MSP - Food stores other than WF
- MMRuth Jun 12, 2007 01:34 PM
Hi from an NYC Chowhound! I'm keeping my fingers crossed that we get to, once again, spend a week this summer at a lake-side house in Northern Wisconsin. This involves flying into MSP and renting a car, shopping for a week's worth of food (and maybe wine) before driving to Wisconsin. (The pickings are pretty slim where we're going - about 45 minutes NE of Heyward - both in terms of restaurants, with one exception, and ingredients). In the past couple of years - thanks to help from MSP 'hounds, we've stopped at Whole Foods in St. Paul to stock up for my week of marathon cooking, and also went to a great wine store en route from the airport to WF. Last year we were travelling w/ our dog, so opted to have Sam's in Chicago ship two cases of wine (no, there are more than the two of us at our destination point - various family members!).
However, my question is, are there convenient and better alternatives to Whole Foods? I am basically in need of buying essentials - olive oil, sea salt, good vinegars, Italian dried pasta, San Marzano canned tomotoes, etc., wonderful cheeses, some meats, maybe a little bit of seafood (we get it on ice and buy some special bags to keep the food cold for the 3 hour drive) and vegetables/herbs to last us through at least a couple of days. Whole Foods is quite good, but my husband keeps complaining about how they completely butcher the prosciutto (we bought 2lbs last year and it was completely hacked up). Our hitch is that we'll have been travelling since the early morning from NYC, with dog who hates to travel, and then face this 3 hour drive, so we don't want to have to go from store to store to provision ourselves, but are wondering if there are WF alternatives that might work for us. The WF store seems pretty convenient in terms of access from the airport and on our way to Wisconsin.
Thanks so much!
Edit - I found one of my old threads - the wine store we went to was Solo Vino, which I remember being wonderful - http://www.chowhound.com/topics/12327...
Would does the Mississippi Market carry all of the things that we need to pick up?
Mississippi Market has the oil, salt, vinegars, pasta, cheeses, meats, vegetables, herbs. Maybe the seafood, depending on what you want. Not sure about the San Marzano tomatoes; I'll check when I visit this week and get back to you, if you don't hear from others sooner. I'll do a seafood check too.
If the seafood at Miss doesn't satisfy it would be very easy and not out of your way to stop at Coastal Seafoods on Snelling on your way over to Solo Vino and the Market.
Proscuitto is the only real problem. I always get mine from one of the local Italian markets, and don't recall seeing anything other than the prepackaged stuff at the Market. I'll doublecheck on that too, though.
I'd go to Mississippi Market over Whole Foods, with the caveat that they might not have one or two things on your list - for example, not as much selection for meat and seafood. They have more organic food and a bit less imported stuff. But they're conveniently close to Solo Vino (what a nice little wine shop!) and easy to get to from the airport (but use a map to get from the freeway exit to the store - there are a bunch of twists and turns).
Coastal Seafood is a good tip! And, worst case, Whole Foods is just a few blocks away from Coastal in case you must make another stop.
Alas, proscuitto is a "specialty deli" item in this town. You could swing by Buon Giorno on your way up Hwy 35E (Lilydale/Hwy 13 exit), but that's yet another stop.
P.S. If you had more time, I'd recommend the Wedge over Mississippi Market - it's a fun place to shop. But it's harder to get to, difficult to park, and it's not particularly close to any good wine stores. And I don't think they hand-slice their proscuitto, either. But someday, when you have tons of time, it's worth a visit.
Cossetta's in Downtown St. Paul is a great source for San Marzano tomatoes:
211 Seventh St W
St Paul, MN
Phone: (651) 222-3476
They have lots of other Italian provisions, and they are notably cheaper than Buon Giorno on many items.
You can't get seafood there, though. There is a location of Mississippi Market not too far from t here.
622 Selby Avenue
Saint Paul, MN 55104
Hours: 8:30 am to 9:30 pm
They'd be my one-two stop for what you're aiming for.
