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Food Tourist Jul 2, 2007 09:45 PM

I'm from Toronto, Canada and will be visiting Diamond Creek (near Eltham/Greensborough) as well as other parts of Melbourne this month. I'd love to try "local" specialities, street food, the best take-away, etc.
My cousin has recommended Tuto Bene, Donovans, The Rockpool, Vue de Monde, and the Supper Inn (chinese).
I'd love to eat anything that I can't get in Toronto (e.g. fresh local seafood, Australian/Kiwi/South Pacific food, or anything that is Australian-style and/or fantastic - e.g. we don't have excellent Greek food up here). I don't care about good service, nice atmosphere or hype. Just give me memorable food but preferably not Vue de Monde pricing because I will be picking up the tab for my family members. $50 per person or less would be a nice budget.
I am still craving the oyster shooters I had 5 years ago at Ezard at Adelphi. Now that's memorable!
I am also looking for terrific bakeries, food shops, etc. I can take the train from Diamond Creek to anywhere in the greater Melbourne area or get on a tram once I'm in the city.

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    smashley Dec 6, 2007 11:31 PM

    did you like desserts? Brunetti, Koko Black, Max Brenner.. oodles of yummie places to go.

    http://www.brunetti.com.au/
    http://www.kokoblack.com/
    www.maxbrenner.com/ (bit of a pain site but the oz stores are listed there somewhere

    )

    else you can always check out http://melbournedesserts.com.au/ . It's just a new site but they seem to be posting up dessert places now and then.

    have fun!

    1. nate the great Sep 26, 2007 08:59 AM

      the flower drum in melbourne is my favorite restaurant...it is a little pricey but worth every penny

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        Blacken Sep 10, 2007 03:48 AM

        Hmmmm a while since Ive been there, but going to the ala carte Yum Cha session at Davids in South Yarra (back street one - not the one directly on Chapel Street) was a delight for me.

        Seriously the best Yum Cha I have ever had. Make sure you go to the ala carte session if they still do it

        Cheers

        1. Food Tourist Aug 23, 2007 07:43 AM

          Thanks everyone! I managed to eat out quite a bit - even at The Bridge in Bendigo (where the former Taxi chef has turned up) which I don't really recommend...overcooked too-salty pork belly appetizer, blah desserts, heavy hand with salt...they were only under new chef for 3 weeks at that point, though. Highlight in Bendigo was Balgownie Estates lunch - lovely pizzas!

          Other highlights in Melbourne included The Rockpool (amazing marshmallows!), Ezard (though those oyster shooters are a little too sweet now, compared to 5 years ago), Flower Drum (had 4 course lunch - best part was the amazing beef filet), and Chine on Paramount (5 course supper - a tiny bit salty but excellent service). Wasn't impressed with the dim sum or greens in oyster sauce at Nam Loong (sorry Uncle Mike!) but their hokkein noodles made a tasty lunch.

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          1. re: Food Tourist
            Food Tourist Aug 28, 2007 10:46 AM

            Forgot 3 other highlights: Malmsbury Bakery on the way to Bendigo had great quiches, pies, and breads.
            Delizia Cucina at 160 Victoria St. in Seddon (Yarraville) had absolutely divine lemon tart (think huge thick slice of heavenly lemon cheesecake). It's worth the drive and the $7.
            Mornington Peninsula chocolates make high-quality, tasty, well-balanced chocolates. Also worth the drive if you're going to Red Hill.

          2. Food Tourist Jul 22, 2007 04:46 AM

            My food-loving uncle recommends:
            Taxi Cafe on Spencer St. for the best burger
            Nam Loong on Russell for dim sum, calamari in black bean, and greens in oyster sauce.
            Pellegrini's on Bourke for coffee, nougat and spaghetti
            Boscastle pies - thai chicken or any
            Rolf's pies - curried seafood pie, but not worth a long drive unlike Boscastle!
            Lambs for souvlaki (on Lygon)
            Rasa Chinta in Heidelberg - for any Malaysian esp. chicken pendang (not on menu)
            House of Salad in Eltham for the house special pizza
            Tiramisu in Eltham for schitzel calzone (huge), T-bone steak (portugese style) and wood-fired pizzas with fresh meat toppings
            Stalactites

