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t
thinks too much Jun 29, 2007 01:13 PM

I've been making cordials for a couple of years with varying bases: rum, vodka, brandy. But I've read that everclear's lack of taste draws more flavoring out of the fruits and spices I've been using. It seems, however, difficult to track down. All sources seem to say something along the lines of "Everclear, which is illegal in several states including California, can be used thusly ..."

I ask you, which states is it legal? I'm in Rhode Island, for instance.

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    newtorhody Feb 3, 2009 04:25 AM

    Hey thinks too much -- I just saw 191 proof Everclear for sale at the liquor store next to Whole Foods on Main St in Providence.

    1. w
      Wienerhound Nov 24, 2008 05:57 PM

      Everclear is available in SC. In fact my father's doctor told him get some and put a few drops in his ears to loosen wax. Personally I prefer to use it to make high octane Pina Colada

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        crschechter Nov 24, 2008 06:06 AM

        I believe I've seen it for sale in NJ. Also, I don't think the lack of taste is what brings out the flavor of your additives, but the fact that it's higer proof then most consumable spirits. It would stand to reason that if the flavors are alcohol soluble, then the more alcohol in the solvent base, the more flavor extracted. Sounds right to me, anyway. Also, everclear is probably a lot cheaper to use than most other options.

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        1. re: crschechter
          The Professor Feb 8, 2009 08:42 AM

          Definitely widely available in NJ...I use it all the time for making herb and fruit infusions for blending into home made liqueurs.
          There is even another brand of 190 proof juice I've seen...DOn't recall the name, butI think it comes from Poland.

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          meenleen Jun 24, 2008 09:10 PM

          So, did we ever figure out if it is legal in NH? I am in Boston, but, I plan on camping in Epsom NH next weekend, I was told it is a must try!

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            chevrelove Nov 20, 2008 09:06 AM

            Not legal in NH. I just called and asked, apparently hasn't been for a couple of years.

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            toz1157 Apr 2, 2008 07:00 PM

            i live in washington state and i can't buy 190 proof everclear, i have also tried and Idaho and they don't sell it as well. the two states the are near me that do sell Everclear are Montana and Oregon. i think that its like 15 dollars in montana and like 11 to 15 in oregon. i think that everclear does bring out the taste of fruits but it burns so much that you don't notice it to much.

            1. Paul Weller Mar 7, 2008 06:18 AM

              Years ago I worked in a retail liquor store. I brought home a bottle of clear springs 190 proof grain alcohol. My neighbor took a big chug. He turned several different shades of red and green. After a few minutes of coughing he gasped " You can't drink that stuff straight, no way".

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                Muskrat Mar 5, 2008 05:56 PM

                When I was in college, in New Orleans, a popular drink was Everclear and grape juice (Welch's, not that fancy stuff). Called it a "purple Jesus," for obvious reasons.

                Also: Friday night special in the dining hall. Good news -- all the beer you could drink for $1 -- we'd take a bunch of 32 oz. Dixie cups full back to the dorm.

                Bad news: it was Jax beer! (This was c. 1962)

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                1. re: Muskrat
                  BarmyFotheringayPhipps Mar 5, 2008 09:23 PM

                  That's funny: in Lubbock, Texas c. 1986, Everclear and Welch's Grape Juice was still called a Purple Jesus!

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                  Sergykov Feb 16, 2008 06:54 AM

                  You can find it in Kentucky. I drove from Ohio (where it is illegal) yesterday to pick up a bottle. Found it in a first store where I looked.

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                    mojoeater Jan 20, 2008 06:28 PM

                    Cam still find it in NC.

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                      skoop323 Jan 15, 2008 09:41 PM

                      ive seen ppl at parties i go to with bottles of it. the liqour stores in hollywood have them but secretly. (meaning you have to ask)

                      1. invinotheresverde Dec 4, 2007 12:41 PM

                        I've purchased the 190 proof Everclear at a package store in EP, RI, about 6 years ago. I don't remember the name, unfortunately.

                        1. MikeG Dec 3, 2007 10:16 AM

                          Unless it's changed recently, the 190 proof is legal in New Jersey..

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                            TBird Dec 3, 2007 10:22 AM

                            i used to get it in vegas...and when i was in high school, south carolina...mixed it with kool aid. ouch....

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                              MikeG Dec 3, 2007 11:37 AM

                              Ack is right. I'd had my share of alcohol by the time I first encountered that concept and refused to drink more than the first sip - straight Everclear is better, seriously!

