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Jack Daniels Refrigerated? Room Temp.?

ArikaDawn Jun 4, 2007 02:21 PM

I am hosting someone in my home this evening whose drink of choice is Jack and Coke. I don't drink Jack Daniels, I'm an Absolut girl, but I was wondering if I should chill the Jack. I keep my vodka in the freezer, but that doesn't seem right to me for the Jack. What should I do to get it ready to be mixed?

  1. Sam Fujisaka Jun 4, 2007 02:25 PM

    Jack and Coke? Probably doesn't matter (in more ways than one). But so as not to get deleted, Its probably Jack, chilled coke, and ice. No need to chill the Jack.

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    1. re: Sam Fujisaka
      ArikaDawn Jun 4, 2007 02:29 PM

      Thanks so much. I am not much of a drinker, but did not want to look like a goof tonight if in fact there were a standard way to do it. You're a lifesaver.

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      mojoeater Jun 4, 2007 02:28 PM

      Do not chill any kind of whiskey. Just have the preferred mixer available cold and some ice on hand.

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      1. re: mojoeater
        ArikaDawn Jun 4, 2007 02:37 PM

        So, just to clarify, whiskey is NEVER chilled?

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          mojoeater Jun 4, 2007 02:39 PM

          Not by whiskey drinkers. I suppose someone might chill it if they wanted to mask the flavor some. But then what's the point?

          1. re: mojoeater
            Davwud Jun 4, 2007 03:18 PM

            Never water a persons whiskey either.

            Last weekend at Wayne Gretzky's in TO, Mrs. Sippi ordered scotch and water. It came all in one glass. I commented, "Isn't that nice, they mixed it for you." The waitress said, "Isn't he supposed too??"
            It was one of a long string of mistakes made.

            DT

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              Scottus Jun 6, 2007 02:55 PM

              I don't know how these things are done in Canada, but in the States, a Scotch and water IS a glass of ice, Scotch, water to fill. Scotch on the rocks or neat with a water back is another matter altogether.

              1. re: Scottus
                Davwud Jun 6, 2007 03:00 PM

                It's proper etiquette, you "Never water another man's whiskey."
                You should be served your scotch on the rocks (If wanted) and a glass of water on the side. The drinker decides how much water goes in.

                DT

                1. re: Davwud
                  JMF Jun 6, 2007 03:56 PM

                  If someone orders a whiskey and water it is not expected to serve them water on the side. They are asking for the water to be added.

                  I don't know where you got that bit about etiquette from, except in the South in peoples homes I have seen a bottle of water so folks could water the drink down themselves. Never seen this in any bar.

                  If you want the water on the side to mix it yourself you have to ask for a whiskey on the rocks with a side of water.

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                    soupkitten Jun 6, 2007 04:47 PM

                    yes a "scotch and water" is a mixed drink like a "jack and coke."

                    in the same way that someone wanting a shot of jack daniels and a glass of coke as a chaser would order "shot of jack daniels with a coke back, please," your dc should have ordered "dalmore 12 neat, with a glass of water, please" or "cutty's on the rocks, with a water on the side, please"

                    ordering a "scotch and water" or a "jack and coke," "rum and coke," "t n t," or "7/7" will result in the bt serving the drink mixed with ice in a glass because that is how you ordered the drink.

                    1. re: soupkitten
                      Davwud Jun 6, 2007 06:59 PM

                      It's part of an old Irish proverb. "Never steal another man's wife and never water another man's whiskey."

                      Serving whiskey over ice mutes the flavour and watering it opens it up. Of course, if you read my profile, you'll see that I like GJ on ice.
                      But hey, it's my drink and that's how I like it.

                      DT

                      1. re: Davwud
                        Amuse Bouches Jun 7, 2007 10:51 AM

                        I would say serving whisky on the rocks can mute the flavor, but the best way to enjoy a good whisky (Scotch, no e) is with a single ice cube -- it brings it to ideal drinking temperature and slowly melts, allowing the drinker to enjoy the full range of how the water opens up the flavor.

