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the best SANDWICH in (San Francisco) period.

Rina Jun 22, 2007 11:44 AM

Who has ultimately eaten the great sandwich? Where does SF have sandwiches that are stacked mile high with roast beef or pastrami?
Any tasty accompanying spreads or mouth-watering condiments that makes one crave for more...
Any secret garlic sauces or homemade spreads that really compliment add the synergistic effect, where the end product is much greater than the sum of the two pieces of bread + whatever your heart desires to be put in between.

I am simply asking fellow SF chowhounds for your favorite rec for SANDWICHES....

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    local_guy RE: Rina Jun 22, 2007 12:06 PM

    You sound like an ex-pat NYer. Go to Brothers Deli in San Bruno or San Mateo. My wife is a Brooklyn/Jersey girl and when we lived in SF she had the same complaint. Ben Braun, the Cal basketball coach has been known to eat there and the guy can eat.

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      Agent 510 RE: local_guy Jun 22, 2007 12:17 PM

      My recommendation for a good sandwich of the mile-high but still good-tasting variety: Giordano's "all-in-one" sandwich on Columbus in North Beach. The fries are crispy and peppery as is the coleslaw...you'd think fries and slaw on a sandwich is a taste-be-damned drunk-at-3am kind of thing, but it's quite delicious and very much the opposite of that.

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        P. Punko RE: Agent 510 Jul 3, 2007 04:40 PM

        Giordano's is a Pittsburgh tradition- I'm not sure how many places serve this style, but there is one here, one in Pittsburgh and one in Ft. Lauderdale (pretty random!)

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          amyvc RE: P. Punko Aug 3, 2007 03:10 PM

          I'll be in SF tomorrow, so may try Giordano's on a stroll thru North Beach. Any idea where the one in Ft Lauderdale is, since I'm from Laudy? I've done a search on CH but so far, no luck. thanks

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            Norm Man RE: P. Punko Mar 9, 2008 10:44 PM


            Giordano's is a knock off of Primanti Brothers of Pittsburgh and Primanti Brothers has two locations in the Fort Lauderdale area. I've been to Primanti Brothers in Fort Lauderdale and it's as good as the original in Pittsburgh.

            Scroll to the bottom of the page for the Fort Lauderdale locations of Primanti Brothers.

            I don't believe Giordano's has locations in Pittsburgh or Fort Lauderdale.

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              amyvc RE: Norm Man Oct 18, 2008 06:01 AM

              Thanks Norm Man! Just got back onto chow after a terrible bout of pregnancy...LQTM...

              Anyway, unbeknownst to me, DH has discovered primanti in Ft Laudy and is in heaven. Thanks so much! Giordano's was still awesome by the way.

      2. GreenLightJerky RE: Rina Jun 22, 2007 12:18 PM

        Brothers is great.
        Also check out Max's Diner they have great pastrami and its always piled high. The corn beef is off the hook too!

        1. rworange RE: Rina Jun 22, 2007 12:25 PM

          You might be the first to try Town's End Hobbs’” Carnegie Deli” pastrami, served hot on house-made sour rye, with potato carrot pancakes. Please report back if you do.

          Are you just looking for corned beef and pastrami?

          Would the great in-season soft-shell crab on sourdough sandwich that Hayes Street Grill sells at the Saturday Ferry Plaza Market be something you'd be interested in?

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            mlucier RE: Rina Jun 22, 2007 12:37 PM

            Marina Subs on Union (at Steiner?) BY FAR the best sandwich I've ever had. Of course, I'm a little biased cause I grew up eating them... ask any native San Franciscan, they're probably familiar with the place. They owner/sandwich maker is a little obsessive compulsive about how he makes them, but that's what makes them so good. They're just the right amount of toasted, melted cheese, then he adds the cold ingredients and then the SAUCE! The heavenly drippy tasty sauce that makes the whole sandwich. I usualy get the regular sub, but he's got all sorts of combinations. Be prepared to wait in line, there's always a line, but well worth it. I think he closes around 3pm too.

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              rumorsofsurf RE: Rina Jun 22, 2007 02:17 PM

              My votes would be for Morty's Deli in the Tenderloin for good east-coast style pastrami and/or chicken parm, etc. - www.mortysdeli.com - and AK Meats for the Die's Decadence in the Outer Richmond (combination butcher & sandwich shop) - http://www.yelp.com/biz/E60m-4IPYWZog...

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                ML8000 RE: Rina Jun 22, 2007 04:39 PM

                Ted's Market on Howard near 10th. No sit down, stand in a line, hole-in-the-wall-ish and yet excellent sandwiches... turkey and avocado, poor boy (really an Italian combo), the Rich Boy and fresh roast pork. Not east coast but if you want good and inexpensive (around $5 usually) this is the place. Lunch time rush - 40 people in line but it moves fast. Use to work around there a long time ago...just happened upon it again. Still excellent.

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                  wanderlust21 RE: Rina Jun 22, 2007 05:27 PM

                  I agree that the Giordano's sandwiches are interesting and very tasty.

                  My favorite is Saigon Sandwich Shop for their Banh Mi. I ask for a combo of roast pork and meatball (it's pork too), it comes on freshly toasted baguette with mayo and filled with cilantro, jalepeno, a vinegary slaw of I forget what. Second choice would be the sandwiches at Memphis Minnie's, the little star is half beef brisket and half pork. They do a pastrami sandwich on Wednesdays.

                  As for pastrami, I usually skip that in SF. I love fatty meat. Miller's is decent, though I haven't been in a long time. For italian style deli sandwiches, I like Molinari's or Genova's (in Berkeley). I've had the roast beef and the pastrami at Genova's and they are good.

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                    jbsirkin RE: wanderlust21 Jun 23, 2007 02:01 AM

                    i second saigon sandwich- warm toasted baguette with roast chicken and asian pickled carrot, onion, chile and cilantro. What - it's only $2.50?!?! Who would have thought heaven was so inexpensive....

                    as for pastrami/cornbeef... no one's mentioned East Coast West yet. Is their's no good? some NY guy told me it was pretty close when I said I couldn't find a good deli.

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                      Chris Rising RE: jbsirkin Jun 25, 2007 01:23 PM

                      Third Saigon. For an overstuffed pastrami I go to Golden Gate Butcher in the Ferry Building. I'm pretty sure they serve it on a fresh Acme baugette, so it simple meat and bread deliciousness.

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                        Lori SF RE: Chris Rising Jun 25, 2007 02:01 PM

                        yep Saigon you can't beat.

                        Mario's cigar bar in North Beach has made good sandwiches, the last time i was there I was rather disappointed, I will try again because they have been great in the past.

                        Delessio Market and Bakery on Market makes good pressed style sandwiches.

