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Ms Ghost Jun 26, 2007 03:34 PM

There is a family birthday coming up, and I've always had lots of cake recipes (amaretto being a fave) BUT this year there are some new dietary restrictions, and I'm at a loss. Cake can't have any chocolate, no dairy (though butter and eggs are o.k.) and no booze. Please help, Hounds, with a great cake I can make that doesn't have any of the "offending" ingredients!

  1. Kajikit Jun 26, 2007 03:37 PM

    A cake doesn't have to have milk in it... you can make any cake you like using fruit juice for the liquid. Apple juice won't affect the flavour at all, orange juice adds a faint hint of oranginess...

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      renz Jun 26, 2007 06:35 PM

      I've never baked a cake with milk in it. Chiffon cake is a good choice, since it's very moist and dairy-free. Most recipe use a tube pan, but I've baked it in a regular pan and sliced into layers with good results. And most buttercreams (esp. cooked Italian meringue) are dairy-free. You could also try a fruit-based filling, like lemon curd. Baking911 has a ton of websites and also good forums for getting advice on any questions. They're a lot more experiences than I am.

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      Old Spice Jun 26, 2007 08:44 PM

      As long as butter and eggs are okay, I'd say you're in pretty good shape. What about a pound cake? If you find a pound cake recipe that calls for any dairy other than butter, I'd say you've found something else, perhaps quite good, but not a pound cake. I prefer pound cake unadorned, or with a simple glaze. A powdered sugar sprinkling could give a decorative touch. Or fresh macerated berries, with the juice dripping down the cake. If you want a frosting, I'd go with something like a 7-Minute or other boiled white frosting, rather than a rich buttercream. For me, the cake's the star with pound cake, so the simpler the better.

      Renz suggests Baking911.com and it's a great resource. I love their coconut cake (Rick Rodgers recipe) and it fits your criteria.

      Homemade angel food cake (not even butter) is a far cry from the packaged stuff and lends itself to a lot of creativity. Slice into two or three layers and have fun with fillings. Lemon or lime curd. Fruit preserves. Make a fruit coulis and use a squeeze bottle for mustard or ketchup for decorative drizzling. Serve with a complementary sorbet. If you like amaretto, why not use almond extract in the cake batter to get the flavor without the alcohol?

      Finally, check out recipes for fresh apple cakes. There's a good one in "The New James Beard" and an even better one in "How To Cook A Pig," by Betty Talmadge (the second would need to be doubled...it's for an 8 x 8 square pan). (The difference is butter, although, if memory serves, Talmadge might say "shortening" and I just use butter...the book's at a friend's so I can't check.) Whatever, these are incredibly moist, delicious cakes that lend themselves to different glazes or frostings. And to your freelance hand with spices.

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        ginnyhw Jun 29, 2007 06:26 AM

        Home made angel food cakes are wonderful. I used to make one with my grandmother (a good midwestern baker) and she would use the leftover yolks to make an orange sauce (in a pan with butter and orange juice) to use on the leftover cake.
        I did not inherit her baking skills and rely on mixes. One of my favorite summer cakes is a poke cake that uses a lemon cake mix and lemon jello mix for the cake, and then when it's still hot in the pyrex pan, you poke holes in it and pour over a lemon juice and powdered sugar mixture. The fresh lemon juice masks that cake mix taste.

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          danna Jul 6, 2007 06:14 AM

          Interesting. I've never made a pound cake without milk.

        2. autmommy Jun 26, 2007 09:13 PM

          You should be able to make any cake, really - if you need milk, substitute soy milk, it works great. I'm surprised that the cake needs to be dairy free, yet you can use butter? Butter has both lactose and dairy protein, so that seems suspicious to me..however real butter will definately affect the flavor, so being able to use it is a good stroke of luck. Cakes are one of the easiest things to make when baking with dietary restrictions - Trust me..5+ years of baking with no gluten or dairy, and also trying to avoid soy at times...it can be challenging, but the restrictions you are working with shouldn't be too difficult.

          1. Emme Jun 27, 2007 12:49 AM

            This pear cake http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,,FOOD_9936_20788,00.html is great but I leave out the nuts personally.

