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  <id>415387</id>
  <title>best roti prata?</title>
  <published_at>Tue Jun 26 13:28:31 -0700 2007</published_at>
  <post_count>44</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>1</id>
    <name>San Francisco Bay Area</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>2696498</id>
        <content>the type that is totally layered and you have to pick at it to eat it. not something flat and one layered like naan.

i've had great roti prata at straits cafe. was just wondering what other places are good?

thanks.</content>
        <published_at>Tue Jun 26 13:28:31 -0700 2007</published_at>
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          <name>commuter_101</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2697651</id>
      <content>i love love love the roti prata at Banana Leaf (Milpitas). if you're ever there on the weekends you see the special roti chefs churning these out like there's no tomorrow!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 26 19:08:21 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2696498</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>108235</id>
        <name>atobiko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2697681</id>
      <content>Roti Canai at Singapore OTC in Dublin is great.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 26 19:22:56 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2696498</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>103870</id>
        <name>Fussy Foodie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2697949</id>
      <content>I enjoyed the Roti Canai at Banyan Garden in Union City.  You can see them making them in the kitchen through the window.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 26 21:11:41 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2696498</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>108259</id>
        <name>clarsen</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2700160</id>
      <content>Is the place in the shopping center on John Daly Blvd still there? Banana Island, I think it's called... what do people think of the roti canai there?

I've only been once, had soup as I was under the weather, but they had a special open kitchen area where the roti was made and it looked many-layered at the other tables I observed. I've been meaning to go back to investigate further.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 27 12:52:53 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2697949</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14494</id>
        <name>bernalgirl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2700783</id>
      <content>Roti prata was good, unfortunately they were out of murtabak on the day we went (a sunday).
They also had deserts made from roti prata (peanut butter, fruits etc stuffed in the roti prata &amp; folded to make pockets).</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 27 15:22:33 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2700160</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>24544</id>
        <name>rdabke</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2711015</id>
      <content>Can you describe the process the chefs use to make the roti? I had one in Singapore where the chef repeatedly slammed a ball of dough against a hot griddle until it was paper thin, then folded it up (actually, it was a murtabak, so he folded seasoned lamb and a raw egg into it). One of the best things I've had in my life, and for a while I was obsessed with murtabak, but I've had so many tough ones that I kind of gave up. But if Banyan Garden makes them with that process, I'm there.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jul 01 10:47:20 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2697949</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>44059</id>
        <name>daveena</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2704102</id>
      <content>I'm a fan of the roti prata at Shiok! in Menlo Park.  </content>
      <published_at>Thu Jun 28 14:05:08 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2696498</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>23725</id>
        <name>iOrderTheLamb</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2710490</id>
      <content>As crazy as it sounds, the best roti prata I've had is at the Coconut Grove in the Great Mall (http://www.coconutgrovemilpitas.com/), much much better then the one at Banana Leaf (although the Banana Leaf probably has better entrees).  If it didn't make me look like a pig I could order 10 orders of roti prata there and call it lunch.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jul 01 02:20:03 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2704102</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>109044</id>
        <name>Bunson</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2711019</id>
      <content>Have you had their murtabak (see explanation of my murtabak obsession above). I just looked at their online menu... looks like theirs is with beef.  Wish I could find one made with lamb.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jul 01 10:48:37 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2710490</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>44059</id>
        <name>daveena</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2711066</id>
      <content>I did get the roti murtabak once - it was made with ground beef and onion, decent but didn't blow me away.  I would have been better off with two orders of the prata, which alone is why I go back there.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jul 01 11:19:49 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2711019</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>109044</id>
        <name>Bunson</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2712931</id>
      <content>Daveena
Being a fan of Murtabak myself, I completely understand your obsession. When In Singapore, I have been multiple times to Zam Zam solely to eat the Murtabak. IMHO, there is nothing like the murtabak that you get there. I have had multiple including the one in Coconut grove, Banana *, Penang * etc. but nothing like the one in Singapore. perhaps the one that comes closest is the one available at Straits Cafe in SF.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 02 09:13:32 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2711019</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>24544</id>
        <name>rdabke</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>2714695</id>
      <content>Interesting - I tried a bunch of places in the South Bay and came to a similar conclusion (Straits in Burlingame won - I haven't tried Straits in SF).

