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Jun 20, 2007 12:52 PM

What happened to the Fresh Market in Rochester Hills MI?

I just moved here, knowing it would open soon (as of a message I read on April 1 or thereabouts) and it still doesn't look cars in front of it or anything. Did it open and then close? Why?

Just curious! I live right between the Whole Foods and TJ's on Walton and don't want anything happening to either of those!

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  1. Fresh Market closed right after Papa Joe's opened. That's competition for you.

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    1. re: jcbroder

      Wow. Well, the whole area is really flooded with gourmet grocery stores. Not that I'm complaining, because I'm not--I'm thrilled! I didn't realize Papa Joe's was open as well. I guess I better go find it tomorrow :)

      1. re: IndyGirl

        You guys in Rochester are so spoiled. We living in the boonies of Clarkson need to drive half an hour for the great markets.
        I heard several years ago that Papa Joes was looking at opening a location in Clarkston, but it has not happened yet. Wish someone would. We only have 2 Kroger's and the FJ's are closing.

        1. re: Markcron

          Trust me, I know. I have waited a great many years to live in a place with so many gourmet grocery stores! But think of it this way--we have all these gourmet stores but not that many great restaurants. It's weird. I have yet to find really excellent sushi in Rochester or RH.

          1. re: IndyGirl

            Did you try Take Sushi? - next to Whole Foods. They rate OK with me, but you might have higher standards.
            Supposedly the best in are is Noble Fish.

            1. re: Markcron

              Hi Markcron,
              Yes, we actually live in walking distance from Take. They are much better than the Sumo place downtown, which is just too fusion-newagey for me. Take was OK, but there were two things there that gave me pause and kept me from giving it my full enthusiastic "Yum!":
              1) I felt like they needed to redo their sushi rice method. It was dry, not very sticky, and didn't have the right flavor. I'm not sure it was even the right kind of rice.
              2) Their udon soup featured not only shiitake mushrooms but also 5 or 6 normal button mushrooms. That weirded me out. Didn't they have enough shiitakes? And even if they didn't, why were there button mushrooms back there? Did they run to whole foods to get them? What?
              Other than those two things--I consider the rice a major offense, the mushrooms weird but possibly symptomatic of larger issues--Take was our kind of sushi place. It was more traditional, and their fish was definitely good. We're going to try Noble Fish next based on recs from this board.

              1. re: IndyGirl

                TAKE has better sushi and a more traditional atmosphere than Nobana. Nobana is ok for lunch but would never think of going there for dinner

            2. re: IndyGirl

              you might wanna try nobana (5365 Crooks Road) in Troy. they originally opened as another noble fish but not sure what happened to spark the name change.

              1. re: IndyGirl

                hi there, do you know that at Papa Joes have excellent sushi should try's really good though.....

                1. re: ly2501

                  NO! I didn't know that, but thank you for the tip! We will definitely try it out@!

            3. re: IndyGirl

              I just heard from a reliable source that a Papa Joe's will be opening in the former Farmer Jack store on Sashabaw and Waldon Road! It's about time Clarkston gets something other than the usual chains!

            4. re: jcbroder

              that's pretty incredible. they were not around long.

              the new papa joe's is good but it's near impossible to go on a weekend. packed to the gills and the aisles are way too tight. i have one friend that said he was phsically trapped in the produce section by too many carts and our neighbors said they would not go back because it was way too packed.

              a new place - international marketplace - just opened up on rochester @ long lake, in the former asia mart that closed six months ago. produce prices seemed to be a bit lower that nino's/papa/tj/etc. but their meat, seafood, and grocery was a bit below the others'.

              1. re: xman887

                oh cool! I am new to the area as I said before, and haven't found much in the way of really good international markets, especially asian. I did find (I think) a Korean place today...I was looking for fresh pho noodles and was out of luck, but they did have dried. I can't recall the name , but it was at 5xxx Rochester Road, I think.

                Also visited Nino's for the first time today. Great place.

                Tomorrow I better visit Papa Joe's since I can't go on the weekend! :) I've never even heard of it before.

                1. re: IndyGirl

                  Ooh, you are in for a treat at Papa Joe's. But I do love Nino's, however costly it is.