I was thinking of Cossetta's too--it's just on the edge of downtown St. Paul.
I really enjoyed my stop at Cossetta's this weekend. The cheeses (we tried the ricotta, provolone, and mozzarella), breads (we tried a French baguette and a loaf of "peasant bread") and deli items (we tried the capicola) were all lovely. They have a zillion varieties dried pastas and olive oils and canned tomato products. I didn't notice the vinegars, but I'll bet they have them too (I'd be willing to call over and ask what they carry if it becomes "a finalist".)
But they probably won't have much in the way of other kinds of meats or seafood.
You could swing by Mississippi Market (Selby/Dale location) to supplement what you'd get at Cossetta's, and that wouldn't be too far from Solo Vino, which is also on Selby.
If you wanted to make a millions stops in the same general area (I'm guessing you don't):
There's Great Harvest (fresh baked bread) on Selby.
Widmer's, old fashioned butcher
And, yes, Coastal Seafoods on Snelling, just a few blocks South of Selby would be the best stop for seafood.
All these places would be within about 10 blocks of each other, except for Cossetta's which, again, is at the edge of downtown St. Paul.
re: The Dairy Queen
If you only have time/energy for one stop - hit Kowalskis market on grand (about 1 mile east of WF) or Lunds (ford parkway) in St Paul. Both have boar's head products & generally solid provisions. & both are on the way from the airport to 94....
But you can't go wrong with the above recommendations!
& I highly recommend coastal seafoods - they have yummy crab cakes which you can also get frozen instead of thawed so they'll keep for mid week/end of week dining. (you might want to call ahead to save time - sometimes it can be crowded)
2 blocks north of Coastal (and midway btw WF & kowlaskis) on the corner of grand and snelling is breadsmith which is excellent as well. Bakery w/ some great quick breads & foccicas.
Hae a great trip!
Do you take I-494/I-94 east into Wisconsin and then Highway 63 up to Hayward? (I ask because knowing this would let me know your proximity to various stores and there are, after all, other ways to go).
Regardless, many in MSP don't realize how good we have things with our grocery stores. You can get everything on your list, including some "exotic" items (vast array of oils, salts, seasonings, etc.) even at local chains here. One of our "high-end" grocery stores is a mini-chain called Kowalski's.
If I were guiding visiting friends and family, I would recommend exiting the airport, taking 5 east to Highway 55 south (Mendota Heights). Follow that across the river and then veer onto 110. After about two miles (Dodd Rd) you will be at The Village at Mendota Heights. In there is a nice cheese shop, E's Cheese, a wine shop (The Wine Shop by Kowalski's) and a little specialty market (Sage Market & Wine Bar...also run by Kowalski's).
There are links to all three via the following web site:
Now...none of these will be the premier wine/cheese/grocery outlet in the Twin Cities. But, each has a good selection, they're all 4 miles from the airport (on your way even) and within 25 yards of each other.
After you load up, from there, you simply continue on 110 another couple of miles and that hits I-494. Take 494 east to 94 as you normally would coming from the airport and after a couple miles on 94, you will see Radio Drive in Woodbury. Two miles south of 94 on Radio Drive is a very large Kowalski's store.
You'll find everything you need there and you won't have to sacrifice much, if anything, in quality from the local co-ops. The seafood and deli selections will be more vast.
That's my best advice for everything you need in two stops and less than two miles off the route you would normally take anyway. Otherwise, if you like Italian meat, cheese and especially Italian wine, substitute a stop at Buon Giorno Market (at Highway 13 and I-35E in Lilydale) for the aforementioned Mendota Heights Stuff. From Buon Giorno, you would still link up, via 35E south, to 110 east, etc. Just a wee bit farther out of your way.
re: The Dairy Queen
It's in a separate section to the left. When you walk in, just look left -- it's a huge, cool-looking room. (If I ever had an event to plan for +/- 40 people, I would rent that space...they do rent it out and I Nonni would cater). What a great event space. Check out the web site and click on Wine Shop. There's a wine list and photo that doesn't quite capture the space.
