, because you flew all day, etc., etc., but I have yet to find a meal, that would not have been better off-site (except for the Bali).

                        Good luck, and let us know how you liked it.

                        Aloha,
                        Hunt

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                  Eat_Nopal RE: Bill Hunt Jul 24, 2007 08:48 AM

                  Not doubting your taste at all... I am just hoping you can identify some of these so that I can have a great world class meal.

                  Mahalo

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                    Yoshio RE: Eat_Nopal Jul 24, 2007 04:30 PM

                    Have you been to Bali by the Sea recently? The young chef over there (Adam Hightower) has really upgraded the food offerings. The decor is somewhat dated, but you can't beat the oceanfront setting and the service is excellent. It's the food though that makes it well worth a visit. Not at all like a hotel restaurant.

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                      Eat_Nopal RE: Yoshio Jul 24, 2007 10:00 PM

                      Never been.... what hotel is it?

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                        Yoshio RE: Eat_Nopal Jul 24, 2007 10:19 PM

                        Sorry about that! It is in the Hilton Hawaiian Village.

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            torta basilica RE: UES Mayor Jul 18, 2007 11:50 PM

            Isn't the new Roy's open?

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              Yoshio RE: torta basilica Jul 19, 2007 09:55 AM

              Yes, the new Roy's Waikiki is open at Beach Walk as is the latest Ruth's Chris, Yard House and Holokai Grill (same folks who own Tiki's Grill & Bar). The Roy's is open for lunch and dinner and has a small sushi counter. The Roy's is definitely worth trying. I am less fond of Yard House though beer mavens will like the wide selection of on-tap brews. Holokai Grill was below average on our single visit there and I wouldn't go back with so many other good choices out there. And, the new Nobu Waikiki is just down the street - bring bags of money!

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                Debbie M RE: Yoshio Jul 19, 2007 10:58 AM

                I checked out Beach Walk in June, but didn't try any of the restaurants (although I did have a fair pineapple gelato). However, by peeking at menus, it looks like Roy's would be the best of the bunch.

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                  manomin RE: Debbie M Jul 20, 2007 02:30 PM

                  I'm going for a late lunch tomorrow at Roy's and I'll report back!

            2. Eat_Nopal RE: UES Mayor Jul 22, 2007 06:37 PM

              2 Cents....

              Roy's is nothign to talk about. I don't know what all the fuss is with Nobu other than you can get to spend a lot of money. No real high end places around Beachwalk that I can spot other than overpriced mediocre chains like Ruth's Chris. But there are some enjoyable bites like Beard Papa's & Mondo Gelato.

              Attached to the Breakers hotel.... is Sushi Koh which I really enjoyed... but it is just straight up traditional Sushi for Japanese tourists.

              Also a couple of doors down from the Wyland gallery is a health food store with tastey smoothies & vegetarian sandwiches.

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                Bill Hunt RE: Eat_Nopal Jul 23, 2007 06:53 PM

                Hm-m, sounds like mostly higher-end chains. I'm with you on most Roy's. Some are better, than others, depending on the exec. chef, but they are just OK. Same for Ruth's Chris Steakhouses. I can eat at one of three, where I live, and many more, where I travel. My question would be, why? It's OK, but nothing to get excited about. I add Morton's and that type of spot to the group, though I would probably choose Ruth's, over Morton's, if I had no other choice.

                I hope that some chef-driven spots will open and make it there. I am looking forward to exploring this area, as it will be new to me - a place that I used to know, but seems to have undergone redevelopment.

                Hunt

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