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Japanese pubs around St. Marks??

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adorno Jun 14, 2007 01:42 PM

I wanted to get chowhounders' views of the various izakayas around St. Marks. We go to Go but are a little tired of it. But that's the sort of thing we're looking for. We like Soba-ya but what we're looking for now is something more downscale. We have a new baby and need something simple and easy. And it shouldn't be too much farther east than the first block of St. Marks or it starts to get too far from home for us (Washington Square area).

Any thoughts?

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    kayonyc RE: adorno Jun 14, 2007 02:05 PM

    Kasadela 647 E. 11th St. Great dishes, good sake selection and ambience.
    Uminoie 86 E. 3rd St (between 1st and 2nd Aves), Good sho-chu selection, regional home cooking.

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      adorno RE: kayonyc Jun 14, 2007 03:35 PM

      Those are both too far for us. Anything further west that you'd recommend?

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        bigjeff RE: kayonyc Jun 17, 2007 11:35 AM

        kasadela also ends up expensive for me, for some reason. there is also chiyono which is not full-scale izakaya, but snacky. it's on e6th st btwn 1st and 2nd, very downhome, croquettes and the like.

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          Peter Cuce RE: bigjeff Jun 19, 2007 07:23 AM

          The food at Chiyono is a little *too* homey for me, kind of like Japanese food that I might turn out. I'd be proud of it, but I'd never try to sell it to anybody.

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            bigjeff RE: Peter Cuce Jun 19, 2007 09:08 AM

            ya its definitely downscale, very different from kasadela and maybe good for the kid I was thinking?

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              Silverjay RE: Peter Cuce Jun 19, 2007 08:39 PM

              I think there's a niche for this type of restaurant- particularly for busy or lazy Japanese expats. Not sure of their business model, but they could probably do a decent bento delivery business to Japanese corporate offices in mid-town. I'm sure they can make better quality stuff then some of the bento chop shops in Queens.

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                Peter Cuce RE: Silverjay Jun 19, 2007 09:00 PM

                I think their business model is "going out of business soon." I've never seen a crowd in there. And what's with that giant communal table in the middle?

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              kathryn RE: bigjeff Jun 19, 2007 09:30 AM

              I recently tried Kyoya, another Japanese homecooking place, that seems a little more upscale that Chiyono. When I was there, I had a light meal of some fresh wild salmon sashimi, pressed sushi (oshizushi ), some special variety of edamame that had a slight corn flavor, and a bottle of sparkling sake.

          2. Silverjay RE: adorno Jun 14, 2007 03:21 PM

            Isn't the noun "chowhounds"? But I kind of like "chowhounders".....Anyway, you can try Natori on SM between 1st and 2nd, which is more toward restaurant than izakaya, but is down-scale and inexpensive. Izakaya, by definition, are drinking establishements, so Soba-ya is not an izakaya. Village Yokocho, across from Soba-ya and next to Sunrise Mart, which does yaki-tori and some seasonal izakaya dishes, is less crowded than the SM places.

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              adorno RE: Silverjay Jun 14, 2007 03:38 PM

              Thanks. 1nd and 2nd are probably too far for us with the baby. But Village Yokocho sounds good. By the way, just to clarify: I knew that Soba-ya wasn't an izakaya but I mentioned it because I knew someone would probably suggest it and I wanted to clarify that it was a step above what we are looking for -- namely, an izakaya with ease, drinks, quick food, and the sort of informality that would allow us to bring a baby and not have to deal with anything too difficult.

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                Simon RE: adorno Jun 20, 2007 12:17 AM

                i second Silverjay's rec of Natori...Natori is only about 70 yards east of Go, which you mentioned as a favorite, so it's really not very far...

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                corvin RE: Silverjay Jun 15, 2007 10:20 AM

                I agree with silverjay, Natori might be what you are looking for. Still fun but not so crazy and crowded

              3. DarthEater RE: adorno Jun 14, 2007 09:44 PM

                Menkuitei? Its spacious enough to bring a stroller in. And its not crazy rowdy in there.

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                  adorno RE: DarthEater Jun 15, 2007 05:57 AM

                  Can you tell me more about it? Is it on St. Marks and what's the food like?

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                    kathryn RE: adorno Jun 15, 2007 07:56 AM

                    It's just off St Marks on 3rd Ave between 7th and St Marks. It's more of a noodle shop than anything else. I tried it once, found the broth to be too salty, but friends of mine like it. It's related to the Men Kui Tei in Midtown, I believe.

                    I too would recommend Village Yokocho although I've had to wait for a table on weekend nights at prime time. Any other time, though, it's not that busy, but I wouldn't bring a stroller in there since it's not too spacious and it's on the 2nd floor.

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                      whiterabbit RE: kathryn Jun 17, 2007 03:27 PM

                      Another vote for Village Yokocho. Grilled sardines = delicious. Cocktails after at Angel's Share...BigJeff and I are in the same boat with Kasadela - the sake list just kills you. I went the other day, had beer, and twice as much food, and the bill was much more agreeable.

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                        windycity RE: kathryn Jun 19, 2007 04:14 PM

                        It is related to Menkuitei in midtown, but I think their broth and noodles taste so much better (probably due to high turnover of food at all hours.)

                        Menkuitei across from Cooper Union has excellent ramen and soba (Tonkatsu is my fave at $7.50) with lots of pork and seafood options. But it is a bad place to bring a vegetarian, as my friend discovered. It's low key, and usually a meal with drinks for two will run in the mid-20s so it's very affordable.

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                    kobetobiko RE: adorno Jun 18, 2007 07:11 PM

                    You can try Hasaki on 210 E 9th St btwn 2nd & 3rd Ave. This place has been opened for like 20 years, and their food is very solid and have a wide variety. I particularly like to order their tempura a la carte- ginko nut and lotus root tempura!

                    It is usually not too crowded during the weekdays.

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