Yeah...I kind of felt like a shill for Kowalski's with that post, but it's such a no brainer when you look at a map. Everything is right there along the route one would take and great groceries to boot.
I like Kowalski's better than Lunds/Byerly's. I have a great time there finding specialty items/hard to find items. The produce is good. Lots of local product lines. Good selection of artisanal foods. I also really like that the stores are small. Well, I hear Woodbury is big, but it's on the other side of the world from me. The Kowalski's in my neck of the woods are neighborhood stores, I you can get in and out fast. The checkout lines are also really speedy. The meat counter is great.
Alas, it's expensive there. At times, very expensive. I usually only buy specialty items or "treats", and maybe the occasional odd "regular" item because I'm there already.
I'm going to go off the board a little and suggest the Midtown Global Market. (http://www.midtownglobalmarket.org/). You should be able to get most of your provisions there -- although I'm not certain about seafood. You'll also be able to support the local owners of the stores within.
From the airport, take 5 to 55 to 62 to 35W. Get off at the Lake Street exit and turn right on Lake. It's about 10 blocks from the exit.
Wine is available at Chicago Lake Liquors across the street (named after the intersection at which it's located). It's not the best selection ever -- certainly not on par with Solo Vino -- but has the basics. Their web site is: http://chicagolakeliquors.com
(Edit: I just looked at their website -- it's a better selection than I remember. If you're looking for something special, I'd confirm with them ahead of time.)
You might even be able to order your wine ahead of time and then just run in to pay for it and pick it up.
Also, I don't know if you're going to be anywhere near Iron River, WI, but there's a natural food coop there that has a decent (for the area) assortment of bulk and natural food. I wouldn't rely on it exclusively but if you are in a pinch, it may be your best bet.
re: bob s
MGM is great for what it is, yet it may not be quite a match to what MMRuth seeks.
Looking at her original shopping list -- olive oil, sea salt, good vinegars, Italian dried pasta, San Marzano canned tomotoes, etc., wonderful cheeses, some meats, maybe a little bit of seafood and vegetables/herbs -- I would respectfully disagree that MGM offers the majority of what she seeks, particularly if her husband is attentive to how the prosciutto is sliced.
Given her travel burden, here is my recommendation:
From the airport, take 5 East toward St. Paul, and then 55 West toward Minneapolis (not over the Mendota Heights bridge). Follow Route 55 as it bears off to the right to become Hiawatha Avenue. At the traffic light for 54th Street, turn right into Minnehaha Park. At your first available parking spot, stop and walk the dog. (The dog park's right there.)
When the dog has settled down a bit, take either Hiawatha or the park's curvy stretch of Minnehaha Ave up to 46th Street. Turn right and follow it east across the river until it becomes Ford Parkway. Go straight on Ford Parkway up the hill to Fairview Ave.
Turn left on Fairview Ave and follow it through the campus for the College of St. Catherine. to St. Clair Ave. Turn right, and half a block up on the left is a great little shop called The Wine Thief. They have a good & unusual selection.
That done, continue straight east on St. Clair Ave to Snelling Ave. Turn left on Snelling and continue until you see the campus/construction site that is Macalester College on your left. Coastal Seafoods is on your right, between Lincoln and Grand Ave. Park where you can, and pick up seafood plus accompaniaments.
(If you'd like bread, walk across Grand Ave to Great Harvest. Duck into Dunn Bros for coffee beans. What time did you need to be in Hayward?)
Back in the car, turn right on Grand Ave and go east 5 blocks to Kowalski's for groceries.
Once that's done, go 2-3 blocks further east on Grand Ave to Lexington Parkway. Turn left on Lexington and follow it to I-94, then continue as you would to Wisconsin..
Have a great trip!
I stand corrected. I did look at her list -- but my memory failed me. I had recalled that there was a decent Italian deli at MGM and my cursory review of the MGM website led me to think it was Jakeeno's. However, upon closer look at Jakeeno's site, I'm pretty certain that was not the place. So perhaps that's not the best place for MMRuth. (I could swear there was a good Italian place though..... Age must be catching up with me!)