                  1. re: IndyGirl

                    International markets: there are a lot of Indian markets on Dequindre but the place my Indian colleague recommended is simply called India Grocers in the Kmart Plaze at 18 and Dequindre. They have a good selection and sometimes hot samosas which are pretty darn good. Oddly enough, there is a decent Polish market in the same shopping center, where you will certainly hear Polish being spoken.

                    Another Polish place is on Dequindre and 15 Mile in Troy, with fabulous prepared foods.

                    Italian--Ventimiglia's in Sterling Heights is well regarded--haven't been as I usually go to Cantoro's in Livonia (you'll find their olive-rosemary bread at other markets and it is GREAT)

                    Arabic--not sure in that area, but there are some near Orchard Lake. Also Dearborn (goes without saying) and Oak Park at 9 Mile/Coolidge.

                    Japanese: Noble Fish is in a small Japanese market in Clawson (14 Mile). Also a good one in Novi on Grand River but I don't remember the name.

                    I love Nino's too! Used to go there frequently when I worked in Troy.

                    I also like the new Busch's by TJ's for general groceries, although a bit spendy.

                  2. re: xman887

                    Last time I was at Papa Joe's an employee said they had some smaller carts on the way to help with the congestion - that was a couple weeks ago. It doesn't help that their store layout is kind of odd, doesn't really flow very well.

                    1. re: gooddog

                      Indeed. I stopped by there this morning out of curiosity. It is definitely crowded and the layout is chaos. Still a gorgeous store, though, with lots of beautiful produce especially. I was amazed.

                      1. re: IndyGirl

                        international marketplace is gone too , couldn't hack the fierce competition , apparently . All in all , I miss the asia market that was there most . There is really a crazy and probably unsustainable game of oneupmanship going on in the metro area right now . Even Holiday Market in Royal Oak is currently undergoing a multimillion dollar renovation , and I liked it just the way it was . Apparently , we need preserved flying sharks above our heads in all seafood sections where precious few of us will do much more than gawp at the perfect , beautiful , outrageously priced scallops and such , while all we can bring ourselves to buy is some kohlrabi and scallions so we can make ramen the next morning .

                        1. re: GoalieJeff

                          you might be mistaking the AGRUSA international market for another "international market". AGRUSA at the corner of long lake and rochester rd just opened last week.

                          1. re: GoalieJeff

                            The International Marketplace at Long Lake and Rochester did NOT close. It opened a week and a half ago on Friday June 22, 2007 I was there on Friday. It's OK, but it's a far cry from Papa Joe's.

                  3. If you make it to Papa Joes try the grilled KOBE Beef Sandwich they make in the food section. It is only $6.95 and the Kobe beef is unreal. They must give you a half pound so it is a great bargain. I get the sandwich to go and grab a shaken iced tea at starbucks in the front lot and for $8.95 I have a masterpiece.

                    1. I work at Busch's and we have a good selection of Asian food. However, I am looking for an asian market as well that is strictly asian. I have a few foods that I like and could get in Saginaw and Lansing at different asian stores, but I can't find a place in this area at all. Busch's can be expensive, I know, but you should look at the ad every week, we have good sales on items, sometimes we have 3 day sales with great specials, and every once in a while we have meal deals, where if you buy say a cut of meat, you'll get other meal fixings with it for a discounted price or free. Just thought I would let you all know!

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                      1. re: lovetoeat08

                        My fav Asian (non Indian) market is Oriental Market, on Southfield Road between 12/13 mile. It's a pretty good sized store, covers Chinese/Philipine/Thai mostly.

                        Best Japanese is Noble Fish in Clawson, but very small, or One World Market in Novi, which is bigger and supposedly the largest Japanese market in Michigan.

                        Vietnamese--try Saigon Market on John R in Madison Heights (not a place for romance, Kwame!) but it's REALLY Vietnamese. I felt out of place there, as an Anglo--signage is almost totally in Vietnamese.

                        And...I LOVE Busch's! The RH store is near my workplace, but no stores near home, so it's an occasional after work stop, but the meat is excellent and as you say, the specials are worth checking out.