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            1. re: Food Tourist
              e_ting Aug 16, 2007 02:57 AM

              taxi has had a change of hands recently, don't know if they're as good as they were.
              places like Nam Loong and Fu Long (in Box Hill) are very Aussie-Chinese, which is kinda like American Chinese, so don't expect too much!
              pellegrini's is good for coffee, but mainly it's more about the experience - that place has been around forever, so soak in the atmos :)
              actually grossi's cellar bar (not grossi florentino, where you'll lose an arm and a leg) is a better place to go for food, IMO. it's just as cheap (and just as narrow). their sticky date pudding (around AUD $7) is absolutely fab, esp for the price!
              pies - there's a place called dinkum pies i think in the city, around little collins st.?
              lambs - YES!
              Ladro has been receiving a whole lot of hype since its opening about a yr or so ago - excellent wood fired, thin crust pizzas.
              but above all, Melb is a cafe city. coffee debates are de rigeur, so the general quality of coffee is pretty good. my fave caffs are:
              babka: bakery/cafe on brunswick street, fitzroy (there are loads of cafes round here, and cheaper ethnic eateries on smith st (parallel) and the hip place to be these days is gertrude st, perpendicular to brunswick and smith)
              baker d chirico: st kilda. killer nougats and loaves that disappear in a matter of seconds
              replete providore: barkers road, hawthorn. excellent brunch place
              i could go on, Melb is such a great foodie city. i left about five months ago and am feeling homesick as i type!!

              1. re: e_ting
                purple goddess Aug 16, 2007 11:28 PM

                I beg to differ on Fu Long, e ting.... Every time we go, we are often the only westerners there.. and green tripe congee, arrowroot and hair vegetable stew or chicken's feet hardly constitute Aussie Chinese!!

            2. Food Tourist Jul 10, 2007 06:54 AM

              A wine critic friend suggested T'Gallant in Mornington peninsula for simple but excellent pizzas and pastas; Giant Steps winery, Coldstream Hills, DeBortoli, Yering Station; and Flower Drum. Any thoughts for road trip eats?

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              1. re: Food Tourist
                kmh Jul 10, 2007 07:59 AM

                Coldstream hills wines (an much of the yarra valley) is def. a good day trip. James Hallliday (C/S Hills) is one of the most respected wine critics in this country and thus the limited varieties coming from his vineyard are good, and good value for the $$
                and did you know that LVMH (Chandon) have a vineyard in this region too?

                A bit off center - but if you have time venture north - north west of melbourne as there is some really interesting and innovative food production occuring ex farm gate e.g. Glenloth Game (wycheproof/Quambatook),, simply green tomatoes (Boort - also in Boort is the largest olive processing facitility in s'hemisphere) and Horizon Salt (Pyramid Hill). Castlemaine is also a great arts & culinary area if you don't have the time to get to the aforementioned places.

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                  purple goddess Jul 10, 2007 04:42 PM

                  Ah... now you're speaking my language!!!!

                  The Mornington Peninsula has a host of marvelous food.. T'Gallant's is wonderful, as is Darling Park Winery... The vanilla slices at the Conti at Sorrento are worth the petrol price alone.

                  Completely and utterly avoid Stella's Bistro at the Dromana Hotel. I cannot tell you how utterly, UTTERLY vile the food is there....

                  Red Hill Market is held on the 1st Sat of every month, and it is a wonderful show case of local goodies...

                  http://www.mornington-peninsula.com/r...

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                  Darling Park Winery
                  232 Red Hill Rd, Red Hill, Victoria 3937, AU

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                    lilipad Jul 10, 2007 11:00 PM

                    For the best pies and bakery treats in the CBD, you should try Dinkum Pies, 29 Block Pl, Melbourne (between Collins and Little Collins Streets). Its a small cafeteria type of place that doesn't look like it's changed much over the last couple of decades. Always packed at lunchtime, a Big M chocolate milk to wash down your pie is pretty much obligatory.

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                      cankles Jul 17, 2007 05:10 PM

                      Adding in Stalactites Restaurant

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                      Stalactites Restaurant
                      177 Lonsdale St, Melbourne, Victoria 3000, AU

                2. Food Tourist Jul 10, 2007 06:48 AM

                  Lest I only emphasize malayan/balinese, I'm also very interested in food from Tahiti, Fiji, Polynesia, etc.
                  Also, the best "Aussie" food - e.g. meat pies, dimsims, lamingtons, etc. They seem to be everywhere but not necessarily tasty.
                  Thanks!

