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Hell's Kitchen -- June 18 show

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weezycom Jun 19, 2007 07:35 AM

So, Aaron's gone but didn't get booted, and we don't know what his mystery ailment is.

Julia, the Waffle House cook, really rose to the occasion, but that was her specialty. But she definitely showed her ability to lead. Putting her up for elimination just shows how scared the other gals are of anyone with the ability to get the job done.

Glad to see Joanna go. Couldn't tell the crab was off? I've smelled bad crab before. How do you *not* know something's wrong?

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    jscott65 Jun 19, 2007 07:40 AM

    Not sure if I can make it through the whole season. The guys think they kicked butt last night, only because the rotten crab saved them. What a bunch of shoemakers!
    Gordon seems like he is ready to slit his wrists, and I feel the same way after last night.

    1. cdesoto Jun 19, 2007 08:05 AM

      The Casting Producer must of been desperate this season!! Don't know where they got these Bozos but none of them can even cook let alone run a restaurant. Taking food out of the garbage??? She should of been let go immediately!! This is more like a Jerry Springer Hell's Kitchen.

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      1. re: cdesoto
        chicgail Jun 19, 2007 09:23 AM

        I think they intentionally chose contestants whose backgrounds left them unprepared for working in an upscale kitchen. There's a short order cook and an assistant sous chef and a cook in a nursing home and and a line cook and a nanny who does some personal cheffing.

        Come on. That would be like me trying to make it in a Gordon Ramsey kitchen.

        That way Gordon can do his schtick.

        None of these contestants can hold a candle to either TC or NFNS in terms of talent or experience and it was designed that way.

        And yes, it is pretty boring. What make TC (and for that matter Project Runway and certain others) interesting is when the contestants are talented. Otherwise it's just another Survivor or Big Brother.

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        nuxvomica Jun 19, 2007 08:14 AM

        the format's tired, Ramsay's tired (and bored), contestants are unimpressive except for Julia and the whole thing is a snooze.

        and now a pr excercise for the army & navy.

        at this point, i'm wondering whether marco pierre white, who's supposedly taking over from ramsay next season, can bring something freash to it. esp. since he claims there won't be any yelling or crying, unless for joy.

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        1. re: nuxvomica
          free sample addict aka Tracy L Jun 24, 2007 02:51 PM

          Yeah they need to move on from risotto and wellington.

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            roasted138 Jun 28, 2007 03:56 PM

            Ain't that the truth!

        2. Megiac Jun 19, 2007 08:21 AM

          The casting of Aaron really bothers me. With most reality shows, the contestants go through extensive medical screening. With Aaron having problems from day one (H and I think he may have narcolepsy), I have a hard time believing that they didn't realize something like this would happen. Which makes me think that he was intentionally cast to create medical/physical drama. Totally irresponsible and morally reprehensible, but it really shouldn't be surprise me since this is Fox.

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          1. re: Megiac
            LindaWhit Jun 19, 2007 10:09 AM

            One person on the HK message boards says Aaron is acting...I'm sorry, I think this is WAY beyond acting! Another person said she knows Aaron very well and he WAS sick - not before the show, but it started right at the beginning of the taping. I did notice a hoarseness to his voice in the last two episodes, and especially when he was talking to Ramsay on the phone.

            I was (almost) surprised but glad to see Jen put herself on the block, especially since she said she wasn't one of the ones voting to put Julia up there - just Melissa, Bonnie, and Joanna were. Pretty damn obvious they were jealous of the way she took charge @ breakfast and helped the guys out. I was completely icked out that Jen actually took the pasta from the garbage and rinsed it to re-use - you're on national TV!

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              Megiac Jun 19, 2007 10:41 AM

              I was shocked by how much weight he had lost in just the first few episodes. When they cut from Ramsey on the phone with him to Ramsey spiking his chef's jacket, there was a substantial different in the roundness of his face.

