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Hell's Kitchen July 9th

RBCal Jul 10, 2007 08:07 AM

I'm almost embarassed that I continue to watch this show. It is only about drama, ratings and self-promotion of Gordon Ramsey. The lobster challenge was definitely not won by the red team. Ramsey only wanted to pose with attractive women for the magazine photo shoot and not a bunch of ugly guys.

  1. sivyaleah Jul 10, 2007 08:55 AM

    I have to agree (oh and I'm equally embarassed that I continue to watch it, but there is nothing else on at that hour - although I could always just turn off the TV I guess...). Somehow, I just don't think the guys would have made as nice a Charlie's Angels photo op :-)

    And that was just heinous to send Rock over there to p/u the trash. Talk about throwing fuel on the fire!

    1. Chinon00 Jul 10, 2007 08:56 AM

      I watched some of this show for the first time last night. In between the cursing and yelling and the "yes chef" and "no chef" I can't say that I learned anything about cooking or food in general from the show. At least on Top Chef I got some new ideas for cooking as well as dining. Maybe I missed that part?

      1 Reply
      1. re: Chinon00
        NewSushiFiend Jul 10, 2007 01:58 PM

        It is purely about the drama of the competition. You won't learn anything from the show.

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        ozhead Jul 10, 2007 08:58 AM

        1. If it embarasses you to watch, then -- don't watch.

        2. OF COURSE it's about drama, ratings, and Ramsey's self-promotion. What is ANY television show for? Esthetics?

        3. The worst episode of H.K. is better than the best episode of anything containing Emeril Legasse. Talk about drama, ratings, and self-promotion!

        1. C. Hamster Jul 10, 2007 09:06 AM

          Does anyone alse think that Melissa looked strung out on crystal meth or something?

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          1. re: C. Hamster
            nieves Jul 10, 2007 09:11 AM

            I think that Melissa has been looking worse and worse as we go. Last week, I kept thinking that I wouldn't eat anything made by someone with long stringy hair hanging all over, for most of the show she didn't even have it tied back. I admit I didn't see last night's show, but she really turns me off. Almost as bad as taking pasta out of the garbage bin to serve to a client.

            1. re: nieves
              sivyaleah Jul 10, 2007 09:18 AM

              I kept wondering why she isn't wearing something to tie back her hair. Isn't that a requirement in a professional kitchen? I know when I cook, my husband occassionally finds strands of mine wandering into the food, and mine isn't nearly as long as hers.

            2. re: C. Hamster
              LindaWhit Jul 10, 2007 09:24 AM

              Agreed - and what's with the little soul patch Melissa seems to have developed over the last few episodes? LOL Did she have some kind of an accident we never heard about?

              Rock's over-reaction over losing the challenge was WAY over the top, IMO. Yeah - OK - it sucks that you lost. But banging and slamming and swearing up and down and sideways was a bit much. (Although I do agree it wasn't fair to have him go over to get the trash at the photo shoot.)

              And what's up with Jen finally revealing that she's worked in some very high end kitchens? I couldn't quite tell if she only did pastry in those kitchens, or if she has also been a line / sous chef in those kitchens, and then turned to pastry chef. Interesting turn of events - I would have counted Jen out a few weeks ago, but she's definitely the best kitchen manager on the red team.

              Rock still bugs me - I hate it when he refers to himself in the 3rd person. And he doesn't have the trust of Josh or the other guy the way Jen seems to have with Bonnie and Julia. New prediction based on what I've seen so far - Jen and Rock in the finale. (Although I would dearly love Julia to take it all, just to prove her former contestants wrong.)

              To Chinon00 - HK3 is all about the drama, and always has been, and TC3 (at least this season) is definitely more about the food and who actually makes good food.

              And it looks like the American version of "Kitchen Nightmares" is going to be more of the same - drama, and Ramsay shouting "bollocks!" at everyone (although I do love that word <vbg>). I'm looking forward to the BBC-A's reruns of last season's British version starting on 7/12, where the kinder, gentler Gordon Ramsay is shown.

              1. re: LindaWhit
                swsidejim Jul 10, 2007 09:35 AM

                I was wondering the same thing about Melissa's goatee, or "soal patch". I dont watch the show from start to finish(I usually flip over between innings of the White Sox Games), so I was wondering if she got burned, or if that was a new trend... ; )

                I think Rock & Jen are the best of the "chefs", and as I have stated before I like Gordon, he reminds me of some of the screaming maniacal chefs I used to work with.

                1. re: swsidejim
                  Scott M Jul 10, 2007 10:41 AM

                  As for the "soul patch", I think it was a big blemish she was covering up with makeup. At least that is what it looked like to me.