Well, you are all terribly kind - and I hope this trip works out so that I can take advantage of all of your ideas. FWIW - we usually head north on 35E and then head east on 70, just south of Pine City. But, we can go the other way - east on 94 and then start making our way north in Wisconsin (yes, I think on 63 - we have about 45 minutes to go or so once we get to Heyward) - all depends on the chow! And, for what it's worth, I am a transplanted mid-Westerner of sorts - born in Moline, IL, Dad lives in Iowa now, though my total time living in the region was my first two years and a couple of summers in Des Moines and Cedar Rapids. And - the prosciutto thing - not essential - just more the trigger that led us to think that maybe there were better options in the area. Again - my v. grateful thanks - M.
MMRuth, no worries. You can still go either way with MSPD's recommendation or mine.
For my recommendation, once you get on 94 east, a few exits later is "spaghetti junction" which is not as chow-worthy as you'd think but rather is where 94 and 35E meet up. You can take up your usual route from there.
For MSPD's recommendation, there's a way somehow to get back to 35E from Dodd Road, but I'll leave that to his capable explanations.
One word, Surdyks. For those item's you specifically requested, it and Broders Cucina are your top spots in Minneapolis (if you make it that far west). Surdyks has the distinction of also having good wines (though absurdly, they do not accept AMEX). Or make a weekend of it and visit:
Lakewinds Natural Foods appears to be in Chanhassen. They also have a store in Minnetonka.
435 Pond Promenade
Chanhassen, MN 55317
It is in the same coop group that the Wedge and Seward and Eastside are a part of. I have never been, but the website sure looks nice! Additionally, it appears to have won a Best of the TC award from CP this year.
Well, pending confirmation tonight, it looks like we're going to get to go, and are planning to spend a night in MSP (very exciting - we've had two sushi lunches there - one okay, one quite good - but that is the extent of our local dining), so we'll be able to take advantage of all of your recommendations without any time constraints.
Solo Vino is wonderful. It's all about the selection and the fact that they taste everything in the store so I can try stuff I don't know and be reasonably sure I'll get a at least a decent wine. Get some pink wine. It'll be good in the hot weather.
Whole Foods seems to have a real love-hate relationship with meat and I wouldn't go for their seafood. The beef, lamb, pork and chicken seem to be good (better than Kowalski's IMO) but cold cuts there are handled by Vegans or something. Do NOT get prosciutto from them.
If you are in a hurry, Kowakski's about 1 mile east of Whole Foods on Grand will do ok on Prosciutto. You don't have the time to drive across town to 50th and Penn to go to Broder's. They have salamis and lardo and such from Mario Batali's father's place in Seattle. That stuff rocks my tongue. However, if you did go to Broder's, they import a really fantastic unfiltered olive oil from Calabria and it's not a bad price at like $15 / litre.
Coastal Seafoods. Go there. It's on Snelling, just south of Grand.
To really eat well, you'll stop at Whole Foods for most of your stuff, Coastal for Seafood and Kowalski's for cold cuts. If you wanted Jewish cold cuts, you'd hit Cecil's deli on Cleveland on your way from the Airport to WF. Yeah, that's the ticket....
Airport to Cecil's for pastrami, rye, corned beef, then up Cleveland to Grand, over to WF, and down Grand to Snelling, Coastal's at that corner, then to Kowalski's.
If you want an Italian market on the east side of town, you'd stop at Cosetta's or Buorn Giorno. If you went to Buon Giorno, you could pick up some nice Barbaresco or Dolcetto.
Drop your husband and dog on Summit Ave. They can walk/play in the boulevard while you shop.
All wonderful suggestions - thank you - including leaving husband and dog at the park! Fortunately, we're now going to have an overnight stay in MSP - dog friendly location to be determined - and so will have plenty of time to explore all of the many and thoughtful suggestions by MSP 'hounds. Thank you all once again!