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                          grubber4 RE: Lori SF Jun 25, 2007 03:37 PM

                          Saigon is easily beaten by Sing Sing if you have the courage to go in. They have the best vietnamese sandwich in the City. Hyde between Eddy and Ellis

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                            Lori SF RE: grubber4 Jun 25, 2007 03:39 PM

                            Sing Sing what a name? I will check it out thanks

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                    virtualguthrie RE: Rina Jun 22, 2007 05:35 PM

                    I like Moishe's Pippic in Hayes Valley (hayes & gough). The best pastrami that I've been able to find in the city, definitely piled high. On Friday's they have a smoked brisket, I like to do a half brisket and half pastrami (not on the menu), the owner looks at me funny every time I order it but he still makes it and damn if it isn't good. Simple preparation but very high quality stuff, the place has a Chicago theme goin' on.

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                      NickADD RE: virtualguthrie Nov 17, 2009 11:00 PM

                      1 more vote for Moishe's on Hayes Street!

                    2. Steve Green RE: Rina Jun 22, 2007 06:44 PM

                      Yes, I know the OP specified San Francisco, but Little Lucca in South San Francisco still deserves a mention. Great garlic pesto sauce and dutch crunch rolls, low prices.
                      724 El Camino Real, South San Francisco

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                        ML8000 RE: Steve Green Jun 22, 2007 07:04 PM

                        Little Lucca is excellent..and the regular sandwich is enough to feed two people (and not be hungry) and it's still a bargain.

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                          Scrapironchef RE: Steve Green Jun 25, 2007 02:04 PM

                          Also worth trying if you are out that way is Darby Dan's. Interesting sandwiches, breads and spreads.

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                          Nancy Berry RE: Rina Jun 22, 2007 10:14 PM

                          Roxie's on San Jose near the Ingleside Police Station makes GREAT sandwiches. Get the Roxie Special, a terrific sub, grilled so that the cheese melts, the meats warm up, and the roll crisps. Or the meatball sub with melted cheese. Delicious!

                          Roxie Food Center
                          1901 San Jose Ave
                          (between Havelock St & Santa Ynez Ave)
                          San Francisco, CA 94112
                          (415) 587-2345

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                            adrienne156 RE: Nancy Berry Jun 23, 2007 10:15 AM

                            I would offer to pick up my friend after her classes ended at SF city (from the east bay) just so we could stop at Roxie's on the way home. I don't know if it's "the best", but they do make awesome sandwiches.

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                              osho RE: adrienne156 Mar 8, 2008 05:59 PM

                              My wife (east coast transplant) was craving a proper sandwich. Turned to trusty chowhound, and made the trip to Balboa Park, per this earlier rec from Nancy and Adrienne.

                              Just an absolute gem. I recommend getting the Roxie Special - Ham, Mortadella, Artichoke, Swiss Cheese, and of course I had to have it with everything on it.

                              I dare say this is *the* best sandwich I have had in the city, and yes I have eaten a lot of them at the Sub Center in West Portal, the sub place on 24th St when we lived in Noe Valley, and a few more ....

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                                AthleticsRock16 RE: osho Apr 28, 2008 08:02 PM

                                Roxie is the best, by far. Went to high school up the street, so I ate there at least once a week. Meatball sub, dutch crunch, provolone cheese. Unbeatable.

                          2. ccbweb RE: Rina Jun 22, 2007 11:07 PM

                            The Submarine Center in West Portal. They have "The Atomic" which is turkey, corned beef and pastrami with provolone, lettuce, tomtao, onion, mayo, mustard and jalapenos. All lightly toasted and warmed in the flat deck oven. Delicious.

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                              Lori SF RE: ccbweb Jun 25, 2007 01:54 PM

                              wow this subject always is interesting. I know others like The west portal sub place but I thought it was the worst...i feel you could go to the safeway and have the same thing.

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                                rworange RE: Lori SF Jun 25, 2007 03:12 PM

                                I'm another fan of The Submarine Center in West Portal.

                                There is not one special thing about the sandwiches

                                All subs served with lettuce, tomatoes, onions & secret sauce. Three sizes: mini / center / super.

                                The French roll is ordinary, the cold cuts no better than what a supermarket deli slices up, the lettuce shredded iceberg, the tomatoes are as far away from heirloom as possible and the special sauce is only house vinaigrette.

                                Sometimes there are a few bites of bread left without filling.

                                It is the best sub in San Francisco.

                                Magic happens when that sandwich goes in the oven.

                                There's pure art with the cheese melted exactly right and the roll soft, warm and crunchy. It is about the whole sandwich, not the parts.

                                It must be devoured immediately before the crispy toasty, oozy-cheesy perfection is gone.

                                They are happy to customize to your satisfaction.

                                Nice family owned store and a staff who has been there forever and are sandwich masters.

                                They even elevate the soft drink with the perfect finely crushed ice.

                                There's nothing fancy. The menu never changes.

                                It's no Wichcraft. It was here long before that and hopefully will be here long after people forget the name of the trendy sandwich shop of the moment.

                                The decor makes Subway and Quiznos look upscale. With a LOT of luck there is parking in the lot behind the restaurants across the street.

                                Forget the parking. I would make the pilgrimage to Submarine Center on my knees.

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                                  Lori SF RE: rworange Jun 25, 2007 03:20 PM

                                  rworange please please promise that when you go to santa barbara go to Tino's Italian Market and get a sub.. this is my measuring point of a good sub which started when I was 6 yrs. old when my father took me there...you will not be disappointed.. I would make a day trip up there from LA just to get my fix.

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                                    ccbweb RE: rworange Jun 25, 2007 06:02 PM

                                    The Submarine Center is a lesson in turnover. There was a place called Little John's in Charlottesville, VA that worked the same way. They don't buy the top end of pretty much anything but they do so much business that everything is always fresh. And they put it all together in the right proportions.

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                                      Rina RE: rworange Jul 3, 2007 01:46 AM

                                      thanks for this posting, I did in fact enjoy the sandwiches ( i had 3) at Submarine Ctr. You are right about a plain jane sandwich with ordinary fixings, but magic happens after it is removed from the baker's pride oven. Indeed a toasty bun increases the satisfaction of an already delicious sandwich.
                                      De ja vu occured when I when to visit the Marina Sub on Union st. it appeared that the sandwiches and fixings appear to be identical, even the way they fan out the wilted lettuce on the bottom of the hotel pan for the meat and cheese display. The decor almost resembles each other, even the Baker's Pride deck oven is the same brand. Not certain about the bread, though.

                                2. mehunt RE: Rina Jun 25, 2007 01:43 PM

                                  Definitely May's Sandwiches on 14th at Market. Once you know the rules about ordering, you'll get a fab sandwich for a fab price! Made with May's loving hands, you WILL get a stack of pastrami that comes up the here, but you MUST tell her which bread first. It's worth it. Plus you get a cookie.