                  1. re: Scott M
                    beachmouse Jul 11, 2007 08:21 PM

                    Apparently the thing on Melissa's chin was a grease burn

                2. re: LindaWhit
                  Tonto Jul 15, 2007 07:54 PM

                  I am curious about the BBC you mentioned. When and where can I find that?
                  Thanks LindaWhit

                  1. re: Tonto
                    LindaWhit Jul 16, 2007 05:59 AM

                    Tonto (love the handle! LOL) - go to http://www.bbcamerica.com/ to check the show schedule in your area. I'd also check your own cable system online to make sure they carry BBC America (although I believe most do).

                    1. re: LindaWhit
                      Tonto Jul 16, 2007 03:38 PM

                      Thank you

                3. re: C. Hamster
                  tochipotle Jul 10, 2007 11:43 AM

                  True Melissa looks pretty strung out - her lipstick in last weeks episode was hilarious! All over the place.
                  I think Jen is odd and seems kind of slow when she's out of the dinner service kitchen. Thought they all looked and sounded a bit drunk after the photo shoot, especially Jen - funny.
                  Kinda disappointed that Julia seems to be losing it (crying all the time?) - I was hoping for her to take them all!
                  Also disappointed that Rock didn't tear the photo shoot apart...that would have been Fox worthy.
                  After last night, I'm not rooting for anybody anymore. But looking forward to them bringing back Aaron and Eddie for the finale!

                  1. re: C. Hamster
                    LulusMom Jul 11, 2007 02:28 PM

                    Yes, Melissa seemed to suddenly become a complete mess in the last few weeks. What the heck happened?? And she looks like Cousin It.

                    1. re: LulusMom
                      slacker Jul 11, 2007 04:19 PM

                      hey don't insult Cousin Itt.

                      1. re: slacker
                        LulusMom Jul 11, 2007 05:14 PM

                        At least he's zitless.

                        1. re: LulusMom
                          soupkitten Jul 11, 2007 05:27 PM

                          and coherent.

                  2. ChinoWayne Jul 10, 2007 09:26 AM

                    After last night I said to myself, this program is just a CARTOON. Ramsey has got to be a member of the Screen Actors Guild, and he must be pulling down a lot of loot for his performance.

                    The plot has gotten so predictable, and the set-ups are so obvious.

                    Don't forget, this is a Fox "reality" show, so if the craven Rupert is able to get away with this bogus entertainment and laugh all the way to the bank, think about what he is going to do to the Wall Street Journal when he gets his dirty hands on it.


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                    1. re: ChinoWayne
                      LindaWhit Jul 10, 2007 09:43 AM

                      ChinoWayne, come on - ANY "reality show" is going to be as predictable and as much of a "bogus entertainment" show, not just those shown on FOX-TV. Doesn't matter if it's Bravo, MTV, CBS, NBC, ABC or wherever it's shown.

                      It's marketing at its finest / worst - this is what the viewing public says they want based on ratings, so they continue to come up with more and more shows like it. It's all about the dollar.

                      1. re: LindaWhit
                        ChinoWayne Jul 10, 2007 09:51 AM

                        Oh I agree with you, totally. It was just that it struck me that it was so over the top last night that Hell's Kitchen has become a carton of the genre.

                        And as I pondered on another recent thread, are the restaurant "guests" all getting scale for their performances as extras?

                        1. re: ChinoWayne
                          LindaWhit Jul 10, 2007 10:04 AM

                          It (HK3) is definitely becoming a caricature of itself (sort of the way I thought of TC2 over TC1 - only redeeming itself with TC3's concentration on food vs. drama).

                          But I have to admit, I'd still rather watch HK3 vs. Flava Flav and the Flavor of Love, or whatever the h*** it was called on MTV.

                          And I'd assume the "guests" only get paid if they say anything that makes it on-air. (But that assumption could be wrong.) Otherwise, it's face time and the ability to put "Dining Guest - Hells Kitchen 3, Episode 4" on your resume. :-)

                          Updated to add - just read this on TWoP: "A diner, who was paid fifty dollars to eat at the restaurant for free, can't believe he's not going to get dessert. "F*** that," he comments, and BOOM! he's on TV. "

                          So it's WAY less than scale - but they get paid. And hopefully, get on TV. :-)

                          1. re: ChinoWayne
                            LabRat Jul 10, 2007 10:12 AM

                            Ransey and Fox are actually being sued by a former general manager of a restaurant featured in his upcoming series "Kitchen Nightmares", where Ransey travels around the country spending a week at a failing restaurant trying to turn it around. One of the claims is that Ransey hired actors to eat at the restaurant while they filmed the follow-up to make it seem as if they were doing far better than they actually were. The series is an American version of the British one that has been on for 4 seasons and can be seen on BBC America.

                            1. re: ChinoWayne
                              RBCal Jul 10, 2007 01:00 PM

                              I read somewhere on the internet that the restaurants "guests" get paid $50 to eat there.

                        2. LindaWhit Jul 10, 2007 10:26 AM

                          For anyone who wants to read a great recap - check out TWoP...I had forgotten about one of Ramsay's lines last night when he got three apps when he had only called for two: "I asked for two, and I get something else as a little present!"