                        But a scotch and water is a mixed drink in my book -- like a scotch and soda.

                    2. re: Davwud
                      byrd Jun 7, 2007 10:32 AM

                      as with other mixed drinks, that went out the window with the use of the soda gun instead of the traditional six ounce bottles, also marble sized cubes instead of large cubes of ice.

                  2. re: Davwud
                    JK Grence the Cosmic Jester Jun 7, 2007 07:04 AM

                    Don't go blaming the bartender for your wife ordering incorrectly. Just the same as I would expect the bartender to mix a gin AND tonic, or a rum AND coke, I would also expect the bartender to mix a whiskey AND water. You notice the keyword there? If you want the mixer to come separately, you order it as "spirit with mixer back", in your case a whiskey with water back. It may be proper etiquette to do a water back, but we're just in the business of giving you what you request.

                    1. re: JK Grence the Cosmic Jester
                      TroyTempest Jun 7, 2007 10:04 AM

                      When I was in the UK recently, in 3 different places I ordered a Gin and Tonic, and was served a glass of Gin on the Rocks (very few rocks, I might add, but I knew that going in) and a small bottle of tonic on the side. So, I'll concede that it might be something particular to the British Empire, but in the U.S., your wife got what she ordered.

                      1. re: TroyTempest
                        Davwud Jun 8, 2007 04:04 AM

                        Except that we were in Canada. Part of the British Empire.

                        Anyway, when she ordered in the bar, they put them in separate glasses. When we were seated for dinner it came premixed.

                        DT

                  3. re: mojoeater
                    JMF Jun 7, 2007 01:29 PM

                    It's not just whiskey, but all spirits that shouldn't be chilled. Chilling spirits dampens a lot of the flavor. The only exception is vodka and aquavit when they are going to be drunk straight as shots with food.

                    Some people keep vodka in the freezer but it is a waste of freezer space. For mixed drinks and cocktails you want the spirit to be at room temperature so that it will melt the ice and water down the drink. Most cocktail recipes take into account the 20-30% water from melted ice as a part of the recipe.

                    If you use all cold ingredients the drink will be too strong and the recipe will be off.

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                      mojoeater Jun 7, 2007 01:31 PM

                      I like to chill my vodka so I don't have to use ice with my Bloody Mary. Too hard to drink that way, since I don't keep straws at home.

                      1. re: mojoeater
                        JMF Jun 7, 2007 06:19 PM

                        Isn't it thick that way?

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                          mojoeater Jun 8, 2007 09:38 AM

                          The ice doesn't melt much in a Bloody, so it's thick either way. At least without ice you can pick up your drink and not have something hit you on the nose when you take a sip.

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                REDJIM Jun 4, 2007 02:31 PM

                I'm with Sam on this one. There's no one on planet Earth that can recognize the nuances of a Bourbon or Tennessee whisky when Coke is splashed into the drink. So, chill the coke, let the Jack sit out on your bar.

                1. KaimukiMan Jun 4, 2007 02:50 PM

                  right. whiskey is never chilled for any normal situation. I drink Jack Daniels with club soda (doesn't mask the taste-as much) Your guest's drink should be served on the rocks, with the coke chilled if possible so you don't melt the ice and dilute the drink.

                  1. Veggo Jun 7, 2007 07:25 AM

                    Be patient and wait for a real man. Jack is served room temperature, with ice. Then, you swirl it a bit and it makes its own gravy.

                    1. ted Jun 8, 2007 07:09 PM

                      I don't know about all this room temperature stuff- there's a barbecue team that invented the "clonesicle" (think the team is the Smoking Clones). It's basically a bottle of some Jack variant frozen into a milk jug with the top cut off. Those guys (and gals) stay up all night cooking meat; don't know how much more "real man" you get than that. ;-)

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