Link to my original murtabak post, before I hijack this thread any further:
http://www.chow.com/topics/331663</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 02 18:01:26 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2712931</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>44059</id>
        <name>daveena</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>2714930</id>
      <content>the former Straits chef is now at Lime Tree making really good murtabak for the half the price.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 02 19:30:43 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2714695</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>52212</id>
        <name>Lori SF</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>2717003</id>
      <content>Now we just need some stalls where we can get it fresh after midnight.  It always is best in Singapore when you've been out all night on the town and need something to stick to your gut!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jul 03 12:58:49 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2712931</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>103389</id>
        <name>grinch</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2711027</id>
      <content>http://www.chow.com/topics/347001</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jul 01 10:51:45 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2696498</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11369</id>
        <name>Robert Lauriston</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2711119</id>
      <content>I heard Lime Tree on Irving (Inner Sunset) makes a very good one and half the price of Sraits Cafe.  I have walked by this place a few times before I realized it was a restaurant, so it easy to miss.  I am going to check it out this week.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jul 01 11:46:59 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2696498</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>52212</id>
        <name>Lori SF</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2711435</id>
      <content>I had lunch at Lime Tree couple of days ago. The roti and murtabak were very good.
</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jul 01 15:08:14 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2711119</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11386</id>
        <name>svL</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2711975</id>
      <content>we finally went tonight and the Roti and several other dished were excellent.. the owner is from Straits and so nice.. Irving Street can use a good simple place.. and so cheap..my goodness a dinner for two 23.00 and we ate well. </content>
      <published_at>Sun Jul 01 20:19:47 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2711435</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>52212</id>
        <name>Lori SF</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2726821</id>
      <content>wanted to add the link, just realized this feature</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jul 07 06:37:27 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2711975</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>52212</id>
        <name>Lori SF</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2713389</id>
      <content>I second Lime Tree on Iriving and 5th Ave in SF.  The roti is under $3, and they serve it with a curry type dipping sauce.  A really great deal for the quality, highly recommended.

Here's one off the radar:  Rin's Thai on 24th and Douglass (Noe Valley) also has a nice roti prata, but the twist is that it's grilled.  That gives it a light smokey essence, but yet still produces a crisp exterior and chewy layered interior.  A bit on the expensive side at around $6, but they also serve it with a side of delicious peanut dipping sauce which you can also use with your rice.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 02 11:11:43 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2696498</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17028</id>
        <name>John Doe</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2713666</id>
      <content>So the prata is the thicker, more like a thick parantha and roti canai is the very thin crispy/chewy one, correct?  I think these are two different rotis- I definitely love roti canai more than the thicker variant. Several of the posters are recommending roti canai, which might not be what is being described by the OP?</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 02 12:22:00 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2696498</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2713711</id>
      <content>I believe they're two names for the same general type of flatbread, which under either name can be either thick or thin, layered or not, depending on the cook.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 02 12:36:00 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2713666</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11369</id>
        <name>Robert Lauriston</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2714303</id>
      <content>I just found this blog post about the two- says "canai" is what they call it in Malaysia and "prata" is more the Singaporean name for it.  I do know the Straits version is thicker for sure.

http://albertmah.multiply.com/journal/item/16</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 02 15:25:59 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2713711</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2718324</id>
      <content>Langkawi in Foster City serves both a thin and thick Roti Prata. Both are better, in my opinion, than the Straits (Burlingame) rendition.

I revisited last week and have been daydreaming about the place ever since. Excellent Singaporean/Malaysian food, friendly and attentive service, slightly kitschy tropical beach ambiance complete with fishtank. It's a fun place.

A bit off-topic from the OP, but I was very pleased to find sauteed kangkung  (aka pak boong, ong choy, water convolvus, morning glory) with garlic on the menu here - this is one of my very favorite dishes, ever since a memorable introduction in Thailand.

Langkawi
2946 S. Norfolk St
San Mateo, CA 94403
650-349-1688</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jul 03 21:37:44 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2696498</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>22016</id>
        <name>Pincho</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3001898</id>
      <content>I was just thinking of Langkawi.  We ordered it the last time (few weeks ago) and it was really good and fun to eat.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 03 17:15:46 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2718324</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13103</id>
        <name>Foodrat</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2726089</id>
      <content>Here's my photo of a great version of roti canai, in the Napa Valley, of all places!
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/207/499037267_36c622bf58_o.jpg</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jul 06 18:47:32 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2696498</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10039</id>
        <name>Melanie Wong</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2726173</id>
      <content>Melanie,
where did you get that roti canai?  I'd like to try it no matter how far.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jul 06 19:23:42 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2726089</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10677</id>
        <name>hhc</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2726396</id>
      <content>Jayakarta in Berkeley has roti that looks just like Melanie's picture.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jul 06 21:32:08 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2726173</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11940</id>
        <name>DezzerSF</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2755955</id>
      <content>China Chef in American Canyon, http://www.chowhound.com/topics/400097</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 16 20:17:13 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2726173</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10039</id>
        <name>Melanie Wong</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2726266</id>
      <content>I do know Banana Leaf and Spice Islands have just that kind. Not sure if they are as good, but I love balance of the crispy and chewy in the thin, plus of course the curry to scoop up.  </content>
      <published_at>Fri Jul 06 20:19:44 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2726089</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2771179</id>
      <content>I'm lived in Singapore, if I have cravings for Roti Prata or any other Singapore dishes. I head down to Shiok at Menlo Park. Lovely old couple from Singapore runs this place, you won't regret it.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jul 21 15:27:13 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2696498</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>113418</id>
        <name>f0rumm3r</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3001828</id>
      <content>Hey Roti lover friends

I have been to Banana Leaf- excellent yes but not a cheap meal.

Also as listed Spice Islands Cafe in Mt View is excellent a little cheaper and also has an extra thick roti you can buy.