I'm not sure if I've read allthe details but is there some reason you can't
stop at either the byerly's on suburban off 94? (they have prosciuotto hand sliced and good seafood as well as san marzano tomatoes in cans etc) or if that doesn't work you could go to the kowalski's in woodbury (I'm guessing if you're going to hayward you'll be heading up 35?) You could also try Morelli's mkt on the eastside on payne ave.They have prosciuotto as well as tomatoes,imported pastas olive oil etc.) Buon giorno is also nearby..
Maybe I'm getting in on this all too late..
I would personally go to Costco. You'd have to drive about 15 minutes west of the airport to either Eden Prairie or St. Louis Park. Fabulous everything and large amounts. Good wines too. Love their guac and flatbread crackers. Great seafood deals too. Much better than Sams Club I think anyway. Also Trader Joes for wine. Their burritoes are tasty, microwavable and cheap. You have to go to St. Louis Park for TJ. New one will be coming I think to Woodbury by fall so maybe next summer if you come back...
Heading out to MSP this afternoon - trying map some of the places you recommended! Thanks again.
74 Snelling Ave S, St Paul, MN 55105
2330 Minnehaha Ave, Minneapolis, MN 55404
5801 W 16th St, Minneapolis, MN 55416
1261 Grand Ave, St Paul, MN 55105
981 sibley memorial hwy, Lilydale, MN 55118
Thanks to all for your advice. We ended up arriving v. late on a Saturday evening at the Westin in downtown Minneapolis. Bank looked like quite the happening place at 10:30 pm, but since we had the dog, we ordered room service, which was sadly a mistake. Just as a caution to any of you w/ guests staying there - keep them away from room service. We had possibly the worst club sandwich I've had in my life (processed cheese slices that looked like they'd sat open on the counter for an hour or two, processed/composite turkey etc.), another sandwich best forgotten, something called fried calamari on a bed of frisee that consisted of four limp pieces of calamari on a huge bed of limp frisee. This, a diet coke and a glass of wine was $71. So sad - and we were so hungry! The fries were decent though! Given that experience, I forewent my favorite thing in life - room service breakfast. The breakfast buffet at Bank looked v. nice the next morning, but by then we were in a rush, though the dog enjoyed his first strip of bacon thanks to the manager!
Off to go shopping, and we ended up at Kowalski's in St. Paul for the major grocery shopping. Generally a more pleasant experience than WFs, wider aisles etc., very nice produce - fresh herbs seemed very expensive to me, compared to NYC. We got some beautiful wild salmon there. Decided to head to WFs for cheese and meat and a couple of WF brand items that we like. The cheese counter looked a bit worse for wear - I tasted a couple of cheeses before buying them as some wrapped things looked off, but we also ended up w/ a $16 epoisse that was off. Prosciutto was the same sad tale, and not even Italian, we wised up and bought 1/2 pound instead of the two pounds last year. We'd thought about heading to Buon Giorno (sp?) per a number of suggestions, but by the time I'd finished grocery shopping for 10 days of cooking, I was ready to hit the road. I realized that I'm not used to doing huge shoppings (smile). The very nice young men at the checkout at Kowalski's asked me how long this would last!! I had a great time cooking it all and my father and step-mother were most appreciative of my MSP derived cooking!
So, due to my own short comings, and not all of the wonderful advice from MSP 'hounds, I didn't try out a lot of your recommendations, but maybe will plan better next year (we had to change our tickets and so our timing was less than ideal for shopping). We grabbed a sandwich at D'Amico's on Grand before heading north - my husband said that his hot panini reminded him of wonderful sandwiches in his youth at the cafeteria at the Supreme Court in the DR - too funny.
Here' s a link to my Wisconsin trip report, if any of you ever head to Bayfield/Ashland counties:
Not far from the Airport is a local Italian deli that may be worth the trip since it is close. Briano's in Eagan right off 77 on Cliff Road.