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              silence9 Jun 20, 2007 02:27 PM

              On the first episode of this season, I really did not care for the manner in which Ramsey glowered at Aaron's sweaty face and spat out the ad hominem statement ".. you're a REAL chunky monkey, aren't you..". The surgical precision of the delivery and the subsequent savor (by Ramsey) at Aaron's discomfort at the verbal sucker-punch was unpleasant to witness; though no doubt meant to be a slam on Aaron's weight, the sheer below-the-belt quality of calling another human a monkey (much less a *fat* monkey) seemed almost, well, racial (one really needed to see/hear the jibe, to appreciate its untoward hostility). I think Ramsey chose his words poorly and was not being racial, but calling to a frightened asian contestant a fat monkey was uncalled for, and may have significantly contributed to Aaron's attempts to shed poundage in an unhealthy manner...

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                Leonardo Jun 20, 2007 03:28 PM

                While it surely was "sizist" (if that is in fact a word!), it wasn't racist. What, he's only allowed to insult white people? Equal means just that: he's going to insult & harrass everyone equally, the American way. =)
                By the way: calling someone a B & J flavor isn't the worst thing in the world, IMHO.
                Aaron has a host of physical & mental problems (diabetes/anxiety disorders/narcolepsy) and that's precisely why they picked him. Only 2-3 have any real talent or skill. Vinnie's bio says "Night Club Chef." I guess that translates as "Dive Bar Burger Flipper". He's there for his obnoxious attitude. Melissa's there for her looks, just like the one last year who was an undeserved finalist.
                It all comes down to ratings not abilities, the train wreck as others have posited. So it far more resembles Big Brother than TC or Project Runway.
                And yes, I'm sure the bad crab was a setup!

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                  silence9 Jun 20, 2007 04:05 PM

                  As I stated, I don't think Ramsey was being racist, either. Growing up, I recall a kool-aid type drink mix that had a flavor called Chinese Cherry, with a cartoon charatcer cherry, whose face had asian features. Never had a problem with the cartoon; had a big problem with getting on the school bus and having dozens of 7 year-olds pulling their eyes into tight slits and chanting "Chineeese Cherrrry! at me"... And I don't think calling someone a gazelle, a lion, or a snake will raise the racist-raider. Calling *anybody* a MONKEY (of whatever flavor) is just plain bad judgement, in my opinion...

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                    Withnail42 Jun 20, 2007 05:32 PM

                    If the worst thing his did was to call someone a Chunky Monkey then they got off easy.

                    He's often quick to comment on the girth of 'stocky' male contestants. He how how ever has never done so to a female. So he clearly not racist...he's sexist.

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                      youngho Jun 23, 2007 08:08 AM

                      He used to call Sara a fat cow in the last season. Gordon is simply misanthropic, rather than hating any specific subgroup of humanity.

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                        Withnail42 Jun 23, 2007 08:20 AM

                        Thank you Emily Post.

                        "But I'm sure facts won't change your mind." Not sure what to think of that remark. So I won't say anything.

                        I don't remember him calling her that. If he did then obviously I stand corrected.

                        FYI...the posting to which you so eloquently comment on was written 'tounge in cheek'. But I know these facts won't change your mind.

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                          youngho Jun 23, 2007 08:34 AM

                          Go here:

                          http://www.google.com/search?q=%22hell%27s+kitchen%22+%22fat+cow%22+sara&hl=en&domains=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tvgasm.com&sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tvgasm.com

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                    ML8000 Jun 21, 2007 12:16 AM

                    Monkey and racist overtones? See George Allen Jr. and macaca. Unintentional, didn't know the meaning..doesn't matter. One of Ramsey's (and the show's) big "bam moments" (a la Emeril) is the verbal take down. This sort of humiliation TV is the worse since it's really a S/M show.