Against my better judgment I went to red Kwali which is by Banana Leaf and loved it.  Similar to Nanas menu but much cheaper.  they have roti cheaper and here is the kick THEY TOLD ME TO BUY MY 'PRATA' (that is what the package says) AT OCEAN SUPER MARKET (typical Asian store) IN MILPITAS ON CALAVERAS AND PARK VICTORIA YOU CAN BUY 6 FOR .99 CENTS AND ALL YOU DO IS ADD IT TO A NON STICK PAN AND WARM UNTIL DESIRED TENDERNESS.
Thanks!
g</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 03 16:56:35 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2696498</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>132018</id>
        <name>glorente</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3002195</id>
      <content>Hi fellow roti loving hounds. That is a kick! When you find out the brand, please do tell us! Then we can find it, hopefully, closer to our homes.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 03 18:56:45 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>3001828</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10025</id>
        <name>elise h</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3004109</id>
      <content>Nah, packaged is never as good as freshly made in front of your eyes with fresh ingredients. I will pass!!!</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 04 10:17:58 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>3002195</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>24544</id>
        <name>rdabke</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3004660</id>
      <content>That's true.  But since most of the roti offered in our local restaurants is frozen and not fresh, I'd rather buy them from the market to prepare at home.  Would love to hear other brand recs.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 04 12:00:18 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>3004109</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10039</id>
        <name>Melanie Wong</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3004962</id>
      <content>Banana Leaf, Banana garden all make it fresh...right in front of your eyes. Other places may be making it from frozen &amp; they deserve fewer customers! No store brough brands here!</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 04 13:03:17 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>3004660</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>24544</id>
        <name>rdabke</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3052932</id>
      <content>Yellow Ginger in Mountain View (previously Baba Neo) has more-than-one-layer Roti Canai.  Not sure if it is made in the restaurant, but it is more decent than other restaurants I have tried.  Food at Yellow Ginger is good, but the hawker food is not so authentic.  I would give it a second chance though.

I made some from Roti Canai fresh frozen dough (as suppose to cooked frozen) bought from Burmese home business in Daly City.  They also sell Murtabak.  Quite decent.  If there's interest, I can post the info I have.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 20 17:22:09 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2696498</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>41247</id>
        <name>tcube</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3052992</id>
      <content>Pleas share and post!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 20 17:55:42 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>3052932</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10025</id>
        <name>elise h</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3054609</id>
      <content>Yes, there's lots of interest!!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Oct 21 16:03:50 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>3052932</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13401</id>
        <name>jmarek</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3057087</id>
      <content>Pls post info, can't wait to try their Murtabak!</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 22 14:07:16 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>3052932</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>24544</id>
        <name>rdabke</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3147088</id>
      <content>Hi,

I am sorry for the late response.  Not a frequenter of Chowhound.  Here is the information.  Please call before you go.  If you can speak Cantonese, that will make the interaction better :)  Enjoy!

Than-Than Whin
6507562832
180 Willits
Daly City, CA</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 21 20:44:44 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>3057087</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>41247</id>
        <name>tcube</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3741361</id>
      <content>I realize this is an old post, but I thought the east bay was sorely under-represented. OK, the best roti prata I ever had was at an Indonesian place on Geary (across from the bridge theater, if anyone remembers the place, it's not there anymore). It was thick, flaky, sweet and came with a sauce that was a like a curry/stew. It was a hugely filling meal.    
I recently tried the roti prata at Kopiti'am in Lafayette and I have to say, this Singaporean restaurant's version was very different from the Indonesian version, but delicious. It was more like an appetizer or side dish. Flat, not thick, but very flaky and nicely sweet and very delicious. the sauce was thinner and spicier, but delicious as well. They also had roti with peanut butter and other things so it would be more of a snack/dessert.

Here's a link to another chowhound discussion about the place
http://www.chowhound.com/topics/423588 </content>
      <published_at>Mon Jun 02 09:08:55 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2696498</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12500</id>
        <name>redheadsara</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3743298</id>
      <content>Funny, I was just thinking about this thread  :)

I had my best roti prata (or balada, in Burmese) in the Bay Area yesterday at Mingalaba in Burlingame - they don't make it in house, but it had the crisp on the outer layers, chewy/tender/flaky on the inner layers texture of the hand made paratha I had from street vendors in Madurai.  It came with both a coconut curry sauce, and a potato curry.  Significantly better than the same dish at its sister restaurant, Mandalay, in SF.

While I found Kopitiam's roti prata a little too insubstantial and chip-like, their sauce is the best I've ever tasted - darker than most, with what I thought were peanut and chocolate undertones.  Sounds weird, tasted great. </content>
      <published_at>Mon Jun 02 18:20:43 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3741361</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>44059</id>
        <name>daveena</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
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      <content>Another place with roti is Broadway Bistro in Millbrae. Served with curry sauce as well. </content>
      <published_at>Mon Jun 02 22:05:17 -0700 2008</published_at>
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        <name>peppatty</name>
      </user>
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