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Gabbiano vs Il Mulino

netmover May 31, 2007 04:05 PM

The family sold the rights to the Il Mulino name (Sunny Isles) and are now opening a new place down here called Gabbiano located at One Biscayne. Nice spot right on the bay. It'll be a while before they actually open, but I thought you'd like to know...especially you TP.

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    tpigeon May 31, 2007 04:15 PM

    I tried Il Mulino up in sunny isles once and was underwhelmed. Hopefully this new place will be better. Thanks.

    1. Bob Mervine Jun 1, 2007 02:08 AM

      Is this a different Il Mulino than the chain that started in NY and recently opened at WDW Swan? If not, did the family sell the rights to all of their restaurants?


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      1. re: Bob Mervine
        tpigeon Jun 1, 2007 09:03 AM

        Because he mentioned Sunny Isles, I have to believe that he was indeed talking about the chain. Netmover?

        1. re: tpigeon
          netmover Jun 2, 2007 10:13 PM

          That's my understanding. They sold the rights to the name, I am not sure whether the NYC store went with it, but it stands to reason. They are in quite a few cities already with others in the works.

          1. re: netmover
            The Chowfather AKA sobe Jan 4, 2008 02:32 AM

            Looks like Il Gabbiano is open. Not much information on their website. Net, looks like you were right. It is owned by Gino and Fernando Masci from Il Mulino in NY.

            However, the Il Mulino site doesn't mention this location/name


            Must be next to Prime Blue Grille@One Miami

            **the amount of new restaurants in Miami is Insane**

            1. re: The Chowfather AKA sobe
              netmover Jan 5, 2008 08:24 AM

              It's on the bay in the back of the same building as Prime Blue. Sexy views and space for that matter...now can their Miami crew cook is the question?

              Il Mulino site doesn't mention it, because it's not affiliated with the new ownership.

              I look forward to hearing how it is! Someone out there must have been by now, no?

              1. re: netmover
                kdrossi13 Jan 12, 2008 03:31 PM

                I actually live in the building that II Gabbiano is in. I had dinner there on thursday night for the first time.

                First let me say that the service is 5 stars. There are about 3-4 servers at your beckon call. Awesome. We sat, immediately they brought over bruschetta and a huge block of delicious, straight from Italy parmesan cheese. They cut out a piece out of the block for you.

                Then came sauteed or fried garlic seasoned zucchini. Oh..and bread too! This was all before we ordered. We shared a baked shrimp scampi appetizer (3 jumbo shrimp..excellent).. My boyfriend had the scampi frutti di mare risotto which was the best ive ever had (and Im Italian). I had a split..1/2 seafood ravioli and 1/2 porcini ravioli. This was very heavy, but delicious.

                I highly recommend this restaurant. The service is excellent, the views are amazing (we sat outside facing Biscayne Bay) and the food is wonderful..Great selection on the menu. Veal, Fish, a bunch of risottos to choose from, pasta, meat, etc. Great wine selection too.

                1. re: kdrossi13
                  sanman Jan 12, 2008 04:21 PM

                  Il Gabbiano is amazing!! They provide so many goodies before you order you almost can't eat anymore. Until you see the menu and erverything sounds delicious....and it is. They were the original owners of Il Mulino in New York. Then sold the restaurant and name. They had nothing to do with Il Mulino in Sunny Isles. Also, Gino and Fernando (two of the owners) are actually on the floor and in the kitchen cooking, the way it should be. Everything is made fresh daily. Il Gabbiano is definitely worth checking out.

                  1. re: sanman
                    The Chowfather AKA sobe Jan 12, 2008 05:22 PM

                    "They were the original owners of Il Mulino in New York. Then sold the restaurant and name. They had nothing to do with Il Mulino in Sunny Isles. Also, Gino and Fernando (two of the owners) are actually on the floor and in the kitchen cooking, the way it should be"

                    GOOD INFO

                    1. re: The Chowfather AKA sobe
                      tpigeon Jan 12, 2008 06:02 PM

                      FYI to all, this sounds exactly like il mulino in NY where I was once a frequent customer of. Maybe it was pulled off this time...this place is solidly on my radar now...

                    2. re: sanman
                      mikek Jan 12, 2008 09:11 PM

                      This place is definitely moving on the to-do list. How is the wine selection/prices there? Do they have anything along the lines of a tasting menu or daily specials outside of the menu on their website? Thanks, can't wait to try it out.

        2. netmover Jan 12, 2008 05:31 PM

          How's the prices?