                  1. purple goddess Jul 2, 2007 11:11 PM

                    For Greek, you have to go to Stalactites, a Melbourne institution...
                    Stalactites Restaurant
                    177-183 Lonsdale St
                    Melbourne, VIC 3000
                    Tel: (03) 9663-3316

                    http://www.stalactites.com.au/

                    It's crowded.. it's noisy.. it's open 24 hours and it is seriously Greek.

                    Eltham has a market once a month, so check it out if you can, lots of little stalls selling things like Sri Lankan sweets and curries and stuff.

                    Best Yum Cha IMHO is Foo Long in Box Hill.. Can't remember the addy or phone.. will post it later... again very loud, very cheap and very Asian.

                    You must get to the Queen Victoria MArkets and check out the range of foods there... their fish and seafood markets are to die for...

                    www.qvm.com.au

                    Other foodie "must do's" are a tram ride down Victoria Street, for pho, a tram ride down Lygon Street for Italian, a tram ride down Brunswick street for pretty much anything (stop off at Charmaine's ice cream parlor for the best icecream in town....

                    Charmaine's
                    370 Brunswick St
                    Tel: 03 9417 5379

                    And a tram ride down Chapel Street to see the Chi Chi Poo Poo people (and stop off for a souvi at Lamb's, although the quality there waxes and wanes

                    )

                    I could wax lyrical for hours about the Melbourne food scene... and while Vue de Monde is all the shizz, I'd rather eating at a hole in the wall Thai resto in an alley in Springvale!!!

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                    1. re: purple goddess
                      Food Tourist Jul 3, 2007 08:50 AM

                      Thanks purple goddess -- I knew I could count on you to chime in! Where exactly is that Thai place in Springvale? What makes Charmaine's the "best"? Do you know any place for Balinese or other south/southeast Asian or south pacific food?
                      And is there "street food" in Melbourne? In Toronto we are only allowed to buy hotdogs and sausages on the street.

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                        purple goddess Jul 3, 2007 05:24 PM

                        South east asian food is pretty much everywhere.... There is a great Malayan resto in Mount Waverley/Syndal.... but that's where I live, so I am pretty sure you;d find equally as food around the area you're staying.

                        If you can, jump on a train and get to Springvale.. A.K.A Little Vietnam.. although the lLittle Vietnams of Richmond and Box hill are prolly easier for you to get to... just wander around.. there is Viet/Malay/Japanese/general asian food/shops/restos on every corner.

                        Charmaines is the best icecream IMHO, because of the flavour combo's I love their chocolate Chilli icecream paired with their Quince... **insert sounds of heavenly choir**

                        But again, there are gelaterias and icecream places everywhere..

                        In Glen Waverley, there is prolly the best lemon gelato I have ever tasted outside Italy... and another icecream parlor tha does Asian fusion icecreams like wasabi and/or red bean..so "best" is subjectively mine!!!

                        No street food that I know of... like vendors or chili trucks...but markets often sell interesting "stuff".. we haver occasionally dodgy vans that sell hot dogs and jam donuts, but they are usually out in the country.. or major routes out of town.. in truck parking stops... and you can do a lot better elsewhere...

                        I'll have a poke around for Balinese, I'm sure you can find it.. probabaly in Brunswick street, next door to an ethiopian resto!!!! Melbourne;s like that.

                        My colleague has just pointed out you MUSt do Acland Street in St. Kilda for the russian/jewish cake shops, too.. A chocolate cherry mountain from Scheherazade is another heavenly choir moment!!!!

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                          kmh Jul 3, 2007 05:29 PM

                          the hot jam donuts at the QV markets stand out in my memory. Especially if its a cold day! just don't burn your chin when the jam oozes out! yum!

                          1. re: purple goddess
                            Food Tourist Jul 10, 2007 06:46 AM

                            pg, please supply name/address of Glen Waverley lemon gelateria and Malayan resto where you live.

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                              purple goddess Jul 10, 2007 04:10 PM

                              , Real Gelato, 108 The Kingsway, Glen Waverley

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                                purple goddess Jul 10, 2007 04:17 PM

                                and trying to link it for you...

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                                Real Gelato
                                Melbourne, VIC, Australia

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                                  purple goddess Jul 10, 2007 04:29 PM

                                  Nonya Hut in Glen Waverley/Syndal.. walking distance from Syndal train station

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                                  Nonya Hut
                                  Melbourne, VIC, Australia

                                  1. re: purple goddess
                                    purple goddess Jul 10, 2007 04:33 PM

                                    Fu long

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                                    Fu Long
                                    942 Whitehorse Rd, Box Hill, Victoria 3128, AU

                            2. re: purple goddess
                              Food Tourist Jul 15, 2007 07:00 AM

                              My aunt loves Aviv in St. Kilda and my uncle loves Trampoline, which he swears used to be Charmaine's.
                              I'm almost positive the Eltham market was on today -- as I whizzed by on the train to the city, I noticed a bunch of outdoor stalls and vendors below the tracks. Hope I am not completely out of luck for the next month!