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                                    Lori SF RE: mehunt Jun 25, 2007 02:01 PM

                                    that place is pretty good for a real honest sandwich

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                                      ChowFun_derek RE: mehunt Mar 9, 2008 11:57 AM

                                      "LOVING HANDS"!!!... hands maybe!...but what a disproving, wilting stare and mouth to boot if you dare not familiarize yourself in advance, in how and what to order when it is your turn...she can make the famed "Soup Nazi" seem like a Disney cartoon!

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                                        sfeater RE: ChowFun_derek Mar 10, 2008 11:51 AM

                                        is may's ever open?

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                                          johnrsf RE: sfeater Nov 16, 2009 10:34 PM

                                          May's re-opened this past summer after being closed for almost two years. Judy and May were bored with retirement. Judy is making the sandwiches these days, with May at the register. Judy doesn't really enforce the "bread first" rule, and she chats with her regulars, which keeps the line long and slow. Be prepared to wait. Their pastrami sandwich is very generous, made with warm (heated in a rice cooker), fatty pastrami. Most people there order it with cheese, lettuce, tomatoes and other fixings that a deli purist would be disgusted by, but you can get it on rye with mustard. My personal favorites are the egg and tuna combo and their home-roasted rare roast beef. A half a sandwich (with two full pieces of bread) is plenty, unless you have someone to share it with or you want to sleep away the afternoon.

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                                            Joe_Dro RE: johnrsf Nov 19, 2009 11:22 PM

                                            May's has the best chicken salad. I get it on Dark rye with Jack cheese and avocado which makes it a mammoth triple decker. Always worth the wait.

                                    2. celeste RE: Rina Jun 25, 2007 03:47 PM

                                      I like Yellow Submarine in the Inner Sunset. I don't like Subway-style submarine sandwiches, but Yellow Submarine just does something special. I love the steak and cheese.

                                      Also a second vote for May's for the hot pastrami or corned beef. The prices are very low here too.

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                                        DavidT RE: Rina Jul 3, 2007 09:55 AM

                                        Little Lucca Deli (El Camino, South SF) is the ultimate sandwich shop. If you have never beeen there, go TODAY!!!

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                                          DavidT RE: DavidT Jul 3, 2007 07:22 PM

                                          I did forget to mention that the famous garlic sauce at Little Lucca is what makes their sandwiches so good.

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                                            comedor RE: DavidT Nov 14, 2008 03:01 AM

                                            So happy to see Little Lucca listed here! I don't have the perspective needed to declare it "the best," but I'll be back! I stopped in totally by chance and was pleasantly surprised even beyond the expectations I formed while I was there watching them do their thing. (Went to the Burlingame store). Also liked their potato salad. (Didn't particularly care for the dill pickle.) This place, plus Shanghai Dumpling shop made a recent business stay in Millbrae worthwhile!

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                                          WC2HLondon RE: Rina Jul 3, 2007 11:56 AM

                                          No, no, no. The best sandwich is in the least likely place. Pete's BBQ on Mission and 19th (or is it 20th?). Even then there is only one sandwich to get... the Turkey Sandwich. Meat sliced directly off the roasted bird onto toasted bread (you can have all white meat or all dark meat or of course some of both) with mayo, sliced tomatoes, lettuce, salt and pepper, and, best of all, some of the roasted Turkey skin. Mmmmmmmm. Heaven. Very old fashioned, but big and fresh and tasty. I used to live near there from 1981 until 2001. In 2005 I returned to SF and went there before Jardiniere, Zuni, Gary Danko, and Fleur de Lys and I happy to report that in all that time NOTHING has changed about the way the sandwich is made. The side dishes are mediocre but I'd recommend the tomato salad. Everyone should know about this. If anyone goes, let me know what you think.

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                                            rworange RE: WC2HLondon Jul 3, 2007 12:18 PM

                                            Thanks for what sounds like a great tip.

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                                              Cynsa RE: rworange Aug 4, 2007 12:47 AM

                                              another turkey sand: at Arguello Market; I request all-dark meat on a Dutch Crunch roll - sliced fresh and hot off the rotiserie, salt and pepper, cranberry sauce.
                                              Arguello Market at 782 Arguello @ Cabrillo

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                                              Chuckles the Clone RE: WC2HLondon Jul 4, 2007 12:20 AM

                                              Is Pete's still there!!?! It's been years, I'd almost forgotten about Pete. NE
                                              corner of Mission and 20th. The turkey sandwich is great but hard to order because
                                              ordering the sandwich means you can't get a half rotisserie chicken with a baked
                                              potato roasted in the dripping chicken fat. I used to live near there too. I'm probably
                                              going to die a year or two earlier as a result. I mean that in a good way.

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                                              sfkusinera RE: Rina Jul 3, 2007 11:51 PM

                                              Roxie's and West Portal Sub Center. Ok, now I know what I want to eat this week!

                                              There's a certain way my friends who are SF natives from the Excelsior, Bernal Heights, and Mission neighborhoods say "Roxie's." Their eyes roll back into their heads and it comes out breathy, almost worshipful. When I moved to SF many years ago my friends took me to Sub Center and Roxies for true SF experiences, and regaled me with stories of eating these sandwiches while waiting for the bus to Balboa High School, or while going to Catholic school in the Sunset. Perhaps not the most innovative sandwiches in the city, but certainly they are the stuff of great childhood memories of many generations of San Francisco natives. And yes, there is magic in them ovens over at Sub Center.

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                                                Rina RE: sfkusinera Aug 3, 2007 01:52 PM

                                                roxie, whats the address?

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                                                  adrienne156 RE: Rina Aug 3, 2007 02:04 PM

                                                  Corner of Kirkham and 9th.

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                                                    Kim Cooper RE: adrienne156 Nov 15, 2008 09:59 PM

                                                    Talk about childhood memories! We lived three doors down when that market at 9th and Kirkham was McCambridge Market.

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                                                    Nancy Berry RE: Rina Aug 3, 2007 10:13 PM

                                                    The Roxie's that I was talking about is Roxie Food Center on San Jose Ave. near Santa Ynez in SF. The same folks own the Kirkham Ave. store, but this was the first Roxie's.

                                                    Roxie Food Center
                                                    1901 San Jose Ave, San Francisco, CA 94112

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                                                      adrienne156 RE: Nancy Berry Aug 4, 2007 10:22 AM

                                                      I'm SO sorry! I googled it and came up with the wrong address.

