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jane Jul 2, 2007 05:44 PM

Where to buy Spanish wine?

I'm loving Spanish whites (especially txakoli) during this hot weather, and I've found a few at K&L and some others at the Spanish Table in Berkeley. Anybody know where else to find some good bottles? Thanks.

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    zenki Jul 11, 2007 10:59 AM

    I think Ledger's Liquor at 1399 University in Berkeley carries Sspanish wines. It is a good store that looks like it carries only Thunderbird.

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    1. re: zenki
      Robert Lauriston Jul 11, 2007 11:03 AM

      Ledger's has an impressive Belgian and Belgian-style beer selection. Don't remember having been very impressed by their wine selection, but it's a short drive from the motherlode at Spanish Table, so easy to combine on one shopping trip. Vintage Berkeley also stocks a high percentage of Spanish stuff with occasional bottles you won't find elsewhere.

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      Ledger's Liquors
      1399 University Ave, Berkeley, CA 94702

      Vintage Berkeley
      2113 Vine St, Berkeley, CA 94709

    2. Chuckles the Clone Jul 10, 2007 09:55 PM

      Almost forgot, I went by Odd Lots a month or two back and picked up five random bottles of Spanish reds, all different. They ranged from "eh" to "not overly bad". None was over $9. Selection changes pretty fast, so further guidance is impossible. The guy who runs the place is real helpful though; he tried to steer me away from all five of them but I was on a mission.

      Definitely worth a shot if you're at the Spanish Table since it's just a mile or so norther on San Pablo.

      Place linking is still broken for me, but here's the address if
      someone else wants to add a placemark:

      1025 San Pablo Avenue
      (between Buchanan St & Marin Ave)
      Albany, CA 94706

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      1. re: Chuckles the Clone
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        lmnopm Jul 10, 2007 11:09 PM

        I had a nice basque white at the wine bar @ Solano Cellars in Albany recently. Although I haven't been there for ages, you might want to check out the Sabor of Spain (store next to the restaurant) in San Rafael.

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        abe stein Jul 10, 2007 08:12 PM

        you never know what you might find at Giovanni's in El Cerrito. a lot of
        their wines are in and out of stock quickly but lately I've seen a decent selection
        of Spanish. mostly reds though.

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        Giovanni's Produce & Grocery
        1600 Liberty St, El Cerrito, CA 94530

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          squash Jul 9, 2007 11:26 AM

          The Wine Club is a great places to get Spanish Wine

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          Wine Club
          953 Harrison St, San Francisco, CA 94107

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          1. re: squash
            Robert Lauriston Jul 9, 2007 11:46 AM

            Wine Club stocks only a handful of Spanish whites. They have a good selection of reds.

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            squash Jul 3, 2007 04:54 PM

            I heard about a wine shop in the Outer Richmond called Blackwell's Wines & Spirits

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            Blackwell's Wines & Spirits
            5620 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA 94121

            1. Chuckles the Clone Jul 3, 2007 02:15 PM

              The Spanish Table is about as good as it gets. One reason you're not seeing a
              lot of white activity there is because there really isn't a lot of Spanish white. And
              for the most part, what there is is mostly fermented garbage. And that's in Spain.

              Spain is a deeply red country. Most whites are carbonated and sold as cava (which
              can be very, very good) or fortified into vermut. Txakoli's a bit of an oddball; I'm not
              sure I've ever seen it available in Spain outside the Basque country. The other
              drinkable white is albariño from Galicia, which is the standard good Spanish white.
              But in neither case is there really much depth to the style. If you've found something
              you like, you might be best to just stick with it; there's unlikely to be anything better.

              Now, if you're really looking for a traditional Spanish summertime drink, you can't
              do better than a kalimotxo. Take a bottle of cheap but hearty red. Chill it. Put a couple
              of ice cubes into an 8oz glass. Fill half with the wine, half with coke. Stir, add a lemon
              twist. Guzzle. Repeat. Mmmmm!