            Take a loook at these too...
            http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,,FOOD_9936_34604,00.html?rsrc=search
            http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_12666,00.html
            http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recip...

            1. chowser Jun 27, 2007 04:24 AM

              Does no booze also mean no vanilla? It makes such a big difference having that. I've seen non-alcoholic vanilla at Trader Joe's but haven't tried it. Anyone?

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                autmommy Jul 13, 2007 12:25 PM

                I have used the alcohol free Frontier flavoring and it is fine, not like high quality vanilla, but great for people on really strict gluten free diets. also could use real vanilla bean scrapings, or vanilla powder (I think made by authentic foods) for alcohol free vanilla flavoring.

              2. bogachuka Jun 27, 2007 07:27 AM

                this ginger cake is a great summer cake: http://www.chow.com/recipes/10684 because you don't have to worry about frosting it and it's best simply served a la mode with your favorite ice cream.

                or, you could use up some summer stone fruit and make this upside-down cake: http://www.chow.com/recipes/10244 . just leave out the optional schnapps.

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                  amsnv Jun 28, 2007 11:43 PM

                  If you need a super-quick shortcut, pick a dairy-free cake mix (such as duncan hines) and add one 14 oz can pumpkin. Nothing else required, and it works pretty well with most flavors. Otherwise, try one of these...
                  http://www.godairyfree.org/Recipes/Dairy-Free-Desserts/Banana-Birthday-Cake-Dairy-Nut-Free-Soy-Free.html
                  http://www.godairyfree.org/Recipes/Dairy-Free-Desserts/Cardamom-Pear-Cake-Soy-Free.html
                  http://www.godairyfree.org/Recipes/Da...

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                    Amanita Jun 29, 2007 01:47 AM

                    Lots of Jewish cakes are pareve; that is, they contain no dairy products, so they can be eaten as a dessert to a meat meal without violating kosher dietary law. I have a good apple cake recipe using orange juice as the liquid.

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                      Ms Ghost Jun 29, 2007 06:09 AM

                      Thanks, Hounds, SO much! Am leaning toward either of the pear cake recipes (but possibly the one with cardamon--glad to find the dairyfree website, thanks!) or the ginger cake. I've always made Claudia Fleming's ginger cake, but that calls for Guinness Stout, so the suggested alternative would be perfect.

                      1. Tehama Jul 5, 2007 10:10 AM

                        Hi there... if you still need recipes, let me know. I found two that may help you in an OLD cookbook. One is "eggless-butterless cake" (it does not use milk, but does use mayo of all things and uses cocoa <same category as no chocolate in your post above?>) and the other is "eggless-milkless-butterless" cake.

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                          autmommy Jul 13, 2007 12:26 PM

                          Actually, one of my favorite cake recipes uses mayo. It works great for gluten free cakes, because they tend to get a bit dry or crumbly, and it helps them seem more moist or tender.

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                          nissenpa Jul 13, 2007 12:41 PM

                          Can I have the amaretto cake recipe? What type of frosting does it use?

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                            Ms Ghost Jul 14, 2007 12:36 PM

                            My link to the recipe didn't work so I'll try again:
                            http://www.recipegoldmine.com/cakespi...

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                            weezycom Jul 13, 2007 12:42 PM

                            My first thought was carrot cake with black walnuts. It's even better if you cook it the day before, as the walnut flavor really permeates the cake. I've usually made it with a penuche (like a peanut butter fudge) frosting, but it's been awhile and I can't remember if the penuche has dairy other than butter in it. Don't think so, though.

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                              Ms Ghost Jul 14, 2007 12:34 PM

                              Thanks to all of you for your help and suggestions. I ended up doing a raspberry cake that I found on the recipe goldmine site that started with a white cake mix that was dairy free. The rasberries have been so gorgeous it seemed a shame not to use them, and it was very pretty with the raspberry-pink frosting decorated with lots of fresh raspberries and mint leaves. Nissenpa, I'm going to try to link the recipe to the Amaretto Cakes. They are on the same site but listed under the "Spirited Cakes" section.

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                                nissenpa Jul 14, 2007 12:48 PM

                                Got it! thanks. I can see why this is a fave.

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