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food for life Jun 29, 2007 06:00 AM

Has anyone been to any of the Bobbi Flay's restaurant in NYC.
Would you recommend it, or is it just hype...
I'm curious about them, since I watch so much food network. You can't not help but to see him on tv.

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  1. syoung RE: food for life Jun 29, 2007 09:30 AM

    You might want to go to the Manhattan board with this question but I've been to Mr. Flay's Bar Americain. Relaxed atmosphere (unlike Batali's Babbo which is quite formal), very good and unique food, kind of like an upscale American Bistro.

    It's probably as good as any restaurant you'd find in Toronto (maybe even the best) but I wouldn't say it's among the best of Manhattan, at least not in the class of L’Atelier de Joel Robuchon, Per Se or Jean George (all of which are also more expensive). However, I would definitely recommend it as a place to bring your family for a casual (albeit expensive!) dinner.

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      Pillsburychoboy RE: syoung Jun 29, 2007 10:07 AM

      His Mesa Grill on 15th St. and 5th Ave isn't all that great. Noisy, packed ... and the food (Mexican fusion I guess) isn't all that great to begin with. Bobby Flay has become a "brand" and he's done extremely well for himself. But I think it's at the expense of his actual restaurants.

    2. sivyaleah RE: food for life Jun 29, 2007 10:17 AM

      Been to all of them - enjoyed all of them. It's a hot button topic here tho. He gets a lot of flak around here.

      I happen to like Mesa Grill, although I do think the one in Las Vegas is a step above the NYC location. I was there rather recently. Food was exactly what I expected it to be, having been to the LV outpost. I had no complaints, nor did my friend.

      I also enjoyed my meal at Bar Americain. But I was there when it first opened and some people have had recent complaints. It was good basic, but upscale comfort food. I had a very good boiled lobster in a vanilla/basil sauce that night - it was a special. Had to stop myself from drinking up all the broth.

      Bolo, his Spanish style restaurant is nice too. Haven't been there in many years tho, but do remember being very impressed with the meal.

      My feeling about him is that yes, he gets a lot of hype, but I don't think that his cooking itself is hype. When I eat at one of his places, I do feel that I am at a "Flay" restaurant. You'll have to judge yourself, if curious enough.

      Again, just my own opinion. I'm sure lots of other people will say otherwise :-)

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        Deb Van D RE: sivyaleah Jun 29, 2007 11:19 AM

        I agree with you and I like the three NY restaurants well enough, although I give the distinct edge to Bolo. The room was serene, the food strikingly good and the service was lovely.

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          RGR RE: Deb Van D Jun 29, 2007 09:40 PM

          Bolo serene? Not when we were there on a busy Friday night a couple of years ago. Not that it was uncomfortably noisy, but it certainly had an upbeat vibe. I thought the food was excellent and definitely deserving of the three stars it had just been awarded by Grimes in the "NY Times." We subsequently went for lunch, and it was packed.

          Haven't been to Mesa Grill in ages. As for Bar Americain, I've talked many times on this board about our sorely disappointing first -- and what will be our only -- meal there not long after it opened. It was quite expensive, and we left feeling rather ripped off.

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            Ora RE: RGR Jun 29, 2007 09:45 PM

            Here's a recent post on Bolo: http://www.chow.com/topics/407916?que...

      2. jinet12 RE: food for life Jun 30, 2007 03:32 PM

        Love Mesa Grill, especially for brunch

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          kam0424 RE: food for life Jul 2, 2007 06:49 AM

          LOVE Mesa's dessert tasting. I had a HORRIBLE restaurant week experience at bolo though. Everything we had was terrible.

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            G3B RE: food for life Jul 2, 2007 06:53 AM

            Have tried Mesa Grill, Bolo and Bar Americain each once and it was more than enough. Not a fan of his food. Most recent experience was Bar Americain and it was overexpensive and the food was very mediocre. Would avoid and choose something else.

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              nyccookie RE: food for life Jul 3, 2007 02:45 PM

              I have been to all 3 and love all of them for different reasons. Mesa Grill's brunch is so underrated. It's different at all places but the quality of food and big bold flavors stand out. And, they are really fun places to dine as well. Bolo is great for a neighborhood and cozy experience. Bar Americain is great for clients and the food has never been disappointing. NEVER. They all get top notch reviews in my book.

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                arvesta RE: food for life May 24, 2009 08:30 PM

                We love Bobby's Mesa Grill in Las Vegas and go there everytime we are in Vegas which is at least once a year. Great food and atmosphere. We planned a trip to New York and as we are big fans of his on Food Network, decided to try his Bar Amercain. Disappointed would not convey how we felt about our dinner. The meal was expensive and the worst we have had in a long time. From the drinks to the food not on par with his Mesa Grill in Vegas and CERTAINLY not what we expect of Bobby's food. I would definitely not make the effort the next time we find ourselves in New York. :0(

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                  conordog RE: food for life May 24, 2009 08:39 PM

                  mesa grill and bolo are a trainwreck imo. very few redeeming points. have not been to bar americain. his steakhouse in ac at the borgata is boo as well. i think i remember seeing something positive about one of his restaurants either in texas or santa fe nm. cant remember which it was. i would steer clear.

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                    RGR RE: food for life May 25, 2009 07:13 AM

                    This thread dates back two years. Since then, Bolo has closed. The one dinner and one lunch we had there were excellent.

                    Our one dinner at Bar Americain was one meal too many. Mediocre food at a very high cost.

                    We haven't been to Mesa Grill in ages (1990's) -- one dinner and one brunch. The food we had at dinner was delicious, but brunch was disappointing.

                    So, as you can see, our experiences at Flay's NYC restaurants have been decidedly mixed.

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                      steakrules85 RE: RGR May 25, 2009 06:45 PM

                      Mesa Grill in the Bahamas was pretty good... but with so many great dining options in the city I'd skip it.

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