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Lai Wah Heen- what to order?

Rabbit Jun 21, 2007 06:47 AM

We're dim sum-ing at LWH on Sunday (it's a celebration... so we're prepared for the expense).

Does anyone have specific menu recommendations?

Thanks -
Rab-bit!

  1. skylineR33 Jun 21, 2007 08:32 AM

    Hi Rabbit,

    I like the mini baked puff with ham. The ham & sauce is very rich which make it very tasty. The specialties are great, nice presentation except that I am not too fond of the foie gras mini soft wrap, I found the foie gras not match with other ingradients when they are steamed together in the soft wrap.

    Not sure if you have tried the chicken broth dumpling with seafood and shark fin before, it is pretty impressive with one little pot per person. It is expensive and not the best in Toronto IMO, but very solid.

    1. Royaljelly Jun 21, 2007 08:56 AM

      If you're not full after having just dim sum dishes, you could also try their fried rice dish. I think the one we tried had egg, dried scallops, and other ingredients, but was the most lightest well done fried rice I've ever had (without much oily consistency either). I think the name of the dish translated to something like "generous man fried rice", probably referring to the ingredients that it had.

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        erly Jun 21, 2007 11:02 AM

        They also have a tasting dim sum menu.
        Don't bother paying for the "cute" dumplings in the shape of chickens, etc.
        They are more than double the price, and nothing more exotic about the taste.
        I think that they do the basics, much better than most...
        shui mai, turnip cake, steamed bean curd rolls, etc.
        A couple of weeks ago we tried the turnip cake with cheese, and all agreed that it didn't work.
        I wish that they would have more fresh seafood, e.g. three perfect oysters, but this is not to be, as I had mentioned it to them on a couple of occasions.

        1. re: erly
          skylineR33 Jun 21, 2007 11:22 AM

          I never heard of "three perfect oysters" as a dim sum. Maybe it is just a matter of English/Chinese translation. Do you mean it is a dim sum ? How is it cooked ? Thanks.

      2. koknia Jun 21, 2007 12:50 PM

        We had a really expensive pot of tea that was my favorite part of the meal.

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          erly Jun 21, 2007 06:45 PM

          I was first introduced to dim sum in Taiwan, probably so long ago that many here were not born yet.
          Used to go once a year for business.
          The grand dim sum places always had some seafood and BBQ on their carts.
          There was a place on Sheppard near Kennedy called Nathan's and they served a similar dim sum.
          Simple raw oysters, steamed shrimp, clams, BBQ pork etc.
          Just a good mix of protein, along with the various dumplings.

          1. re: erly
            skylineR33 Jun 21, 2007 07:15 PM

            So is "Three perfect oyster" a Taiwanese dim sum ? If it is, LWH and all other dim sum places in Richmond Hill/Markham won't have it as they are all not taiwanese style. Nathan, is it the one inside Dragon Center 23 Glen Watford Dr (just off Sheppard) or Oriental Center 4438 Sheppard ?

            Raw oyster as dim sum ?! probably even my dad has not heard about it...interesting.

            1. re: skylineR33
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              erly Jun 22, 2007 05:08 PM

              Nathans is no more.
              It was in a strip mall (second floor) across from the first Chinese indoor mall in T.O.
              Forget the name on Sheppard several blocks east of Kennedy.
              The Taiwanese experience spoiled me, as growing up in T.O). the only dim sum was Treasure, and similar, good but basic..
              Possibly you are correct about the seafood being specific to Taiwan.

        2. Rabbit Jun 24, 2007 04:00 PM

          Thanks to all for the recs at LWH.

          We dim-summed this morning for Rabbit-mother's birthday. Overall, it was a fun way to spend a Sunday afternoon, although I'm not sure we quite made the most of the experience. We were battling various dislikes and allergies at our table, which perhaps thwarted our tasting some of the more interesting menu options.

          Either way, we sampled various dumplings (shrimp, pork and scallop shu-mai, chicken and vegetable shu-mai, pork, shrimp and bok choy dumplings, chicken and mushroom potstickers). Dumplings were good, but no better, in my opinion, than at Mother's Dumplings, even slightly greasier. Bok choy dumplings were probably the best of the bunch. Also tried the jellyfish. This was my first time eating jellyfish, and while Mr. Rabbit was all over it (and familiar, being half-Asian), I struggled with the texture. Rabbit-mother put back a surprising amount of her jellyfish ("lucky birthday noodles" as she re-christened them). Decided to go for the Peking Duck... and this was wonderful. Served two ways, it is initially presented with pancakes and scallions, then in a sort of minced stir-fry in a lettuce cup. I wanted sweets, but was out-voted (sweets looked wonderful).