                              1. re: purple goddess
                                Food Tourist Jul 18, 2007 09:54 PM

                                Enjoyed Charmaine's at Fed Square on Tuesday...the owner said he hasn't had quince in a couple of years, but I really enjoyed honeycomb (sweet) and chile chocolate (hotter than expected!) Also sampled licorice and macadamia. Cool flavours!

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                                  purple goddess Jul 18, 2007 10:18 PM

                                  glad you liked it, FT... Come to think of it HAS been a while since I had the quince.. and I had it in their Brunswick Rd outlet.

                                  Are you going to get a trip in to the Mornington Peninsula??

                                  1. re: purple goddess
                                    Food Tourist Jul 22, 2007 04:04 AM

                                    Back from a beautiful day in Mornington Pen. Went to Red Hill Estates (best of the lot!) with excellent Chardonnay and muscat. Also visited 10 by Tractor and T'Gallant (not impressed with either's wines but I'm not a fan of chardonnay and pinot in general, which doesn't help since this region is all about those two varieties!).
                                    T'Gallant for lunch - enjoyed the broccoli, leek, ricotta pizza (only choice available) and found the gnocchi with duck a bit too vinegary though the crispy sage and mustard jam topping was unique and interesting! Stopped at M.P. Chocolates on the way home - they even offered two tastings of lemon and plain ganache. They use Callebaut to make most offerings.

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                                nerdontheloose Jul 5, 2007 03:03 AM

                                Hello there,
                                I'm a kiwi-Indonesian whose parents are originally from Indo. I recently moved to Melbourne to study, so one of the first things I did was hunt out at least one Indonesian restaurant I could escape to when College food turned sour or if I missed mum's yummy Indonesian food.

                                If you're looking for something central and quite cheap, Nelayan ( http://www.nelayan.com.au/) is quite a good start. It's sort of a relaxed, food alley kind of place on Swanston Street, where students will often come and have lunch or dinner with friends. They have sop buntut (oxtail soup), satay, ayam goreng kuning (yellow fried chicken), ayam bakar, nasi goreng and bakmi goreng (fried rice and noodles) etc etc. If you go there though, make sure you try some of the Indonesian cakes they have especially martabak kacang! oh boy... thank goodness I'm home for the holidays! No need to go out for Indo food.

                                If you're looking somewhere a bit more um.. classy, to take your family to, I would recommend Warung Agus. Very good, authentic Indonesian food.A taste of Bali in West Melbourne! http://yourrestaurants.com.au/guide/warung_agus/

                                If you like satay, perhaps try Sataybar (http://www.satay.com.au/)? I have yet to go there, but it will be on my list of places when I get back to Melbourne. European style "kebabs" are alright, but Indonesian sate ayam with sambal kacang (peanut sauce) is the best!

                                For another hawker style Indo cafe try Garage Cafe at 221 Berkeley Street, Carlton. They do a very good Soto ayam!!!

                                Dad's just reminded me now to tell you about Es Teler77 (319 Swanston St, Melbourne http://www.esteler77.com ). This is a branch of the original Es Teler cafes in Indo where they serve mainly Indonesian dessert drinks (their specialty is es teler [duh!] which is basically coconut, jackfruit, avocado, sweet milk and ice) but if you get the chance also try their mie bakso, they have the most gigantic beefballs! There's a review of the Glenferrie Rd branch here - http://www.theage.com.au/news/reviews...

                                Food galore, hope that helps!

                                1. re: nerdontheloose
                                  Food Tourist Jul 15, 2007 07:03 AM

                                  Thanks! Had lunch at Nelayan today - coconut drink, oxtail soup, fried rice, and beef rendang with roti canai. Oxtail and beef were supersalty and coconut drink was supersweet, but everything was tasty. It was certainly crowded and chaotic!

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                                katea Jul 17, 2007 11:29 PM

                                oh yes! if you can forget about thw waist line for a moment, at the Vic markets make sure you ahve a hot spanish jam dougnut from the vans - as a child who went to Melbourne once a year I craved them for the 12 months each year I had to wait!!!!

