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May 30, 2007 01:06 AM

taking HUGE step, REALLY need help from fellow hounders...

ok, so i've been a vegetarian for 21 years. the mere thought of eating anything that lives on land has turned my stomach since i was 14 years old. even the smell of any sort of meat being cooked [poultry, pork, beef, you name it] always makes me gag.

anyway, about 10 days ago i had to switch to a gluten-free diet for health reasons. doc told me he had a feeling that as my body adjusted to the new regimen and began to heal, i'd actually WANT to start eating meat again...i told him he was suffering from delusions of grandeur.

well, it looks like i just may have to eat my words.


i woke up yesterday craving red meat like nobody's business. i thought it was just some weird subconscious reaction to what he had said [i.e. the power of suggestion], and suspected it might go away as quickly as it came.

not quite.

it's ESCALATING as the days pass, and i'm now obsessed with satisfying this craving.

but if i'm actually going to do this, i want to do it right. i know getting into 'cut' anytime in the next month is pretty much out of the question [and i don't necessarily want to drop that kind of money on it just yet...i'm still afraid one bite might send me running for a bucket].

so where to go? what to order? i think i'm specifically craving a burger, which sucks, because with this gluten-free situation i can't eat the bun! would it still be worth it? do i go to the counter & order one in a bowl? get the famed father's office burger & take it off the bun? try the california burger @ houston's that everyone raves about? the kobe-style burger @ boa?

or am i better off just getting a steak? if so, which cut? ribeye? new york strip? filet? and where?


thanks :)

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      1. Do yourself a favour and go easy on it -- your stomach will rebel if you jam fourteen ounces of beef down it after 21 years without. Go to a yakiniku place (I live in OC, so my recommendation would be Tsuruhashi in Fountain Valley, but other Hounds can chime in with LA recommendations) and get some wagyu beef -- the portion is quite small but you will leave feeling very, very sated -- after probably 4-6 ounces of wagyu beef I was full through breakfast the next day.

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        1. re: Das Ubergeek

          lol i'll definitely 2nd yakiniku. haven't been to tsuruhashi, but if you're anwhere near west LA, hit up manpuku. exquisite beef tongue shio (hope the thought of that doesn't put you off) and yea i think the smaller, bite-sized portions of deliciousness might be less of a shock to the system.

          1. re: Das Ubergeek

            I agree with going slow at first. Maybe a steak salad with a lean cut of steak -- flank steak. I would ask for med to well done so that it is not red. I had it at Park Avve. in Stanton. Now it may not be on their menu but when I ask they do make it. I also had it at Auntie Em’s Kitchen. Still, I would check with the Dr. If that works without a problem then comes a pound of bacon at home.

            Park Ave.
            11200 Beach Blvd.
            Stanton, CA

            Auntie Em’s Kitchen
            4616 Eagle Rock Blvd.
            Los Angeles, CA 90041
            (323) 255-0800
            mon-fri 8am to 7pm & sat-sun 8am to 4pm

          2. It seems like it would be reasonable to take things slowly -- the body would probably freak out if it had to digest a big NY strip steak. Hell, I'm a meat-eater and my body doesn't always take too kindly to a huge steak, given how rarely I eat one.

            So, given that, what about going for shabu shabu? You could go to Sawtelle and eat at Mizu 212. You'll get vegetables and meat (and no gluten). The beef is high quality, as are the vegetables. And you're in control of the cooking, so you can eat as much or as little as you like.

            1. Well, I agree with everyone's suggestions to take it slow. I went through a few year period where I didn't eat any red meat, back in the 1980's, but my first meat cravings were for pork, specifically carnitas. Anyway, as someone who's been having to low carb since mid-April, for medical reasons, I can highly recommend the burger at Bandera (Wilshire/Barrington) without the bun. It's extremely satisfying, but it might be too rich for your first foray.