                          1. Scott M Jul 10, 2007 10:45 AM

                            This season is no different than any others in the women win the reward challenges nine times out of ten. Ramsey then goes off with the women and has fun when they win. Rarely does he join the men when they win. Last week, the men were given the spa reward and Ramsey was no where to be found. Believe me if the women had won he would have been there with them. I bet if you could go back to the previous two seasons you would see the women win 90% of the reward challenges and Ramsey tags along every time. Ramsey joins the men for their reward probably 20% of the time.

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                              slacker Jul 10, 2007 03:58 PM

                              I thoroughly enjoy Hell's Kitchen, it just makes me laugh and laugh. Total unreality reality. And of course Ramsey picked the women to win, why would he want to pose with a bunch of guys? Plus I think he was looking forward to seeing the nanny all dolled up.

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                              1. re: slacker
                                RBCal Jul 11, 2007 01:36 PM

                                I guess I would like HK more if it didn't pretend to be reality. Next time they should just cast all attractive looking people like on Survivor. They should make them cook in their swim suits and flirt with Ramsey. This would be more honest (which I know you can't expect from Fox).

                              2. bigmackdaddy Jul 11, 2007 06:04 PM

                                I love the show. I was curious about Ramsey after watching HK and reading up on him on Wikidpedia. Afterwards I ordered a cookbook of his and I am very impressed. He seems to use no refined white stuff in most of his dinner recipes and to achieve three Michelin stars is quite an achievement. Now when I watch the show I pretty much guess why he is impatient and very anal on how he presents his food. Plus the melodramatics add a lot to the show.

                                1. LindaWhit Jul 13, 2007 10:39 AM

                                  I'm reading Bourdain's posts re: HK3 and TNFNS on Ruhlman's blog, and then reading the comments to his essays. Just read the following two comments regarding Aaron, the Asian Cowboy "character" in the HK3 blog comments:

                                  "Yeah, but the best part about HK is that Aaron the Crying Asian Cowboy wasn't sick. It was all fake. And, he's not a nursing home cook. He runs a very successful Chinese food place in Torrance, and volunteers at a nursing home where his mother lives. And? He's an actor. Has been an extra on "Weeds" and a few other shows. His "illness" was all faked and once the production team found out about it, they staged the whole fake phone call of Gordo telling Aaron he was off the show, so the HK folks could save face. This all comes from a very well-placed source at FOX."


                                  "RI Swampyankee is correct. I've known Aaron for over twenty years. He not only has The Tea House, but he's also a caterer. The man can float around a kitchen like a ballerina."

                                  WHY would anyone subject themselves to that kind of ridicule and "play" a character like that? It can't do your professional reputation any good! If I walked into that Tea House and saw Aaron based on what was shown on the show, I'd walk back out.

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                                  1. re: LindaWhit
                                    RBCal Jul 13, 2007 10:56 AM

                                    Probably Aaron thought it would help him get additional acting jobs. He was pretty convincing at pretending to be sick.

                                    Goes to show that HK is not about food.

                                    1. re: LindaWhit
                                      bigmackdaddy Jul 13, 2007 12:45 PM

                                      If he was on "Weeds" then he should be listed on IMDB.

                                      1. re: bigmackdaddy
                                        beachmouse Jul 13, 2007 03:59 PM

                                        If it was only an extra gig, it's not in the credits or in IMDB . The only people who pay attention to names of the paid extras are the people in the accounting office that send out tax info to them at the end of the year.

                                        1. re: bigmackdaddy
                                          LindaWhit Jul 13, 2007 05:41 PM

                                          He obviously hasn't had enough acting work to be recognized on IMDB. Also, supposed "Aaron" isn't his name, according to other posts I read on Ruhlman's blog. Will be interesting to see if anything else comes out about him.

                                          I still wouldn't go to his restaurant if this is what he did to get some publicity.

                                          1. re: LindaWhit
                                            melly Jul 15, 2007 09:42 PM

                                            I thought the thing on Melissa's chin was where she once had a piercing and it hasn't healed..or else she has one big scar there. She looks like shit for sure.

                                            Ramsay has a new show coming out..like the one he did for the BBC. Kitchen Nightmares or something like that where he goes around the US helping troubled restaurants.

                                            1. re: melly
                                              LindaWhit Jul 16, 2007 06:00 AM

                                              Yeah, but this one doesn't look like the British version - more "Americanized" with Chef Ramsay doing a lot of shouting. At least that's what they're showing on the ads. Hopefully what they're showing is the majority of the shouting vs. actually helping the restaurants. Can't wait to see - love the BBC-A season going on right now.

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                                        KathyM Jul 16, 2007 05:22 PM

                                        As bad as HK is, I would rather watch it than Paula Deen's sons show or Guy Fiori on TFNW.

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