              2. ajs228 Jun 19, 2007 08:26 AM

                I'm a little surprised that Jen wasn't sent home. Letting something slip by, even something as bad as rancid crab, is an honest mistake. Re-using food from the garbage is just disgusting.
                I think Aaron should have been sent home a while ago. If not because he's a huge drag on his team, then just for his own health. He obviously suffers from some condition brought on by stress, which is what this show thrives on.

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                1. re: ajs228
                  DanaB Jun 19, 2007 01:49 PM

                  I completely disagree, ajs! Jen exercised poor judgment in haste and in the moment. However, the food was never even plated, so in some ways it was no harm, no foul. She totally took responsibility for it and volunteered herself to be booted. Before that act, Jen seemed to be one of the better cooks. If she makes anything approaching a poor judgment call again, I'm sure she will go, but I think she deserved a second chance over Johanna, who time and again failed to get her dishes out, in whatever station she was put in. Plus, Johanna actually PLATED the rancid crab dish for service, which means she either has no sense of smell or was simply an idiot (like the guy who tried to serve the burnt wellington by "scraping off" the burned part, or the guy who served the raw chicken). Shellfish that has gone off has a distinctively foul odor and an even worse taste. If a chef can't tell something like that, I don't think they deserve to be in the kitchen.

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                    ajs228 Jun 19, 2007 02:50 PM

                    I agree with you Dana, and I'm no fan of Joanna, but Jen did try to plate the spaghetti. She was stopped by Julia, the one woman on the show who's consistantly shown sound judgement. Jen stepped up, which shows some sense of integrity, but doesn't excuse the poor judgement. Either Jen or Joanna could rightly have been sent home for their mistakes, but between the two, I'd have sent Jen packing.

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                      DanaB Jun 19, 2007 03:15 PM

                      Just wanted to point out a detail: Jen put the "washed" spaghetti in the hot water, and then Julia made her throw it away, so she technically didn't try to "plate" it.

                      Either way, I'm totally with you on the fact that both Jen and Johanna made terrible errors/errors of judgment and I wouldn't want either cooking for me!

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                        ajs228 Jun 19, 2007 03:30 PM

                        Just thought of something. I wonder if they boiled fresh water, or used the water that the "washed" pasta had been in? Ugh.

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                      HillJ Jun 23, 2007 08:29 AM

                      did anyone catch her licking the spoon?

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                    LStaff Jun 19, 2007 09:46 AM

                    Some on the HK board are speculating that he has diabetes. Could be an explanation, but I remember from episode 1, that he said he was not eating so he could loose weight and be "fit" for the team -maybe this could have exasperated whatever condition he has.

                    As far as the talent level, yeah this is the worst season so far. But for me it is more about being entertained and not about food or cooking. Gordon Ramsey could yell at a bunch of cardboard cutouts and I will still watch. And I'm loving that the wafflehouse girl seems to be the only one with enough organizational skills to run a kitchen even though she may not know much about fine dining.

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                      MsDiPesto Jun 19, 2007 10:14 AM

                      These contestants seem to have been chosen to ramp up the drama, to give Ramsey more excuses to yell and scream (and never instruct). It's getting to be predictable, and I watch it because it's such a train wreck.
                      Maybe they should air the time Ramsay got into a shoving match with a contestant that ended with the contestant falling down and suing Ramsay?
                      After he made those guys go peel potatoes, I expected to see a headline that read "Famed Brit Chef Gordon Ramsay, known for his temper, found face down in kitchen with four potato peelers plunged through his heart".

                    2. mnosyne Jun 19, 2007 10:11 AM

                      This year's show is exhausting and boring! There is nothing to learn. The food is uninteresting. The talent is talentless! Frankly, they could cut the season short and I wouldn't miss it.

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                      1. re: mnosyne
                        tastyjon Jun 20, 2007 10:52 PM

                        Agreed. I love Ramsey but this show is designed to please the masses watching the gladiator slay the fools. It gets tiring. I prefer his BBC shows where the focus is on food first, drama second.

                        Likewise the new season of Top Chef, while still a competition with varied and oft clashing personalities, is thankfully still mostly focused on food/cooking.