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                                                  cwujd1 RE: Rina Jul 4, 2007 06:21 PM

                                                  I'm surprised no one has mentioned the venerable Quincy's on Market between Polk and Van Ness. I've always thought it must be a great business (if you want/need some leisure time). They're open about 3 hours a day max and they have a crew that just makes one fresh sandwich after another. Corned beef and pastrami are kept warm and moist in large rice cookers. The standard choices in breads, meats, cheeses and condiments are available but everything is very fresh and the sandwiches are carefully constructed. The cash register is some ancient manual thing and you always get a piece of fresh fruit in the bag. I used to call it the no-name sandwich place because there was only a small wooden sign in the bottom of the window. There are a few seats but 90% of the business is to go. Seems like it's been around forever.

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                                                    gfsf RE: cwujd1 Aug 3, 2007 03:02 PM

                                                    May (14th St.) and Quincy are brother and sister. They both use the rice cookers to steam the cb and pastrami.

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                                                      NickADD RE: cwujd1 Nov 17, 2009 11:05 PM

                                                      The cheese sandwich is out of control. Get it with avocado.

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                                                        a_and_w RE: cwujd1 Mar 10, 2010 08:27 AM

                                                        Wow... Quincy's brings back some memories. When I was sick, my pops would always bring me an enormous salami and cheddar sandwich from Quincy's.

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                                                          Meredith RE: a_and_w Mar 11, 2010 02:51 PM

                                                          I drove by last week and there was paper over all the windows. I don't know if it is closed or (fingers crossed) they are just on vacation or renovating, but it did fill me with a bit of trepidation.

                                                      2. Cynsa RE: Rina Aug 4, 2007 01:06 AM

                                                        John Campbell's Irish Bakery at 5625 Geary Blvd. btw 20th and 21st Avenue
                                                        for a breakfast sandwich; Belfast Bap - Irish sausage, Irish bacon, Cheddar cheese with scrambled egg on an Irish roll

                                                        John Campbell's Irish Bakery
                                                        5625 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA 94121

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                                                          mewho11 RE: Rina Mar 8, 2008 06:36 PM

                                                          After extensive searching (yes, the quest actually was to find the best sandwich in SF - and I tried just about everything listed here) the best in the bay area that I found were 2:
                                                          Colombo's deli in Pacifica - www.colombosdeli.com. Italian deli. Cold cut sandwiches. Just right in terms of bread, savory and acid (the pickled stuff).
                                                          Bakesale Betty's in the east bay- http://www.bakesalebetty.com. A bakery not a sandwich shop. And they don't have a consistent menu. But the fried chicken sandwich with peppery cole slaw was outstanding.

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                                                            Robert Lauriston RE: mewho11 Mar 9, 2008 11:10 AM

                                                            The pastrami sandwich at Wood Tavern is also worth a trip across the bay.

                                                            Wood Tavern
                                                            6317 College Ave., Oakland, CA 94618

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                                                            mikeylikesit RE: Rina Mar 9, 2008 12:37 PM

                                                            I'm really surprised no one has mentioned Super Subs on Gough (close to Market).
                                                            Steak, mushrooms, onions, on a toasted (with cheese) Acme baguette. Phily doesn't do it as good.

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                                                              osho RE: mikeylikesit Mar 9, 2008 04:48 PM

                                                              Any other sandwiches you would recommend at Super Subs ?

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                                                                rworange RE: mikeylikesit Mar 9, 2008 04:49 PM


                                                                Super Subs Sandwich Shop
                                                                100 Gough St, San Francisco, CA 94102

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                                                                Johnny E RE: Rina Mar 10, 2008 04:46 PM

                                                                Gambinos at One Embarcadero has a tasty sub called the Gambino #11.

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                                                                  osho RE: Johnny E Mar 10, 2008 04:58 PM

                                                                  Could you possibly describe the sandwich ?

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                                                                    wolfe RE: osho Mar 10, 2008 05:12 PM

                                                                    Their menu says ham and cheese with, east coast style, lettuce, tomato, onion, oil, vinegar, salt,pepper and herbs. I want to know about #19.
                                                                    Everything Else. Ham, Turkey, Hot Coppa, Mortadella,
                                                                    Cappicola, Mozzarella, Basil, Roasted Red Peppers, Olives

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                                                                      Johnny E RE: osho Mar 12, 2008 08:01 AM


                                                                      I attached the menu. First off, the roll is soft and chewy. Meats of Mortadella,Salami, and Hot Coppa. Besides the roll, the best part of the sandwich is the "east coast or west coast" prep. I've only had east coast - a combo of peppers, vineagar, onions, oil and herbs. Drippingly tasty good. Long lines at lunch because the financial district folks hit the place hard. They are only open for lunch during the week.

                                                                      I have seen a lot of people ordering the cheese steaks - which look very good. I haven't tried one because I have a hard time going back to work after eating a pound of beef....

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                                                                        wolfe RE: Johnny E Mar 12, 2008 08:56 AM

                                                                        Sorry John my mistake, misremembered the #.

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                                                                          Johnny E RE: wolfe Mar 12, 2008 01:34 PM

                                                                          no prob! Evenything looks good. I'm looking forward to hearing how you like it.

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                                                                    Gabatta RE: Rina Mar 12, 2008 10:14 AM

                                                                    I can't get enough of the sandwiches at Mastrelli’s Delicatessen in the Ferry Building. They specialize in cured meats and Italian, however the turkey basil can't be beat either!

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                                                                      finchycocoa RE: Gabatta Nov 11, 2008 09:41 PM

                                                                      When I jones for a good Italian sandwich I go to IGA and get hot coppa and salami on a roll with all of the usual fixings. They use Boar's Head deli meat and it's under $7.00 for a good size sandwich. I also really like the hot ham and gruyere sandwich at Bi-Rite-- Acme roll and excellent ham and cheese with a bit of Dijon.

                                                                    2. opinionatedchef RE: Rina Apr 11, 2008 10:35 PM

                                                                      I'd drive the extra 1/2 hour over to Berkeley to Sea Salt for their Unagi Baanh Mih(sp.) and ask for avocado on it. Every year that I visit from Boston, I go THERE for that best sandwich (and many other tasty treats.)

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                                                                        BaraXan RE: opinionatedchef Nov 12, 2008 10:28 AM

                                                                        I have to weigh in against this much-lauded sandwich. I made a special trip to Berkeley to try it and was disappointed. They use a crumbly, soft roll that offers no contrast to the eel, so the whole thing is mushy and kind of disintegrates in your mouth. The idea sounds so good that I keep meaning to buy myself a meatless banh mi at some place like Saigon and fill it with my own unagi. But the execution at Sea Salt is unappealing.

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                                                                          Xiao Yang RE: BaraXan Nov 13, 2008 10:41 AM

                                                                          FWIW, you can get an eel sandwich at Good Luck Sandwiches on Kearny St. in SF. It's a generous amount of eel on a whole wheat roll, and probably cheaper than Sea Salt's (I think it was about $4.00 when I had it). It may not be listed on the daily board, just ask for it.