                                1. re: purple goddess
                                  Food Tourist Jul 18, 2007 09:52 PM

                                  Took Nana to Stalactites on cold Tuesday afternoon for lunch...we sat by the fireplace but still couldn't thaw out! That restaurant is freezing cold. Enjoyed eggplant dip, pita, pork trotters and tripe soup (very tripey taste); small lamb gyro platter (a bit overcooked/crispy but tasty); and horiatiki salad. They tried to overcharge us for a large lamb platter but I stood my ground and they relented and fixed the bill.

                                  How much is a reasonable tip in Australia? I'm used to tipping 15% in Canada.

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                                    kmh Jul 18, 2007 10:09 PM

                                    tipping is not expected in this country (yet) but is appreciated. if the service is good, then tip, if it's not, don't. around 10% is pretty common (I think) but it really depends on where you are and on the service. a 15% tip would only be warranted if the service was very good.

                                    1. re: kmh
                                      Food Tourist Jul 22, 2007 04:00 AM

                                      Oops, didn't read this in time...tipped 0% today at T'Gallant because my companions said a tip was never necessary or expected as servers are paid fairly in this country! Will reconsider next time.

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                                        kmh Jul 22, 2007 03:11 PM

                                        there is a minimum wage and it's probably fairer than in USA (and I assume Canada from your sentiments), however I wouldn't want to be trying to live off neither the wages nor the conditions that they are employed...
                                        rule of thumb is only if the service is good, approx 10% or I also agree with PG on this one and say the chage plus a few gold coins.

                                        to REALLY insult bad service, leave 5c coin behind!

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                                      purple goddess Jul 18, 2007 10:22 PM

                                      Damn the temp in Melbourne at the moment!! you DO realise that Tuesday was the coldest day in Melb for 10 years!!!!!

                                      I personally like the crispy gyros outer bits.. yummmmmmm

                                      And good on you for standing your ground... I've never had a problem there, but hell..$h!te happens, hey??

                                      Like KMH says, 10% is pretty standard, but not expected...I usually leave the change, plus a bit more...

                                  2. kmh Jul 2, 2007 10:10 PM

                                    as an "out of towner" some of my favourites for Melbourne are:

                                    Yu-u (japanese) 137 Flinders La, Melbourne (03) 9639-7073
                                    read the age review: http://www.theage.com.au/news/restaurant-reviews/yuu/2005/10/13/1128796624146.html
                                    and take note of the picture as the door is around the corner and (unless its changed) there is next to NO sign.

                                    Il Bacaro (italian) 168-170 Lt Collins St, Melbourne (03) 9654-6778
                                    http://www.theage.com.au/news/restaur...

                                    Il solito posto is cheap and great for breakfast Shop 4, 113 Collins Street (enter from George Parade), Melbourne (03) 9654 4466

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                                    1. re: kmh
                                      Food Tourist Jul 3, 2007 09:00 AM

                                      Yu-u sounds right up my alley! Thanks. The review is from 2005 - I wonder if it has become easier to find now.

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                                        kmh Jul 3, 2007 02:51 PM

                                        I douibt it. Melbourne prides itself on laneway restaurants.

                                        I also thought of MoVida which is a spanish tapas. that's fun too.

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                                          katea Jul 17, 2007 11:28 PM

                                          Definately try Movida, now billed as the best Spanish in Australia, it is fantastic, and has a great Melbourne feel to it too.

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                                        Food Tourist Jul 15, 2007 06:56 AM

                                        Located Yu-u today on walkabout; unfortunately, closed Sundays but will return. There is a tiny sign to the right of the door, but since the door is not on Flinders Lane, I would never have found it if not for you!

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                                          weinstein5 Jul 18, 2007 01:36 AM

                                          I ate there last week very good - I was looking for sushi all they had was sashimi - still delicious thoug.

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                                            kmh Jul 18, 2007 03:45 AM

                                            Yu-u? but it's not a sushi bar.
                                            it's typical of a beer bar as far as i understand. i.e. COOKED japanese food.
                                            it's the best japanese food i've had aside from my mother's cooking (and she learned to cook japanese when we lived in japan; my dad's work colleagues used to think her cooking was better than their (japanese) wives.)

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                                            Food Tourist Aug 28, 2007 10:48 AM

                                            Unfortunately couldn't get a table at Yu-u at the last minute on a Friday lunch hour.

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