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wongman Jun 7, 2007 05:33 PM

Typically when I cook small portion size fillets I dredge in a little flour, dust off excess, sear the outsides in a hot pan, and finish in the oven. So I was wondering...what do you in the event of using a whole full size (computer keyboard length) fillet. I don't think I can sear the outsides and keep it in one piece. Any suggestions on an oven only cooking process (that'd preferably still have a little crust on the outside)? Broiler? Never really did this big of a piece before, so I'm not too sure about timing/temperature. Still looking for that medium done-ness. Since it won't touch a skillet or anything, is there any need to do the flour thing? Thanks!

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    Louise Jun 8, 2007 03:51 PM

    Not crispy, but misoyaki is very tasty as a marinade/glaze. Thin white miso with mirin and add a tiny bit sugar. Pour over fish and let sit overnight. Remove from marinade, leaving some on the surface, and bake/broil. Delicious.

    1. Miss Needle Jun 8, 2007 09:12 AM

      I do think it's hard to get a crispy crust on a whole salmon. Personally, I would roast it in kosher salt or coarse sea salt.

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        OrganicLife Jun 8, 2007 12:46 PM

        I second the salt crust. I do this to whole fish often and it is delicious!!!!

        Or most certainly invest in a fish poacher. (Crate and Barrel makes a decent one) I like to add all sorts of fresh herbs or sliced cucumbers to the poaching broth. Can't go wrong with lots of dill.

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          itryalot Jun 8, 2007 04:00 PM

          I triple the coarse sea salt. No flour either. You can broil for part of the cooking to sear the crust if you want to do it in the oven. I start on broil, flip, reduce heat and cook.

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          Amanita Jun 8, 2007 08:58 AM

          I always just throw mine into the oven, no seasoning. No flour, what a hassle. The farmed salmon is so fatty that parts of it get sort of crisp, geez. Que veut le peuple?

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            holy chow Jun 8, 2007 06:53 AM

            Griddle pan.

            Heat it hot and give it a light coating of oil (and coat the fish). Simple salt and pepper and sear the sides. If you are cooking to "done" on the inside, your flip will be a challenge. Start skin side up and finish skin side down. Use fish spatulas if you have them, they really work.

            I prefer rare salmon and use the "hand test" like I do red meat. It is tasty, but as a benefit much easier to work with and less likely to break apart.

            1. digkv Jun 7, 2007 08:05 PM

              I once saw Ina put panko bread crumbs on her salmon while it was roasting. I assume that the bread crumbs would create a crust, of course, you're probably looking for a natural crispiness. Might I suggest using a griddle or perhaps barbecuing it? Of course, if it still has the skin on it, that can be easily crisped under a broiler or on a bbq.

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                wongman Jun 8, 2007 05:10 PM

                interesting idea... I'll keep that in mind. I usually use panko for salmon or crab cakes so I imagine it would be pretty good.

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                  oakjoan Jun 8, 2007 11:03 PM

                  Panko rules! I use them crumbs all the time. Hip, hip hoorah for panko!

                  I had a really great piece of outdoor grilled salmon on a cedar plank. I don't know if this is all the rage or sooooo last year, but it was totally delicious.

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                jerry i h Jun 7, 2007 06:52 PM

                Sorry, friend, no way that I have ever heard to cook a whole salmon fillet and also get a crispy crust. Your choices are:
                1) cut into the usual size pieces and cook as you described by deep frying
                2) poach it whole in a 24 inch fish poaching pan, but it won't have a crispy crust.
                If anyone knows of a way to do this as asked, please let us know. I worked once as a fish monger, and the request, as I understand, ain't gonna work.

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                  lunchbox Jun 8, 2007 11:23 AM

                  I have seared a whole side of salmon with a crust many times- I was using a tilt skillet (a 24x36 surface), a thin even coat of oil and an 8" spatula in each hand. A catering trick for reducing sticking and for getting a crust is to use bakers' pan spray on the surface of the meat- it contains a little bit of flour that will brown and enough lube to release the fish.

                  Her's what I would do- Like Holy Chow says below, get a griddle pan that covers 2 burners or more. Get it HOT, then apply a thin coat of a high smoke-point oil with a rag or paper towel. Have a preheated 400 degree oven and a sheet pan standing by. Season the filet with S&P, then spray liberally with the baker's spray. Using twohands, lift the fish over the pan, then flip it TOWARDS you to place it flesh sided down and let it sear. Let it go longer than you think before touching it- there is quite a lot of moisture escaping from the fish that has further to go to escape. When it is well browned, use two 8" hamburger-flipper style spatulas to get under the fish- think like skis- vorm a "v" to support the whole fillet. The hardest part is flipping it back over onto the sheet pan to finish in the oven.

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                    wongman Jun 8, 2007 05:09 PM

                    excellent...griddle pan it is. thanks!

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                      Jambalaya Jun 9, 2007 06:25 AM

                      This sounds like a great method. To this I would add a recipe from this year's June issue of Gourmet. They did an article on various salmon cooking methods. In there they have a grilled salmon that is just brushed with olive oil and sprinkled with salt and pepper. Then once its on the plate you put a horseradish dill butter on top. This one is simply equal parts softened butter and horseradish with some chopped shallots, dill and a little more salt and pepper. I don't have dill around the house so I'm doing this tonight with tarragon which I have growing fresh in my garden. You mix all the butter ingredients together, form into a cylinder with parchment then let chill in the refreigerator. Then all you do is slice off a piece and put it on your grilled salmon. This is on the menu for tonight so I haven't actually tried it yet and certainly it would work just as well I'm sure with a pan seared salmon as with a grilled one.

                  2. daily_unadventures Jun 7, 2007 06:13 PM

                    I would say no on the flour and instead lots of salt and pepper and some butter if you want it simple, or start adding a glaze or herbs if you want to get more complicated. As for timing just remember that 8minutes per inch is the magic number (as a max). I would watch it carefully since it is your first time and check it around 6 minutes. I have made broiled salmon lots and it is lovely.

                    Katerina
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