                                                                          Good Luck Market
                                                                          621 Kearny St, San Francisco, CA

                                                                          1. re: Xiao Yang
                                                                            adrienne156 RE: Xiao Yang Nov 13, 2008 12:54 PM

                                                                            The Banh mi at Sea Salt was $14 with a side of housemade chips last I checked.

                                                                            And, BaraXan - I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but I think that must have been an off day for the roll because I've had it 4 or 5 times and it's been the usual crusty on the outside, light on the inside banh mi roll. Aside from that, I do agree that the eel makes it a much softer sandwich on the whole though...

                                                                            1. re: Xiao Yang
                                                                              mariacarmen RE: Xiao Yang Nov 17, 2009 12:34 PM

                                                                              I tried the eel sandwich today, on this recommendation It was $5.00, very good sized piece of fairly mild eel, not mushy at all, and I had it on toasted Dutch Crunch so there was definitely a nice contrast between the fish and the bread, not to mention the crispy lettuce. It's listed on the board as Eel. The eel was hot, the veggies cold. I would order it next time with avocado, too . . . am completely stuffed - half would have been plenty!

                                                                        2. bbulkow RE: Rina Apr 29, 2008 06:18 PM

                                                                          Hazel's Kitchen on Potrero Hill

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                                                                            psb RE: bbulkow Apr 29, 2008 06:39 PM

                                                                            I havent been the HK n a while [i've shifted my cafe dollars
                                                                            from Farley's to Ritual] but I thought HK wasn't that special
                                                                            and not really a great deal. I thought AK Subs much better
                                                                            within a mile of Pot Hill.

                                                                            i'm not alone diskliking Hazel's kitchen:

                                                                            has anythng changed there in the last year?

                                                                            For non-posh sandwiches, the place across 3rd from the
                                                                            Bayview Lib Branch isnt bad ... decent price-performance
                                                                            for basic deli sandwich.

                                                                            Had a couple of good sandwichs at the store/deli a block down
                                                                            Guerrero from Tartine [@19th]. But they are often out of stuff,
                                                                            it seems.

                                                                            I dont know of a lot of sandwiches worth a crosstown
                                                                            trip ... I am more likely to file away "what's a decent place
                                                                            in the neightborhood" ... AK Subs in SOMA/PH, couple of
                                                                            places in Bernal, Roxie off 280 when closer to glen park
                                                                            area, AK subs other branch in the Richmond, Healthy
                                                                            Spirits sandwich in the Castro/Duboce Triangle, Saigon Saigon
                                                                            in the 'Loin, a few shawerma places here and there etc.

                                                                            OK TNX.

                                                                            1. re: psb
                                                                              uberslop RE: psb Nov 13, 2008 12:00 AM

                                                                              Now there are lots of great suggestions in here -- but is it really possible no one here has mentioned ike's Place, in the Castro? This place is SF's veritable temple to the form. They have somewhere between 100 and 140 sandwiches on the menu at any given time (and those are just the ones with names), and -- astonishingly -- they all seem to be drool-inducing beasts of wichery. It's tiny, so you need to be on the ball to secure one of the sidewalk tables, but man -- this is honestly as good as they get. Their Reuben (the "Paul Reubens") is as good a one as I;ve ever had, and they do infinite variations on beef -- they have an Obama-named one right now with gouda and BBQ sauce that is practically sexual. They have over twenty kinds of vegan sandwiches (their "Awful Falafel" is anything but), and even more veggie-wiches. Purists may kvetch, but this place is definitely worth a trip, hounds.

                                                                              About the only complaint I've ever heard is that they're messy. And if you think that's a strike against it, I don't know you.

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                                                                                rworange RE: uberslop Nov 13, 2008 07:21 AM

                                                                                Most of this post started before Ike's opened on Halloween in 2007.

                                                                                Do you like the dirty sauce?

                                                                                They also use halal chicken if anyone is interested in that.

                                                                                I think the sandwich that is calling out to me is ... For a Gouda Time Call Tiffany B.–Thinly Sliced RibEye Steak, TONS of Horseradish, Gouda ... or maybe ... FORTY!? - Chicken Fried Steak, Choice of Ranch, BBQ or Honey Mustard Sauce and Cheddar Cheese

                                                                                Ike's Place
                                                                                3489 16th Street, San Francisco, CA 94114

                                                                                1. re: rworange
                                                                                  srr RE: rworange Nov 13, 2008 10:56 PM

                                                                                  I just had the "For a gouda time call Tiffany B" two Sundays ago and it was awesome. It did have alot of horseradish on it, which was good for me. Some people might not enjoy the nose-burn as much as I did. My husband and I live in Glen Park/Noe Valley and there aren't many good sandwich options. We decided to check out Ike's and we are glad we did. Great sandwiches. I just heard of another place to check out that is closer to us than Ike's, Roxie Food Market on San Jose. Maybe tomorrow...

                                                                                  1. re: srr
                                                                                    sugartoof RE: srr Nov 16, 2008 12:26 AM

                                                                                    For Glen Park there's two great options with the cheese shop and Canyon Market. Roxie's in Mission Terrace is a real gem though.

                                                                                  2. re: rworange
                                                                                    mariacarmen RE: rworange Nov 19, 2009 08:14 PM

                                                                                    I was in the neighborhood and not particularly hungry but i had to try Ike's Place. I love that the place is about the size of my walk-in closet. I ordered a "non-original" (not one of their named combos) - rib-eye with jack cheese, with everything, on wheat (they were out of dutch crunch. pretty simple, but the flavors were delicious - the rib eye comes thinly sliced, is VERY tender. I didn't love the wheat, not crunchy enough when toasted, but it was ok. coudn't make out exactly what consitutes the "dirty sauce" but it was really tasty. AND the best part was i'd arrived at 6:15, no line at all, waited only 15 minutes, AND between i think 4 and 7 p.m., on sandwiches that are $6.50 and under, i believe, they have happy hour, which means with your humongous sandwich they throw in a drink and a bag of chips! so my rib eye steak sandwich, which i could only eat half of at one seating, with chips (still have those too) and a soda was a total of $6.79.! Next time i'll get there hungry and get the Paul Rubens.

                                                                                  3. re: uberslop
                                                                                    Jordancc RE: uberslop Mar 28, 2010 02:04 AM

                                                                                    Thank you! Yes, IKE'S wins! The only sandwich i have ever had that was better, is the Godmother from Bay Cities Deli in LA. Mmmmm . . deli. Why so few good ones up here, anyway?

                                                                                    Duuu-rty sauce! Duuu-rty sauce!

                                                                                    1. re: Jordancc
                                                                                      a_and_w RE: Jordancc Mar 28, 2010 08:38 AM

                                                                                      Love Bay Cities, but Genova and Lucca both do better sandwiches than the Godmother -- and that's just off the top of my head.