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          1. re: netmover
            tpigeon Jan 12, 2008 06:03 PM

            If it is priced like Il mulino ny, which I have to believe it is, it is solidly in the expensive category. Like others have said, though you can get full before the first dish you order comes...

            1. re: tpigeon
              eatnbmerry Jan 12, 2008 07:10 PM

              Well related or not I heard the sunny isles place had $30 plus pasta? And no matter what this ain't the city. So hopefiully their prices will be more in line with the market, that is if they want to last.

              1. re: eatnbmerry
                netmover Jan 13, 2008 05:01 AM

                I have not "heard" anything about Il Mulino Miami...and that my friend is never a good sign!

                Now that Il Gabbiano is open we are already starting to hear great things come out of there.

                I have no idea since I have never been to either, but it would appear that Il Mulino's days may be numbered? Has anyone been? Is it busy?

                And you're right a $30 pasta is a flippin' stretch to say the least! Although, I do remember glady plunking down $25 way back when for Osteria's Cartoccio Frutti di Mare and I must say it was scrumptous. So maybe the days of 30 dollar pasta are upon us...bahumbug!

                1. re: netmover
                  tpigeon Jan 13, 2008 05:59 AM

                  Osteria del teatro's lobster pasta dish is $42 and I have to say it is awesome.

                  1. re: tpigeon
                    eatnbmerry Jan 13, 2008 07:03 AM

                    No doubt when you include lobster or an assortment of shellfish, etc its perfectly acceptable to pay more like you would for arroz con mariscos as well. I am referring to your basic fettucini alfredo, linguini with clams (hardly lobster or assorted frutti).

                    In the end, while SoBe may be able to jack up prices to "trapped" tourist for below one star (even hesitate to mention that as a starting point, but we do need a reference and zero stars would only apply if using number line and can go negative too!) evidence the Prime 112's, China Grill, etc., the rest of our city is much more value for flavor attentive.

                    Thats why I root for downtown, DD, and Biscayne corrider cause we have a chance to get some above average (still don't think one star necessarily but thats another day story) cuisine at a more reasonable price point. I'm just hoping (and in a sense wanting to be proved wrong) that more non-chow types will be willing to make the trip from the Gables/Pinecrest/Palmetto Bay south and from Aventura/Miami Lakes north.

                    Until that happens, to quote Gertrude Stein when she visited Oakland , "there is no there there".

                    1. re: eatnbmerry
                      tpigeon Jan 13, 2008 08:41 AM

                      Totally agree with your comments. I just mentioned that pasta at osteria because it is a must try. Lots of people will balk at the price but it is totally worth it. I am rooting for miami food too :).

                      1. re: tpigeon
                        eatnbmerry Jan 13, 2008 08:51 AM

                        BM might not pay for it since its more than $30 :). But I would since Osteria has been serving honest solid food for a long while now (almost ancient by SoBe standards)!

                        1. re: eatnbmerry
                          kdrossi13 Jan 18, 2008 08:07 PM

                          You can view ll Gabbiano's menu at Zagat.com. However, I believe you have to have a membership. I think the pasta dishes are very reasonable... $20+ range..its the steaks/fish that are more expensive..Great wine selection too..

                          1. re: kdrossi13
                            kdrossi13 Jan 18, 2008 08:10 PM

                            www.ilgabbianomiami.com. You can view their menu there.

                            1. re: kdrossi13
                              eatnbmerry Jan 18, 2008 09:02 PM

                              Ty for the link.

                              I guess reasonable is a relative word. I would say they are more towards the high side of spectrum no? But, nevertheles, I like to say "value for flavor". Meaning if higher prices than expect higher taste sensation to justify. If Il Gabbiano's delivers on that equation, then they would be considered fairly valued or to use your term reasonably valued.

                              1. re: eatnbmerry
                                tpigeon Jan 19, 2008 05:23 AM

                                I am going to try this place very soon. It seems awfully similar to IM NY -- except they have burratta too :). IM never had it when I went. That's a plus in my book already :). I love that stuff.

                                1. re: tpigeon
                                  eatnbmerry Jan 19, 2008 10:37 PM

                                  I will eagerly anticipate your report! If you conclude that the NY flavor is there, than I will gladly drop my hard earned value there too! Pulling for it to be so. This side of town can use some top shelf Italiano for sure.

                                  1. re: tpigeon
                                    The Chowfather AKA sobe Jan 30, 2008 03:14 PM


                                    1. re: The Chowfather AKA sobe
                                      mialebven Jan 30, 2008 05:44 PM

                                      Wow, what a glowing review for Il Gabbiano! Did Miami just struck Italian gold?

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