                      2. floretbroccoli Jun 20, 2007 08:20 AM

                        What I've been wondering is how much time did Jen think she would save by using the pasta from the garbage? Four minutes, maybe? Surely retrieving and washing the the spaghetti would take two or three minutes. And spaghetti takes what, seven minutes to cook? She would need boiling water in either case.

                        1. Withnail42 Jun 20, 2007 09:10 AM

                          I'd like to think that if it wasn't for Arron having to leave he would have kicked both women off. There is no excuse to pick food out of the garbage. I certainly wouldn't want to eat in a restaurant where a member of staff even thinks that it's okay to do so. Even though it's a TV show, I like his restaurants, and it kind of bothers me that Ramsay kept her.

                          As for serving bad crab I have no experience with that. But from what every one has said it must be pretty bad.

                          I like Julia and am now routing for her. She was the reason that they won. It is snobish of the others to look down on her. A short order cook in action is a great thing to see and is truly and artist.

                          http://meandmyfork.blogspot.com

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                            melly Jun 20, 2007 11:42 AM

                            Why was there bad crab? The purveyor sent them bad crab? Not likely.

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                              SusanB Jun 20, 2007 11:58 AM

                              I wondered if the bad crab was a setup. That way, they would be testing someone and Ramsay could do his screaming and shouting routine. I watch the show, but it's like watching a train wreck. I find him repulsive, even when he's trying to be charming.

                          2. coastie Jun 20, 2007 12:06 PM

                            Anyone in these kitchens ever heard of a tasting spoon - one must taste your food!!! But , you don't eat off the tongs or put your finger in the sauce Come on this is on tv and we can keep the basic rules of sanitation in play. I require my cooks to taste their food - I also require the use of disposable spoons or those silly little sticks they use for tasting ice cream.....
                            I wasn't paying that much attention but counted three times they were just chowing on the food without washing and yes eating off the tongs - that one really got me because lets face it , it used to be perfectly acceptable to taste with a quick finger tip. - but eating off your tongs.....

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                              MsDiPesto Jun 23, 2007 02:33 PM

                              Glad I'm not the only one who was bothered by her licking the tongs...yuck!

                            2. SweetPhyl Jun 20, 2007 12:25 PM

                              Aaron was probably suffering from dehydration. His attempt to lose weight and be fit for the team resulted in him not taking in enough fluids. That would explain the cramping, the dizziness and fainting...and the IV in his arm at the hospital.

                              And, if Julia, the short order cook, doesn't win, it's obvious that it's a set up...she's the only one with any ability in the kitchen. Rock seems to know what he's doing, but hehasn't stepped it up, yet.

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                                RBCal Jun 20, 2007 01:49 PM

                                I personally think Melissa needs to go. She gets by only on her looks and Ramsey obviously favors her for that. She continually wants to nominate Julia even after Julia saved their team several times. Melissa is a catty woman who is threatened by other women who are more competent than her.

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                                  HollyDolly Jun 21, 2007 08:22 AM

                                  haven't seen the show yet this season.Oh,by the way,who was the real young looking guy that was kind of short and I think had glasses?I seem to recall in the tv commercial he was cooking pasta.He looked very young,like he was in his teens,not twenties.I think he was first to go maybe?

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                                    silence9 Jun 21, 2007 08:38 AM

                                    I believe that fellow stated that he has a kidney disorder that results in shortened height and perpetual adolescent features, possible like Gary Coleman? I'm sure there is a much more accurate and clinical term for this...

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                                      youngho Jun 23, 2007 08:12 AM

                                      Eddie overwhelmingly likely had to take steroids for his unspecified kidney condition. Steroids can have a range of systemic effects, including acne, cataracts, decreased bone growth, and "Cushingoid facies."

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                                      LindaWhit Jun 21, 2007 10:09 AM

                                      That was Eddie. Second to get booted. And I think silence9 is right about the kidney disorder.

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