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"New York-style" Chinese food in... New York?

I'll turn the tables here. Expat New Yorkers in the SF Bay area are constantly craving what they consider "New York-style" Chinese food. Help me out, here. Point me to a Chinese restaurant in New York that's frozen in time and exemplifies what you are jonesing for.

On a not unrelated note, where would a good Jewish family go for Chinese on Sunday night these days?

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  1. Never heard of ny style chinese food. If you want really americanized chinese food in a really old restaurant, try wo hop (opened since 1938). It's devoid of any asian customers, yet its located in chinatown. The place is quite popular with cops. You can also try charlie mom opened since 1983 near nyu. Too bad jade mountain closed as its another of these frozen in time places.

    Chinatown is open late week long so you can drop by sunday nights . For a place popular with asians and non asians, try ny noodletown. anything salt baked is good.

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    1. re: randumbposter

      Joined some friends recently for dinner at Wo Hop. This was not the post-bar wee hours (when many hounds seem to wind up here) but around 7 on a weeknight. The crowd was heavily Asian, including many families. They appeared to be ordering Cantonese dishes that didn't look especially Americanized.

      Pea shoots with garlic turned up on most tables. We got them too, and they were just fine, best thing we had. Other dishes were competent, middle-of-the-pack Cantonese, in some cases prepped or cooked carelessly. A steamed whole fish with ginger, scallions and cilantro came out slightly overdone, as did another fish dish. Don't recall details of the rest of our meal, but over all it was neither terrible nor memorable.

      1. re: squid kun

        wo hop underground with the shiny red brick on mott street? I think they have one above ground too which may be the more asian one. There's even a wikipedia article on it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wo_Hop . The food is not the best but sometimes I get cravings for trashy chinese food.

      2. re: randumbposter

        One characteristic that gets mentioned often on the LA board is the large NY-style eggroll with the blistered skin. Frankly this is getting hard to find even in NY, but any place that has it might be what Gary's looking for...

      3. Hi Gary. There was a thread about this not too long ago and I thought that the conclusion was that most of this kind of food was outside of Manhattan. Actually the question about New York style Chinese food comes up much more often on the LA board than the SF board. I wonder if the mods would let you post a link to this thread on the LA board.

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        1. this is the place you are looking for

          Golden Gate Chinese Restaurant
          3550 Johnson Ave, Bronx, NY
          (718) 549-6206

          do a search on it and you will find a blog with a review and awesome pics of the food and the place. i've never been but it is exactly like the place i went to sunday nights growing up

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          1. re: NYCnowLA

            yes, golden gate, in riverdale is great- my jewish family and many others in the neighborhood all grew up going there (and still do). been there forever, hasn't changed much since it had a fire and was re-done in the mid-80s. good combination plates & lunch specials too, fyi. some of my favorite dishes there are their lobster cantonese, some delish shrimp dishes (try the gaw den ha lok (sp? i think), and the sizzling go ba (mix of everything!) their friend rice is great and their spareribs have probably my favorite flavor of any i've ever had.

            as for in manhattan, hmmm ollie's is pretty reliable, americanized, and i love their steamed veggie dumplings especially. the 84th & b'way one if my favorite. not sure if that's what you are looking for... or something like silk road?

            1. re: mlt9

              hunan park on columbus and w73? shun lee near broadway and (maybe) w63?
              after reading the post carefully and thinking about it, i think i know what you mean.
              i don't think silk road and ollies will fit the bill. definitely not ollies. i could be totally wrong though. i'm on the hedge even about the places i've recommended. i agree it may be best to go up to riverdale. i think they are more likely to have the type of place you are looking for.

              1. re: nativeNYer

                You're right that it wouldn't be Ollie's--that's too recent and too authentic. You need a place that's probably been open 30 to 40 years or more.

                1. re: Chandavkl

                  Try Shun Lee across from Lincoln Center

                  1. re: idia

                    69 Bayard Street, Chinatown NYC

              2. re: mlt9

                Big ditto on Golden Gate (except for their fried rice, which has never done it for me), and would like to add that even if you're not into the whole 50's Cantonese thing, their spareribs are worth a trip in and of themselves. Beware though - the menu has some recent additions ("recent" meaning added within the last 20 years or so) like dumplings, scallion pancake, etc., which should NOT be ordered. Stick to the old school selections, and you'll get the "real" deal.

              3. re: NYCnowLA

                I concur. This is exactly what you're looking for.

                1. re: Peter Cherches

                  My one trip to King Yum, on Union Turnpike in Queens, really took me for a ride back in time. I had forgotten all about wontons shaped in that way, like a nicely tied bow, the tiki style bar, the fried rice heaped in a pike on that metal server, the pu pu platter, the intercom system, the phone booth near the entrance, the waiters' uniforms complete with red bolero style jackets and black bow ties, and, of course, the complimentary ice cream dessert. Yeah,everything pretty much made it for me. Except the food, which I and my two dining companions found to be bland, near tasteless and, in the case of the fried rice, downright stale tasting. Like I said, though, it was like walking into a time warp. Jason Perlow's excellent review -one of the most enjoyable I've yet read on the web - is just tantalizing enough to justify giving the place another go round:
                  http://offthebroiler.wordpress.com/20...
                  P.

                  1. re: Polecat

                    I think you need to know what to order there. I like the egg rolls and the spare ribs, and their won ton soup is excellent. There are also better hours to go than others. Off Hours they don't have their better chefs working there. The fried rice (and everything in general) is good when you go during high turnover hours when the place is very busy, like a friday or saturday night.

                    1. re: OffTheBroiler

                      King Yum is the answer for Gary Soup. I have been there more times then I can count over the the last twenty years and have always enjoyed the food. It has barely changed in decades and,some of what they do is delicious. Certainly part of the fun is having my 10 year old daughter sit in the same booth and order the same food as her mother did thirty years ago, but bottom line is, the food tastes good.

                      1. re: stuartlafonda

                        Fair enough, guys. I'll give it another go. P.

                        1. re: Polecat

                          my friend returns from the caribbean a week from tomorrow. for years, she has been taking her 'good jewish family' to the type of restaurant you are seeking. i agree the food isn't always fabulous but i should have other options for you in one week.

                2. Six Happiness on the Upper East Side. AWESOME!