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                                                                                tipatat RE: Rina Nov 13, 2008 09:39 AM

                                                                                Although they are a relative new comer to the bay area scene, i believe the Refuge in San Carlos (of all places!) has the best sandwiches. Their thick cut, melt in your mouth pastrami is amazing. Also, i've head many people say great things about their french dip as well, but the pastrami is soo good i can never order anything else.

                                                                                I did also enjoy the Eel Bahn Mi at Sea Salt (although I thought the fried oyster sandwich with egg and bacon to be more memorable).

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                                                                                  brian j RE: tipatat Nov 13, 2008 12:17 PM

                                                                                  I'm gonna toss if a vote for La Spiaggia Delicatessen's meatball parm. These delicious homemade meatballs are made with Niman Ranch beef. I usually order mine on the soft roll with some hot pepper spread and pepperocinis. This is easily one of the best meatball parm subs I've had anywhere. It's about $8, but it's a hefty sandwich that I can't always finish.

                                                                                  Neighborhood: North Beach/Telegraph Hill
                                                                                  1556 Stockton St
                                                                                  (at Union St)
                                                                                  San Francisco, CA 94133

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                                                                                    rworange RE: brian j Nov 13, 2008 01:38 PM


                                                                                    Palermo Delicatessen
                                                                                    1556 Stockton St, San Francisco, CA 94133

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                                                                                  pininex RE: Rina Nov 13, 2008 06:01 PM

                                                                                  Giordano Bros Hot Cappicola is a great sandwich. Lately though Yat's half Crawfish po-boy with a side of corn maque-choux has risen to the top of the list.

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                                                                                  1. re: pininex
                                                                                    psb RE: pininex Nov 13, 2008 06:52 PM

                                                                                    since we're including berkeley in this discussion:

                                                                                    i thought the OYSTER PO'BOY from Gregoire [in Sept?] was vastly better than the YATS SHRIMP POBOY. The Gregoire item might be slightly smaller but was higher quality and comparably priced. The Gregoire BLT (also from Sept I believe) was really really good. If you're not looking for a giant sanwiches (Togo's/Subway footlong) in the $7-$8 rangeI think Gregoire lunch sandwiches are often pretty good [so i'm not just reminiscing about sandwiches past].

                                                                                    If you dont succumb o the lure of the insanely expensive potato items, the lunch there is reasonably priced.

                                                                                    OK TNX

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                                                                                    ML8000 RE: Rina Nov 13, 2008 09:42 PM

                                                                                    Quick shut out for El Tonayense Taco Truck's torta al pastor...it was the best sandwich I've had in the past 6-9 months.

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                                                                                      chilihead2006 RE: Rina Nov 13, 2008 10:42 PM

                                                                                      Grilled MAC at Le Croissant in San Rafael.

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                                                                                        sydthekyd RE: chilihead2006 Nov 14, 2008 12:22 PM

                                                                                        What does MAC stand for, please?

                                                                                      2. Lori SF RE: Rina Nov 14, 2008 09:02 AM

                                                                                        Pete's Deli and Café on Divisadero and Sutter makes good Philly Cheesesteak.

                                                                                        I have not been to Freddie's sandwich shop in years but they make a good sandwich, in North Beach on Francisco at Stockton.

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                                                                                          sugartoof RE: Lori SF Nov 16, 2008 12:36 AM

                                                                                          Interesting. I wonder if this place is connected to Roxie somehow. Same bread and cheese selection, and not too many places shred the lettuce anymore. Looks kinda similar with Freddie's having a more extensive menu.

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                                                                                          katya RE: Rina Nov 14, 2008 10:40 AM

                                                                                          I can't believe no one's mentioned Molinari's Delicatessen in North Beach. They have the best Italian sandwich I've ever had. When I worked in the Financial District, every few months I'd have a pilgrimage out there to have one of their great sandwiches. They include marinated roasted peppers which makes them even better. Their sister deli, Mastrelli's, is good but for some reason never as great as Molinari's.

                                                                                          My co-workers liked Gambino's a lot, but I was ultimately disappointed with their Italian sandwiches the two times I went there.

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                                                                                            P. Punko RE: Rina Nov 16, 2008 12:40 AM

                                                                                            I like all the Vietnamese sandwich places with Baguette Express up near the top (on Larkin). I also really love Little Lucca (Burlingame location seems a lot cleaner than the S. SF location in the house). Their standard subs (lettuce, tom, pickle, onion, mustard, mayo) are made by the addition of the garlic sauce and the hot pepper sauce. I get prosciutto on Dutch Crunch. Get a giant "small" for a buck less. The shredded lettuce and tomato don't really keep with the oil from the garlic and pepper sauces so if you don't finish their gigantic regular, the sandwich goes downhill for later (not that it would ever stop me). Their Toscano salami is good too, and the hot salami is OK, but I wouldn't get it by itself. Dutch Crunch seems just as SF to me as sourdough and I think it, combined with the garlic and pepper sauces, are what puts Little Lucca over the top into a craver spot and not just a decent local sub place.

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                                                                                              lihsiawang RE: P. Punko Mar 12, 2010 10:27 AM

                                                                                              I second the recommendation of Vietnamese sandwiches on Larkin. Lee's and Baguette Express--tasty, good bread, generous meat AND generous vegetable, and very inexpensive.

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                                                                                              bcitchon RE: Rina Nov 16, 2008 01:13 AM

                                                                                              All good recommendations above . . . i just NEED to throw CJ's in Burlingame into the ring here. I thought it was good, but my buddy from NYC who claims to KNOW sandwiches loves this joint. I live in Potrero Hill and still make the drive to Bulingame for this place. Check it out you won't be disappointed. Of course a bunch to pick from with a variety of breads and ingredients and toasted at your discretion.

                                                                                              Cj's Gourmet Delicatessen
                                                                                              (650) 348-3117
                                                                                              290 Primrose Rd, Burlingame, CA 94010


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                                                                                              1. re: bcitchon
                                                                                                rworange RE: bcitchon Nov 16, 2008 07:21 AM


                                                                                                Cj's Gourmet Delicatessen
                                                                                                290 Primrose Rd, Burlingame, CA

                                                                                                1. re: bcitchon
                                                                                                  sugartoof RE: bcitchon Nov 16, 2008 09:05 AM

                                                                                                  The best sandwiches I've had in my life were on the West Coast.

                                                                                                  Not that this reflects on the CJ's suggestion, and your buddy probably does know sandwiches, but in general you couldn't find this kind of assortment of good suggestions on the NY board. Aside from hand cured pastrami, "NY deli" barely exists.

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                                                                                                    rworange RE: sugartoof Nov 16, 2008 05:01 PM

                                                                                                    Well, I agree and don't ... they are just different on both coasts. We are not only talking Deli, we are also talking Italian. And the thing that probably scratches the East Coast sandwich itch is the toasted roll. It is why IMO so many East Coast people like the sub shop in the West Portal area despite average ingrediants, they toast the subs and it elevates them.