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              1. re: Chuckles the Clone
                Robert Lauriston Jul 3, 2007 03:36 PM

                I've gotten dozens of good Spanish whites from Spanish Table, which must have a few hundred to choose from. I started a topic on the Wine board to discuss them:

                http://www.chowhound.com/topics/417620

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                  zin1953 Jul 4, 2007 06:26 AM

                  Chuckles, this post is factually incorrect is so many ways . . . .

                  >>> . . . there really isn't a lot of Spanish white. And for the most part, what there is is mostly fermented garbage. >> Most whites are carbonated and sold as cava <<<

                  CAVA is a méthode champenoise / méthode traditionelle sparkling wine, produced in the same, time-honored techniques employed at Chandon, Schramsberg, Korbel, etc. These are NOT "carbonated"; indeed, it is illegal to sell carbonated wines under the name CAVA.

                  Cheers,
                  Jason

                  1. re: zin1953
                    Chuckles the Clone Jul 10, 2007 07:50 PM

                    I realize that. I guess I was unclear. I meant carbonated as an adjective, not a noun.

                    Rather than that, I was hoping someone would pick up on the "fermented garbage"
                    part of my note. Having lived, worked, visited family, eaten, and most of all drank
                    ("drinked"?) in Spain for a considerable part of the past decade and a half, I don't
                    come to that characterization lightly. I can count the really great whites I've
                    had there on my left thumb. I was vaguely hoping that maybe all the good stuff
                    gets exported and someone could lead me to something worth finishing.

                    1. re: Chuckles the Clone
                      Chuckles the Clone Jul 11, 2007 12:15 AM

                      "as an adjective, not a noun."

                      verb, obviously.

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                  grinch Jul 3, 2007 12:54 PM

                  I don't know much about Spanish wine, so can't say if the wines are 'good', but Trader Joe's alway has a selection.

                  1. kramos Jul 3, 2007 12:17 PM

                    How about the Jug Shop? Have ya checked there?

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                    Jug Shop Wine & Spirits
                    1590 Pacific Ave, San Francisco, CA 94109

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                      swag Jul 3, 2007 04:25 PM

                      Jug Shop I'm sure can *get it*. But as typical of my experiences there, they won't *have it*. So special order it...

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                      whiner Jul 3, 2007 09:26 AM

                      In SF proper there is always San Francisco Wine Trading Company. They aren't the cheapest and don't have the broadest selection, but they have a very well thought out selection and the staff there is incredible.

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                      1. re: whiner
                        Robert Lauriston Jul 3, 2007 09:38 AM

                        Aka Mr. Liquor. Good place. Spanish inventory:

                        http://www.sfwtc.com/?option=com_cont...

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                          whiner Jul 3, 2007 11:02 AM

                          Wow... It seems like last time I was there they had a MUCH broader Spanish selection. Hmmm...

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                            Lori SF Jul 3, 2007 11:30 AM

                            good find thanks

                            1. re: Robert Lauriston
                              5 and Dime Eater Jul 3, 2007 11:59 AM

                              San Francisco Wine Trading Company

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                              San Francisco Wine Trading Co
                              250 Taraval St, San Francisco, CA 94116

                          2. Robert Lauriston Jul 2, 2007 05:53 PM

                            Nobody has a selection as broad as Spanish Table's. That's the only store where I've seen the red txakoli.

                            Farmstead in Alameda has a very large Spanish selection for a store its size and some unusual bottles.

                            http://www.farmsteadcheesesandwines.com

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                              jane Jul 3, 2007 09:08 AM

                              Thanks, Robert! Another excuse to visit Alameda, because I've been wanting to go to Speisekammer, that you mentioned a while ago.

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                              Speisekammer
                              2424 Lincoln Ave, Alameda, CA 94501

                              1. re: Robert Lauriston
                                5 and Dime Eater Jul 3, 2007 11:28 AM

                                Here's the location for Farmstead Cheeses & Wines

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                                Farmstead Cheeses & Wines
                                1650 Park St, Alameda, CA 94501

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                                jane Jul 2, 2007 05:45 PM

                                Linking to K&L and the Spanish Table....

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                                K & L Wine Merchants
                                638 4th St, San Francisco, CA 94107

                                Spanish Table
                                1814 San Pablo Ave, Berkeley, CA 94702

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