          Total for the meal (with tea, no alcohol) was $105 (before tip), which we found surprisingly reasonable (note that there were four of us). Room is pretty, and service was pleasant and professional. I'd like to go back and ramp up the adventurous-ness factor for a richer experience.

          Rab-bit!

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          1. re: Rabbit
            skylineR33 Jun 24, 2007 10:25 PM

            Do you mean you went there for dim sum ? Does not look like you were having a dim sum lunch to me .....

            1. re: skylineR33
              Rabbit Jun 25, 2007 05:49 AM

              Skyline-

              I'm obviously and admittedly a dim sum neophyte. Do you mean that what we ate doesn't look like dim sum lunch insofar as we didn't stick with small dishes?

              What does dim sum lunch mean to you? (And that's not a challenge, I mean the question quite sincerely... you obviously know a lot about the cuisine and I'm really just learning - and interested in exploring more.)

              I know there are various open threads on this topic right now, but do you have a favourite downtown rec for our next-time-around?

              1. re: Rabbit
                skylineR33 Jun 25, 2007 10:25 AM

                Haha, I am by no mean expert in dim sum too. It just that I have not heard anyone (if I remember correctly) ordering a whole peking duck 2 courses as part of their dim sum lunch. They do not go together in my mind, I guess.

                To me, Peking duck is more heavier of a dish for dinner or a maybe suitable for a normal lunch (a big one) other than dim sum lunch. Dim sum is a lighter lunch which one enjoys tea with small pieces in a small steamer box or plate, then maybe at the end order a fried rice/noodle to finish if still hungary. In which there should not be a main course in dim sum, but by ordering Peking duck, it is like that's the main and others are like side dishes. Kind of strange to me.

                I do order small plate of BBQ duck/pork during dim sum sometime but never a whole peking duck 2 courses. Maybe it is just me as I said "it does not sound like dim sum lunch to me".

                I usually stick with LWH as I only goes dim sum at downtown once a while. Usually, I go to Richmond Hill area for dim sum. I have tried Pink Pearl recently at Queen's Quay, don't really good IMO, King's Garden used to be OK but have not been there for dim sum for 2 years.

                Just my 2 cents !

                1. re: skylineR33
                  Mr Rabbit Jun 28, 2007 08:16 PM

                  Well, I'm the one that ordered the Peking duck at this outing and I have to disagree. I used to eat a lot of dim sum in San Francisco back in the day, and Peking duck was always on the carts, along with duck feet and jellyfish. At Yank Sing, the Peking duck cart always had a duck head tied to the top so you could see it across the room.

                  The problem with the Peking duck at LWH is that you have to order the whole duck, as you mention. The whole duck that we got would have been enough for 8 people. With 4 people, everyone got 4 pancakes and a giant size lettuce cup of duck stir fry. With 8 people, it would have been 2 pancakes and a normal size lettuce cup per person. Of course, I was in duck fat heaven and ended up hoovering up so much Peking duck and jellyfish that I had to skip dinner.

                  1. re: Mr Rabbit
                    skylineR33 Jun 28, 2007 08:42 PM

                    Yeah, I guess it is just preference. I used to eat lots of dim sum too and never heard people do this whole peking duck thing at dim sum so just kind of new to me. Nothing personal.

                    1. re: skylineR33
                      Mr Rabbit Jul 1, 2007 04:32 AM

                      Ah, I see. I've never heard of the whole Peking duck at dim sum either. But I have heard of Peking duck. And I wanted some, so I had to order the whole duck to get it...

                      1. re: Mr Rabbit
                        skylineR33 Jul 2, 2007 10:05 AM

                        It reminds me once we took our friend from UK to "Yam Cha" - drinking tea or dim-summing in English, he wanted to eat sweet and sour pork and we ordered a dish of it to share and even a bowl of rice for him. These items show up once a while in some dim sum place as a smaller plate version especially in North America. Well, it is perfectly fine to order any kinds of food from the menu if they are available at lunch, just that this is really not my suggested way of doing "Yam Cha".

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