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                            heWho Jul 17, 2007 09:18 PM

                            If you're in RI, take a drive up 95 to NH. It's sold at state liquor stores there, but not in MA or CT. I don't think it's legal in RI, just call a liquor store to double-check.

                            1. Chuckles the Clone Jun 30, 2007 07:00 PM

                              Vodka should have a lack of taste. At least, to be sold in the US as "vodka" the government requires it to have no distinctive odor or taste.

                              Everclear comes in two strengths: 190 proof which is not legal to buy here in California and 151 proof which is available everywhere. I'm not sure what the difference between the 151 proof everclear and 151 proof grain vodka is and there's no big difference in price. I normally use Smirnoff 151 for cordials since it comes in a nice bottle I can reuse.

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                              1. re: Chuckles the Clone
                                JK Grence the Cosmic Jester Jul 1, 2007 04:28 AM

                                I believe the main difference would be the brand name.

                                Something I found out about recently with Everclear... you can't make 200 proof alcohol. If you had some, it would absorb water from the air until it reached 190 proof.

                                1. re: JK Grence the Cosmic Jester
                                  t
                                  thinks too much Jul 2, 2007 05:00 AM

                                  This is fascinating. What's your source on this JK? I have slightly different information. My source was my physicist father who's chemist father bootlegged as a favor during prohibition. He said that you may find grain alcohol that goes up too 198 proof, but not to touch anything over 190. Below 190, the impurities are water. Above that, and your impurites are benzene. Can you come up with a logical theory that ties both together? After all, we both have a limit of 190 proof.

                                  1. re: thinks too much
                                    JK Grence the Cosmic Jester Jul 3, 2007 02:20 AM

                                    a couple of bartending books and wikipedia. Not the absolute most reliable, but it was a start.

                                    1. re: taco clandestino
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                                      renov8r Jul 18, 2007 11:46 AM

                                      For chemical synthesis pure EtOh is available. It is quite costly, and highly regulated. Any plant capable of making it is more than capable of ensuring it has no impurities.

                                      1. re: thinks too much
                                        n
                                        NO SLICE Jun 8, 2010 02:08 PM

                                        There's a limit of about 193 proof (or 96.5% alcohol by volume) for alcohol that has been distilled from a mixture of ethanol and water. The reason is that a mixture of 89% ethanol (by mass) and 11% water (by mass) is called an azeotrope, and the two constituents of the mixture can no longer be separated by regular distillation alone. The reason the proof number isn't exactly double the percentage number is because proof is calculated using percent alcohol by volume (ABV) and the percentage I'm listing here is by percent by mass. This is further complicated by the fact that a mixture of ethanol and water actually has a smaller volume than the total volume of the pure ethanol and pure water that it contains due to molecular interactions (I'm not entirely sure that this is true for all ratios of ethanol to water, or even if it's true at the 89:11 ratio, but I suspect that it is and it could be time consuming to research). Also, proof numbers are calculated differently in England and the United States.

                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azeotrope

                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_by_volume

                                        And yes, if you do manage to get something with a higher percentage of pure ethanol, it will absorb water from the atmosphere (unless it's tightly sealed) until it is 89% ethanol and 11% water by mass. I'm not sure how quickly this process would occur.

                                        Removing water from the azeotropic mixture is probably as simple as adding a drying agent that will adsorb/absorb the water from the mixture, but of course the ethanol will absorb water from the atmosphere unless it's in a tightly sealed container.

                                        http://orgchem.colorado.edu/hndbksupport/drying/drying.html

                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorption

                                        I'm a chemical engineering student and this is the kind of stuff we learn in school.

                                  2. warrenr Jun 29, 2007 03:54 PM

                                    i live in ny, where it cannot be sold and buy it in ct, where it seems to be plentiful.

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                                      gracem Jun 29, 2007 01:16 PM

                                      When I was in high school in RI (10+ years ago) we used to drink Everclear mixed with Tang (yes, very ill-advised). While it was certainly illegal for me to be drinking, I don't believe the Everclear was contraband. :)

                                      eta: According to wiki, it's illegal in California, Florida, Ohio, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.

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                                        t
                                        thinks too much Jun 29, 2007 01:26 PM

                                        but wiki is using as a source someones personal website dated to 1991. When I tracked the source down, it lists 6 states as definitely illegal, 6 states as definitely legal (not including RI) and that leaves a heck of a lot of them out in limbo.

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                                          sanman Jan 19, 2008 07:40 AM

                                          Wiki is not always a reliable resource. You can find it in Florida.

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                                          Karl Jun 29, 2007 01:14 PM

                                          i'm pretty sure it's legal in RI

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