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<topic>
  <id>41308</id>
  <title>In Search of a Petite Turkey</title>
  <published_at>Tue Nov 15 23:52:17 -0800 2005</published_at>
  <post_count>15</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>1</id>
    <name>San Francisco Bay Area</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>199050</id>
        <content>Anybody know if there's such a thing as an eight pounder? I'd love to use my Ron Popeil "Showtime" compact rotisserie, which makes the best chicken I've ever put in my mouth - and so simple and fool-proof too, BUT it has an eight pound limit.
So, has anyone heard of any place near SF that sells such a rara avis? (I've NEVER had a chance to use that latin metaphor literally before!)</content>
        <published_at>Tue Nov 15 23:52:17 -0800 2005</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>0</id>
          <name>Niki Rothman</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>199054</id>
      <content>Heritage turkeys can run that small. Since most people want bigger ones, you might have luck getting a smaller one. I'd call around to the butchers and see who can order one for you.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 16 00:12:54 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>199050</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Ruth Lafler</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>199068</id>
      <content>I believe I saw Heritage turkeys advertised at Draegers and Lunardi's.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 16 01:44:16 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>199054</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Margret</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>199089</id>
      <content>What are the general locations?
Thanks.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 16 09:09:31 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>199068</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Niki Rothman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>199109</id>
      <content>Both Lunardis and Draegers have web sites.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 16 12:05:17 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>199089</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Alan408</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>199090</id>
      <content>I regularly buy Diestel turkeys in the 8-9lb range here in Sonoma @ Sonoma Market.  I think that Whole Foods carries the same brand.  They have always been excellent.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 16 10:22:36 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>199050</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Sam B</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>199101</id>
      <content>I saw some very small young Diestel hens at the Whole Foods on 4th. They have big turkeys in the main butcher case and smaller ones to the left of the butcher case with the pre-packaged meats.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 16 11:41:40 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>199090</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>nooodles</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>199105</id>
      <content>Mary's Turkeys heritage birds come in 7 and 8-11 pounds. You might be able to get one through Andronico's on Irving Street, though it's late to be ordering.

Link: http://www.marysturkeys.com</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 16 11:48:54 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>199050</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Robert Lauriston</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>199129</id>
      <content>Heritage Foods USA, the food sales branch of the Slow Food movement, Heritage Foods USA turkeys can be ordered for $7.99 a pound through Prather Ranch's Ferry Building shop in San Francisco, (415) 391-0420; and the Pasta Shop's Fourth Street market in Berkeley, (510) 528-1786 or for $6.99 a pound at Bi-Rite Market, San Francisco, (415) 241-9760. And they can be ordered online at heritagefoodsusa.com for $139 to $199 per turkey. 
 
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/11/02/FDGT3FF0SA1.DTL</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 16 13:50:33 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>199050</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>jade</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>199140</id>
      <content>Huh?  $139 or $199 for a turkey?  I regularly overspend on my victuals and am a weekly FP marketgoer, but that, quite frankly, is insane.  Turkey, as today's NY Times suggests, is rarely the star of the show, and spending that much on a bird is nuts.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 16 14:06:57 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>199129</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Alfred</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>199157</id>
      <content>Yeah, SIGH...you are SO right. I WANT to eat organic. 
I BELIEVE in the slow food movement. I love Prince Charles and Alice Waters. But I can't AFFORD $150 for a turkey, or even $70 for the petite model at Bi-Rite. And I'm deeply shamed to admit it, but even as recently as last year I would have gladly run over to Safeway for the 99 cent a pound Thanksgiving sale-a-thon, and I might even have done it this year if I thought I could shove one of those huge steroid-ridden monsters into my "compact" rotisserie. But, as I said, it only holds eight pounds. And yes, I want a free-range bird to be thankful for. It's appropriate. So I'll make some calls and see how cheep, cheep, cheep I can get a free-range, as opposed to organic, bird. And I'll buy organic when I can, when it's not like ten times the price of non-organic. That's my compromise. Maybe twice the price, but not ten times the price...
As my 90 year old mother-in-law says, "If those food-chemicals haven't killed me by now, they never will!" </content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 16 15:37:51 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>199140</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Niki Rothman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>199160</id>
      <content>That's ridiculous! I know you can get a Mary's heritage turkey from Baron's meats in Alameda for less than that -- $4.99/lb IIRC. Which I guess is high for turkey, but not much compared to comparable quality other meat. You can also get Mary's organic turkey from him at $2-something a pound or a Mary's free range for $1.79/lb. I don't know if he's still taking orders, but you can give him a call.

Link: http://www.baronsmeats.com/products.htm#marysturkeysm</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 16 15:58:57 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>199157</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Ruth Lafler</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>199172</id>
      <content>As others have mentioned Whole Foods has Diestel turkeys at that small size. I usually get a small turkey and have had to haggle with Whole Foods in the past years because while I wanted small, I didn't want TOO small. Not sure of the price this year but in past years I've bought Diestel (which IS a lovely bird) for $1.99 a pound. 
 
&gt;&gt;&gt; As my 90 year old mother-in-law says, "If those food-chemicals haven't killed me by now, they never will!" &lt;&lt;&lt;
 
That sort of lends credence to an old Reader's Digest article that said perservatives in food, well, preserve us. </content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 16 16:52:24 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>199157</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>rworange</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>199192</id>
      <content>The Diestel young hens are under $20. Expensive compared to the $7.99 birds at Safeway, but not atrocious like a Heritage bird. And certainly not too much to spend considering it's enough bird for half a dozen people.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 16 18:08:36 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>199157</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>nooodles</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>199186</id>
      <content>After a few phone calls a large cache of Diestel "petites" (that's what they're actually called), turned up at the California &amp; Van Ness Whole Foods. $2.99 a pound. They're fresh now, and the rest of the year they stock them frozen.
So thanks yet again, chowhounds!
I can't wait to stuff mon "petit" oiseau with fresh sage and watch him spinning on my little rotisserie!
</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 16 17:59:07 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>199050</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Niki Rothman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>199519</id>
      <content>i saw petite diestel turkeys at whole foods on sale for $2.49/lb through 11/29.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 18 14:38:36 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>199186</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>jade</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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