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hey all - i forgot to post this last night, but the family is heading into long island tomorrow (friday) morning to check out some wineries and eat some food -- except we have no idea where to go. irresponsible. so -- anyone have any recommendations on any wineries to visit? i'm assuming the wines aren't that great (i hope i'm suprised), so some "destination" (see: pretty) wineries would be preferred. but who's got the best wines?

also, whats a good lunch and potential dinner spot?

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  1. Not an expert. But Schneider makes a very good cabernet Franc and Osprey's Dominion also makes some good wines. You may want to post this on the wine board or tristate board, though.

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    1. re: jdf

      Could be wrong but I think Schneider is closed up.

      1. re: laylag

        Really??! When did they close? So disappointed to hear that...

        1. re: jdream

          Can't be. I called them yesterday in serach of their Cabernet Franc and spoke with them.

          1. re: jdf

            Oh, good news!

    2. You may be (hopefully) pleasantly surprised. Long Island actually is a close match to Bordeaux in terms of climate and soils so Bordeaux wines like Merlot and Cabernet Franc do well. Of course they won't compare to the jammy ripe California wines, if that's what you consider good. My suggestion is to follow route 48 from Mattituck and then double back on route 25 sometime after Southold. My favorite was Castello di Borghese, but your mileage may vary.

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      1. re: Astoria Lurker

        Astoria Lurker has it basically right, although I'd do it the other way around: go up 25 and back down on 48, if only because that's the easier way to go from NYC (since the LIE dumps you off pretty much right onto 25). 25 has more wineries - almost too many - and 48 is more rustic.

        Whites are in many ways better than reds at a lot of these wineries, but the red varietals named above, especially the Franc, are catching up. Jamesport is a sentimental favorite of mine, and I like to try to hit some of the smaller producers, like Ackerly Pond, when i go up there. Tastings hover in the $4 range.

        Once you get past the outlet mall and big box store hell of suburban Riverhead there are some charming towns up there. But the restaurant scene really hasn't grown with the wineries. I have had a couple of really nice meals at the Country Kitchen in Jamesport (which is rather upscale despite the name) though, which also serves a lot of local wines. Otherwise, you really have to go all the way to Greenport to find more serious dining options.

        Here is a map of most of the wineries:
        http://www.liwines.com/default.ihtml?...

        1. re: Woodside Al

          we are from the island and just like to drive along 25 and sample the wines along the way. at the very end of 25 is a restaurant called the seafood barge. it's been there for ever and the food is pretty nice.

          1. re: Woodside Al

            "Suburban Riverhead": I guess you're talking about Rte 58, if you take the dump off at the end of the LIE. It's only been like that for the last 4 or 5 years: before all the day trippers invaded it was a nice wooded road, but half the world seems to live to shop nowadays, so it's a draw for non-foodies.
            You should start on Rte 25 the exit before and drive through Riverhead proper, an old fashioned town where all the real stores and restaurants reside. Or if it offends your aesthetic taste to see big box stores, why wouldn't you take Sound Ave. By the way, there are quite a few excellent restaurants between there and Greenport, which have all been mentioned many, many times here.

        2. best wines are at Lieb, Lenz and Bedell
          http://www.northfork.org/wineries.html

          eat lunch at the Modern Snack Bar or the Farmer's Bar -or- dinner at Cliff's Elbow Room or the Bayview Inn

          go to Junda's and buy as much strudel as you can

          if you like goat cheese head to Catapanos for some of the best

          and lastly, for the best greens and asian dressings around head to Sang Lee Farms

          have fun!

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          1. re: jenniebnyc

            I second Jennieb's recommendations for wineries. Lieb is our favorite and the others she mentioned are very good too. Avoid most of the "big" names. Catapanos has wonderful fresh goat cheese.

            I'd like to add other Sound Ave stops: Briermere for pies, if you want seafood The Lobster Roll Northside (their south shore and original outpost in the Hamptons is known as "Lunch"), also Harbes Farm for fresh roasted corn (it's a little early in the season though) and fresh lemonade.

            Also, if you're willing to go all the way out to Greenport, my fave restaurant there for dinner is The Frisky Oyster. Also, lunch outside on the terrace at Hellenic Snack Bar in Marion.

            Haven't been to Junda's but must try soon.

          2. Pindar gives a nice free tasting of quite a few good wines. We like Palmer, for atmosphere in their tasting room, but they do charge for tastes. We like to bring a picnic lunch to either Palmer, Raphael or Martha Clara (good tastings). If you are out around Cutchogue, Farmer Bar, previously mentioned , has great barbecue.
            ~Fred19

            1. Roanoake is hands down the best.
              Shinn is next
              Old Field is small but good.
              Jamesport is great.
              Bedell and Rapheal are good, too.
              Lieb is great on the weekend.
              If you don't have reservations you might not get in, but give The Fifth Season, Nortfork Table & Inn, or Jeddiah Hawkins a shot for dinner. You'll lay out some cash, but it is completely worth it!!
              Enjoy.

              1. I was just there last week. Our favorites were Lenz and Shinn. Raphael had some very nice wine and Osprey's Dominion's wines were also coming along nicely. Beautiful tasting room, too. I have to say I though Bedell and it's sister winery had unimpressive wines. But, wine is a personal thing and not everyone likes the same juice.

                For dinner we went to the Fifth Season. Absolutely amazing. Local ingredients, weekly menu changes, not a ton of seats. A food philosophy we just loved and will pay for...I had the most beautiful peice of black bass with orange zest and pureed sunchoke. My man had a Bershire double cut pork chop with cherries. Both dishes were (not to mention our apps) were phenomenal. Not sure if there is much regarding a kids menu, though.

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                1. re: dianna56

                  I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed Fifth Season. We're going there tomorrow, and I'm really looking forward to it.

                2. We just came back from a weekend on the North Fork. We're red wine drinkers, and our favorite wineries were Pellegrini, Lieb and Shinn. The nicest tasting we had was at Pellegrini, where they spent a good deal of time talking to us about the wine and giving us tastes of some unusual wines.

                  We had lunch at Jamesport Country Kitchen. We both had salads. Decent, but not all that interesting. Dinner at The Fifth Season was great. The place had a nice vibe-- busy and small, but you didn't feel smashed in by the table next to you. The food was fantastic. My husband started out with littlenecks in a light broth with pancetta and tomatoes. I had Berkshire pork spring rolls that just melted in my mouth.We both had the scallops for a main course-- very sweet and delicious. We split some freshly made sorbet for dessert. Everything was well prepared with the freshest ingredients, most of them local. The wine list was all LI, and had a good range of selection and prices. I wish there was a restaurant like this in Westchester. I'd be there all the time.