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ocean and vine or abode for cozy anniversary dinner?

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mandela Jun 13, 2007 12:01 PM

help me decide between ocean and vine and abode for a cozy anniversary dinner in santa monica. my honey and i are getting a massage at 5:30pm, so we're looking for a dinner place that will be cozy and romantic, not too stuffy or uncomfortable. we're getting the massage at exhale (2nd and arizona), so we'd like someplace we can walk to from there.

i thought ocean and vine seemed nice from the website, and i've heard such great things about abode...i'm just not sure which suits the occasion better. money's not an issue.

any advice would be great! i'm also open to other suggestions in the area.

thanks!

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    Diana Jun 14, 2007 12:20 PM

    ON arizona and Third is laconda Del Lago. Really nice Italian. I had a good meal there.

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      mandela Jun 14, 2007 11:45 AM

      thanks you guys so much for your advice - we're definitely going to abode!

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      1. re: mandela
        goodhealthgourmet Jun 14, 2007 12:16 PM

        let us know how it goes, and happy anniversary!

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        holy chow Jun 13, 2007 05:39 PM

        Anything but Ocean and Vine. I ate there and had a horrible time...

        http://www.chowhound.com/topics/38779...

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        1. re: holy chow
          goodhealthgourmet Jun 13, 2007 11:08 PM

          ahh, so i'm not the only one!

          i had a horrible experience when we ATTEMPTED to eat breakfast there as well. after verifying with the staff in the lobby bar that we could eat breakfast on the patio, we were seated out there only to discover that they don't have breakfast items on that aprticular menu, and wouldn't allow us to order other things from the restaurant menu. by the time they got their act together & moved us inside, the manager at ocean & vine refused to seat us because they were in between seatings & in the process of replenishing the buffet! our only 'option' was to wait another 30 minutes.

          we walked over to jinky's instead. which of course meant that it ended up being just as long [if not longer] before we finally got to eat, but i wasn't about to give o & v any money after the way they handled the situation.

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          yogachik Jun 13, 2007 04:05 PM

          Definitely Abode.

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            New Trial Jun 13, 2007 03:27 PM

            Abode would be a more romantic choice and, I think, serves the better food. Ocean & Vine does have the view and the firepits but it always has felt a bit sterile, even more so since the wonderful opening manager, Mandie, left. If you go to Abode, there are these nice, semi-curtained booths against the wall that might be perfect for an anniversary dinner.

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              vinosnob Jun 13, 2007 02:52 PM

              As another option, I would suggest Jiraffe and get a table on the second floor; I prefer the table in the right corner. Enjoyed a really fine dinner there a month ago in terms of food, service and ambience.

              1. mollyomormon Jun 13, 2007 12:12 PM

                I would definitely recommend Abode! It's perfect food for a special dinner without being stuffy at all. I hear that the chef is doing tasting menus there now so maybe you could do that (and report back here since I'm dying to hear how the tasting menu is)!

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                1. re: mollyomormon
                  hrhboo Jun 13, 2007 12:23 PM

                  I'm having a tasting menu there this weekend, I'll post details!

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                    mollyomormon Jun 13, 2007 02:57 PM

                    Yay! I can't wait to hear about it...

                2. goodhealthgourmet Jun 13, 2007 12:08 PM

                  fellow hounds seem to love abode...i've never been so i can't vouch for it. but i had dinner @ 'ocean & vine' last month, and was underwhelmed. my companions seemed to enjoy their meals [i tasted the bass and it was nice, but nothing special], unfortunately i had to send my calamari back. twice. i hate giving servers/restaurants a hard time [been there]. but the dish was so beyond oversalted that i was literally gagging after one bite. [who even salts calamari to begin with? it's so naturally salty already!] i wasn't even impressed with the complimentary chocolate truffles they brought us at the end of the meal, and i'm a raging chocoholic. they were way too chilled/cold.

                  plus, although the fire pit is a nice idea, it doesn't necessarily inspire romance, and the acoustics in there can make the noise level far from cozy.

                  so in case you haven't figured it out, i'd say skip 'ocean & vine.'

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                    mandela Jun 13, 2007 12:11 PM

                    this is exactly the kind of input i was looking for - thanks ghg!

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