                                                                                                    One thing I've been noticing in the Burlingame area is the number of places that use garlic sauce on there sandwiches. I wonsnder who started that. I don't see that in SF or anyplace else I remember. I have a number on my to-try list to compare garlic sauces.

                                                                                                    Now the East Coast doesn't compare in the artisan sandwich category ... you almost want to kill yourself with some of the bread, lettuce and tomato that is used ... though Boston kind of rises above the rest as a good sandwich town old school and new school.

                                                                                                    1. re: rworange
                                                                                                      chipman RE: rworange Nov 16, 2008 05:34 PM

                                                                                                      I could be wrong, but I think Darbey Dans was the first to use the garlic spread. I remember buying sandwiches from them in the early 70's.

                                                                                                      1. re: rworange
                                                                                                        sugartoof RE: rworange Nov 16, 2008 08:29 PM

                                                                                                        Not to get into the comparison debates again, but you can't find a Lucca, a Roxie, a a Fererara, a Molinari, etc. in NY. If you want a chicken parm, a pastrami, an egg sandwich, or a Vietnamese thing, you're in good shape, but as for deli meats, and Italian style deli? San Francisco has ruled the school for a long time. They tried this same thread on the NY board and it was...well, it mostly covered fancy pants chef made concoctions and places like Wichcraft got mentioned.

                                                                                                        1. re: sugartoof
                                                                                                          ML8000 RE: sugartoof Nov 17, 2008 01:53 AM

                                                                                                          I'm not sure you can get a decent torta (Mexican sandwich) on the East Coast either.

                                                                                                          The other place not mentioned on this thread is Ratto's in Old Oakland. They've been around for 100+ years. I think their sandwiches are right up there with places like Lucca...just different. You can get an artisan roll for .30 cents extra and for some sandwiches it makes a big difference.

                                                                                                          1. re: sugartoof
                                                                                                            rworange RE: sugartoof Nov 17, 2008 06:48 AM

                                                                                                            The East Coast is more than NY. In CT and MA you can get sandwiches that make those seem like something from Safeway, especially in CT. Every time I go home I have to get my real Eye-talian grinder ... and Jersey ... not my territory as much, but I've had some amazing sandwiches there. It is the reason I've always been underwhelmed by Molinari. For me, SF has always been a second rate Italian deli town. The delis here are about equal to the Italian bakeries, ok but there are better.

                                                                                                            1. re: rworange
                                                                                                              wolfe RE: rworange Nov 17, 2008 06:57 AM

                                                                                                              My sentiments exactly. There are more than cheesesteaks in Philadelphia and I suspect more in New York City than just in Manhattan.

                                                                                                              1. re: rworange
                                                                                                                sugartoof RE: rworange Nov 17, 2008 10:41 AM

                                                                                                                Now we're talking Tri-State and Mass. ? Well sure if you put in the mileage, there are great sandwiches all over the US of A. ... but within the small confines of San Francisco, I've found no equal in NYC when it comes to our vast selection here...and tried. I'm not nostalgic for hoagies on a soft italian bread though. I grew up in SF and when I wanted to replicate the kind of sandwich being discussed in this thread, it just didn't exist, and the closest specimen would be twice the price.

                                                                                                                We really should celebrate the sandwich as an underlooked San Francisco specialty.

                                                                                                                1. re: sugartoof
                                                                                                                  rworange RE: sugartoof Nov 17, 2008 11:08 AM

                                                                                                                  Well, there you go. These are the sandwiches you grew up with and set certain expectations on what is good to you. That's is why you can't find anything comparable in NYC and East Coasters can't find anything comparable here from what they favor. Can't address the Italian sandwich situation in NYC, as trips there were more dedicated to Jewish deli. My little hometown had a large Italian immigrant population and the sandwiches so good, no need to seek them out elsewhere.

                                                                                                                  1. re: rworange
                                                                                                                    sugartoof RE: rworange Nov 17, 2008 12:15 PM

                                                                                                                    Sure, I was just addressing the idea that someone from NY would have superior sandwich credentials and know their deli... we do pretty okay out here without all the fanfare.

                                                                                                                    1. re: sugartoof
                                                                                                                      Xiao Yang RE: sugartoof Nov 17, 2008 12:19 PM

                                                                                                                      Yeah, but try to get a decent tomato, herring and onion on rye out here...

                                                                                                                      1. re: Xiao Yang
                                                                                                                        ML8000 RE: Xiao Yang Nov 17, 2008 01:21 PM

                                                                                                                        And yet East Coasters keep moving to the West Coast. To me that's the irony.

                                                                                                                        Any way, there's great food on the East Coast, memory invoked and real. Doesn't really matter when you're on the West Coast. We of course just don't know any better. I'm happy with the full Cali combo - weather, food, people, attitude.

                                                                                                                        1. re: Xiao Yang
                                                                                                                          sugartoof RE: Xiao Yang Nov 17, 2008 01:53 PM

                                                                                                                          Not exactly the hallmark sandwich of Jewish deli, but we know San Franciso is tapped out in that department... mind you there are only a couple places left in NY you'll see that sandwich recommended, and don't expect the tomato in it to be "decent". All the elements are here. SF has good white fish, good rye bread... there's just no demand for it.

                                                                                                                    2. re: sugartoof
                                                                                                                      P. Punko RE: sugartoof Nov 17, 2008 06:24 PM

                                                                                                                      Jersey Joe's in San Carlos has a hoagie on soft italian bread. Very vinegar and oily, but pretty east coast (not toasted) but the Italian cold cuts on it are good. They also have pretty authentic cheesesteaks. I don't like cheesesteaks a ton, but that place seems legit.

                                                                                                                      Added: their hot pepper mix seems very east coast too, I think it is the usual mix of red and green hot cherry peppers. It was hard to tell because they didn't put that much on there.

                                                                                                                2. re: rworange
                                                                                                                  Xiao Yang RE: rworange Nov 17, 2008 07:06 AM

                                                                                                                  You are right if you have a very narrow conception of what a "sandwich is" but on the other hand,


                                                                                                                  And that was written before the Xi'an Famous Eats guy introduced Flushing to the Roujiamo.

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                                                                                                              Nancy Berry RE: Rina Nov 16, 2008 05:23 PM

                                                                                                              Two more really good sandwich places and a question about a third:

                                                                                                              I've always liked Sorrento Deli on Mission near Russia in the Excelsior, but thought that their sandwiches were just okay. Now, however, since the next generation has taken over the shop, their sandwiches are just terrific. There's a blackboard on the counter that lists their special sandwiches (all of which are great,) but you can also pick your own meats, cheeses and toppings.

                                                                                                              And Mollie Stone's Tower Market in the Miraloma/Twin Peaks area of SF also makes wonderful sandwiches -- I particularly like the shrimp salad on a soft roll, but their other sandwiches are great, too, because of the quality of their meats, cheeses, produce, etc.

                                                                                                              Now for the question. Has anyone been to the new sandwich shop next door to Tower Burger on Portola in SF -- near Tower Market?

                                                                                                              I just looked in while going to Tower Burger and it seemed interesting with heated Italian-style sandwiches and subs.

                                                                                                              Mollie Stone Tower Market
                                                                                                              635 Portola Dr, San Francisco, CA 94127

                                                                                                              Sorrento Delicatessen
                                                                                                              4763 Mission St, San Francisco, CA 94112

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                                                                                                                vulber RE: Rina Nov 17, 2009 07:52 AM

                                                                                                                Especially if you like "stacked high with roast beef", I've always found Estela's in the Lower Haight to be the best. Incredible smoothies too.

                                                                                                                1. JulesSF RE: Rina Nov 17, 2009 10:35 AM

                                                                                                                  I go out of my way for lunch or early dinner at Apollo Coffee in NoPa every once in a while:
                                                                                                                  their hot-pressed panini are layered with organic cold cuts & european cheeses
                                                                                                                  - and get a garlic clove rub after toasting for an amazing aroma twist.
                                                                                                                  My favorites: the "Grilled Mediterranean Turkey" and the "Ham & Cheese" (made with real gruyere!)

                                                                                                                  Apollo Coffee
                                                                                                                  1064 Divisadero Street, San Francisco, CA

                                                                                                                  1. dhoffman1421 RE: Rina Nov 17, 2009 01:43 PM

                                                                                                                    I don't see Refuge on this list. While not in SF, just south in San Carlos and excellent home made Pastrami. A Reuben to die for!

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                                                                                                                      Steve Green RE: wolfe Dec 21, 2009 04:06 PM

                                                                                                                      Neither does Merriam-Webster, but several Brand-X online dictionaries do:

                                                                                                                      I think it's one of those self-explanatory, common-usage-online things that hasn't made it into the mainstream. I sure wouldn't rely on spellcheck for much of anything.

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                                                                                                                        wolfe RE: Steve Green Dec 21, 2009 05:21 PM

                                                                                                                        Heck I used it and I even knew what it meant. I was just observing that my spell check
                                                                                                                        kept redlining it. My spelling is bad enough that the red line makes me nervous. Thank you for the references. I can use them next time my friendly word police get after me.

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                                                                                                                          wolfe RE: Steve Green Dec 24, 2009 08:25 AM

                                                                                                                          My spell check also dislikes Ubuntu and biodynamic.

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                                                                                                                        chuckl RE: Rina Nov 20, 2009 12:28 PM

                                                                                                                        I'm surprised no one has mentioned Ike's place.

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                                                                                                                          Steve Green RE: chuckl Nov 20, 2009 01:22 PM

                                                                                                                          mariacarmen mentioned Ike's, about 30 entries upthread. Sounds good, too.

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                                                                                                                            mariacarmen RE: Steve Green Nov 20, 2009 04:12 PM

                                                                                                                            Can't take credit. RWOrange mentioned it and i went on his recommendation.

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                                                                                                                              Cynsa RE: mariacarmen Nov 20, 2009 04:39 PM

                                                                                                                              rworange - her recommendation

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                                                                                                                                mariacarmen RE: Cynsa Nov 20, 2009 08:26 PM

                                                                                                                                OOPS sorry!! it's so hard to tell with these names. sorry RW! no offence meant.

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                                                                                                                          nudepuppy RE: Rina Nov 21, 2009 08:58 AM

                                                                                                                          Easy-peasy on this question. On Saturday morning, head for the Ferry Building's farmer's market. Order an egg sandwich with bacon and cheese from Rosie's. Plate full of country style fries, with thick buttery toast covering a perfect over easy with thick sliced apple cured bacon and a slice of cheddar all lathered in basil mayo.

                                                                                                                          Oh my.

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                                                                                                                            ikb RE: Rina Nov 27, 2009 12:08 PM

                                                                                                                            does anybody know if wichcraft's sandwiches are any good?

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                                                                                                                              wolfe RE: ikb Nov 27, 2009 12:30 PM

                                                                                                                              Check these threads.

                                                                                                                            2. psb RE: Rina Dec 21, 2009 07:00 PM

                                                                                                                              Current fav SF sandwich: Kitchenette's smoked pork sandwich with picked onions and cockscomb;

                                                                                                                              12/7: House smoked ham sandwich marin sun farms pork, pickled red onions, cresta di gallo, dijon mustard, green onion bread $8.

                                                                                                                              It was amazing. Somewhat amusingly: I was expecting a small pasta side salad [that's what I thought the CdG was about] and was a little confused when they just handed me a sandwich [on earlier occasions they had given a little notional side, just like Gregoire does].
                                                                                                                              I only after the fact realized some of the "red stuff" in the sandwich was neither smoked ham nor pickled onion ...

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                                                                                                                                chowdoc31 RE: Rina Mar 9, 2010 10:08 PM

                                                                                                                                Thought I'd help resurrect this great thread.

                                                                                                                                If you're willing to pop down just out of SF, check out Carroll's Meats in Brisbane...it's in the back of Midtown Market, a nondescript convenience store on Visitacion. They have an OUTSTANDING tri-tip sandwich...one of the best beef-based sandwiches I've had.

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                                                                                                                                  vulber RE: Rina Mar 9, 2010 10:12 PM

                                                                                                                                  The best sandwich in San Francisco is the [port-]braised lamb cheeks at Spencer on the Go

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                                                                                                                                    virtualguthrie RE: Rina Mar 10, 2010 09:19 AM

                                                                                                                                    Not sure it it's been mentioned yet but I think the pastrami sandwich (Wednesday's only) @ Memphis Minnie's is a contender. House cured and smoked and hand sliced, as close as you'll get to Katz's in these parts. They also make a Reuben, I might have to run out and get one.... today is Wednesday after all.

                                                                                                                                    1. Kazy Ctn RE: Rina Mar 12, 2010 09:57 AM

                                                                                                                                      How is it possible that no one has mentioned Genova in Oakland?

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                                                                                                                                        Melanie Wong RE: Kazy Ctn Mar 12, 2010 02:51 PM

                                                                                                                                        Because Genova is in Oakland (and Napa), whereas this thread is about San Francisco.

                                                                                                                                      2. toitoi RE: Rina Mar 13, 2010 07:53 AM

                                                                                                                                        The Ahi Burger at Taylor's Refresher in the Ferry Bldg.

                                                                                                                                        Any sandwich at Tommy's Joynt on Van Ness

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